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Should WMD's exist, and do you support them?

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Should Weapons of Mass Destruction exist, and are you for or against the use of them?

I believe they should exist, and I support their use.
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20%
I believe they should exist, but only as a deterrent, and not as a combat strategy.
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50%
I do not believe they should exist.
29
29%
Other (Post Below)
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2%
 
Total votes : 101

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The Federation of Kendor
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Postby The Federation of Kendor » Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:57 am

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Postby Uxupox » Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:57 am

Purpelia wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:It probably would have been at least 48 but not 58

More like 46 at the latest. Both the allies and Soviets were preparing land invasions which would have gone off by that point. And the bulk of Japans best troops had been smashed to bits in China by the Soviet army.


Soviets had no capability to conduct an naval amphibian invasion of mainland Japan whatsoever. The allied landings were scheduled for oct-november of 1945 in which there was a massive typhoon raging at this period of time. The order of battle for the allied troops were an initial 180,000 men while the Japanese had 160,000 in the area of Kyuushu. The Japanese had thousands of kamikaze planes ready for that initial landing phase. Heck today we know that the Japanese battle plans encompassed hundred of kamikaze attacks by the hour.

All in all the use of nuclear weapons for this instance was justified to save million of lives that would otherwise be lost.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:36 am

Uxupox wrote:
Purpelia wrote:More like 46 at the latest. Both the allies and Soviets were preparing land invasions which would have gone off by that point. And the bulk of Japans best troops had been smashed to bits in China by the Soviet army.


Soviets had no capability to conduct an naval amphibian invasion of mainland Japan whatsoever. The allied landings were scheduled for oct-november of 1945 in which there was a massive typhoon raging at this period of time. The order of battle for the allied troops were an initial 180,000 men while the Japanese had 160,000 in the area of Kyuushu. The Japanese had thousands of kamikaze planes ready for that initial landing phase. Heck today we know that the Japanese battle plans encompassed hundred of kamikaze attacks by the hour.

All in all the use of nuclear weapons for this instance was justified to save million of lives that would otherwise be lost.

There's no doubting that the use of nukes saved millions of lives but the war wasn't going to last past 1948 if we didn't. The Korean War would never have occurred as all of Korea would most likely be communist.
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Postby Suicune » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:57 am

Weapons specifically designed to kill as many people as possible and that have harmful effects on the environment. Hmm tough choice... :unsure:
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Postby Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft » Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:58 am

Nuclear weapons, although having the potential for killing billions, have stopped/prevented many wars due to mutually assured destruction (i.e. India vs Pakistan in the 1940s-50s), so I do support a nuclear deterrent. Chemical weapons just cause unnecessary damage (cough cough killing innocent Syrian children cough cough), and biological weapons are just asking for a global pandemic and are just evil. At least, that's my opinion.

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