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N. Korea Disscusion Thread

Postby The United Artherian Federation » Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:05 pm

So, NS, following a crazy couple of months with threats from both the Norks and Trump, here is a Disscusion thread for y'all covering everything Nork related.
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Postby Sovaal » Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:13 pm

What are your thoughts OP?

I wouldn't blame Japan for beefing up their defense force.

Also, just waiting for some city in South Korea or Japan to be nuked.
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Postby The United Artherian Federation » Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:18 pm

I think we (aka U.S, S. Korea, Japan) should just invade N. Korea already. Get it done and overwith. Finish Kim Jong-Un.
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Postby Seangoli » Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:58 pm

The United Artherian Federation wrote:I think we (aka U.S, S. Korea, Japan) should just invade N. Korea already. Get it done and overwith. Finish Kim Jong-Un.


An assault on North Korea would be one of the bloodiest engagements we have ever gotten into, and would create one of the worst humanitarian disasters in the modern era. While we need to do something, and soon, about NK, an invasion would be downright foolish.

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Postby Sovaal » Tue Jul 04, 2017 1:01 pm

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The United Artherian Federation wrote:I think we (aka U.S, S. Korea, Japan) should just invade N. Korea already. Get it done and overwith. Finish Kim Jong-Un.


An assault on North Korea would be one of the bloodiest engagements we have ever gotten into, and would create one of the worst humanitarian disasters in the modern era. While we need to do something, and soon, about NK, an invasion would be downright foolish.

I say we send in counter revolutionaries to over throw Kim Jong.

Of course they'll need supplies and an awesome sound track.
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Postby Seangoli » Tue Jul 04, 2017 1:05 pm

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An assault on North Korea would be one of the bloodiest engagements we have ever gotten into, and would create one of the worst humanitarian disasters in the modern era. While we need to do something, and soon, about NK, an invasion would be downright foolish.

I say we send in counter revolutionaries to over throw Kim Jong.

Of course they'll need supplies and an awesome sound track.


I feel like a west coast invasion from the bay along the peninsula is best. Possibly use North Korea ex-patriots and the like to spear head the invasion, and we'll provide air support.

What to call it though. That's the questions. I hear Koreans like pork, so maybe something to do with that. Call it the Bay of Swine invasion, maybe. Yeah, that sounds good.

I'm sure it will be a smashing success.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jul 04, 2017 1:05 pm

The United Artherian Federation wrote:I think we (aka U.S, S. Korea, Japan) should just invade N. Korea already. Get it done and overwith. Finish Kim Jong-Un.

No no. We wait for NK to attack that way we aren't seen as the agressers
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Postby Sovaal » Tue Jul 04, 2017 1:08 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
The United Artherian Federation wrote:I think we (aka U.S, S. Korea, Japan) should just invade N. Korea already. Get it done and overwith. Finish Kim Jong-Un.

No no. We wait for NK to attack that way we aren't seen as the agressers

Just don't declare war, then we won't be the aggressors.
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Sovaal wrote:I say we send in counter revolutionaries to over throw Kim Jong.

Of course they'll need supplies and an awesome sound track.


I feel like a west coast invasion from the bay along the peninsula is best. Possibly use North Korea ex-patriots and the like to spear head the invasion, and we'll provide air support.

What to call it though. That's the questions. I hear Koreans like pork, so maybe something to do with that. Call it the Bay of Swine invasion, maybe. Yeah, that sounds good.

I'm sure it will be a smashing success.

That's why it needs an awesome sound track. Also, the landing zone would obviously be Mrs. Piggy Cove.
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Postby Geilinor » Tue Jul 04, 2017 1:33 pm

The United Artherian Federation wrote:I think we (aka U.S, S. Korea, Japan) should just invade N. Korea already. Get it done and overwith. Finish Kim Jong-Un.

North Korea could fire their artillery at Seoul and it would be a disaster.
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Postby The East Marches II » Tue Jul 04, 2017 1:36 pm

Geilinor wrote:
The United Artherian Federation wrote:I think we (aka U.S, S. Korea, Japan) should just invade N. Korea already. Get it done and overwith. Finish Kim Jong-Un.

North Korea could fire their artillery at Seoul and it would be a disaster.


It is effective blackmail. We pull the trigger, we have try and hit those positions instead of other things first in North Korea. Even then, there is no way to be sure we got all of them, Seoul will still be in for it.
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Postby The United Artherian Federation » Tue Jul 04, 2017 1:40 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Geilinor wrote:North Korea could fire their artillery at Seoul and it would be a disaster.


It is effective blackmail. We pull the trigger, we have try and hit those positions instead of other things first in North Korea. Even then, there is no way to be sure we got all of them, Seoul will still be in for it.

Yes, but, a Spec-Ops strike on the artillery positions would take care of it.
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Postby Risottia » Tue Jul 04, 2017 1:41 pm

The United Artherian Federation wrote:I think we (aka U.S, S. Korea, Japan) should just invade N. Korea already. Get it done and overwith. Finish Kim Jong-Un.

So scared of a single ICBM?
There might be thousands of reasons why Kimmie the Third should go, but their strategic arsenal isn't one of those. Even Pakistan got more nukes, and it has proven to be way more aggressive and dangerous for its neighbours than NK.
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The United Artherian Federation wrote:I think we (aka U.S, S. Korea, Japan) should just invade N. Korea already. Get it done and overwith. Finish Kim Jong-Un.

So scared of a single ICBM?
There might be thousands of reasons why Kimmie the Third should go, but their strategic arsenal isn't one of those. Even Pakistan got more nukes, and it has proven to be way more aggressive and dangerous for its neighbours than NK.

I'm not worried about a single one. What if they start mass production on that missile?
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Postby The East Marches II » Tue Jul 04, 2017 1:43 pm

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It is effective blackmail. We pull the trigger, we have try and hit those positions instead of other things first in North Korea. Even then, there is no way to be sure we got all of them, Seoul will still be in for it.

Yes, but, a Spec-Ops strike on the artillery positions would take care of it.


No, no it wouldn't. You are talking about a single operation. We don't have the amount of men, material even if we weren't in Syria, Iraq or Afghanistan with SF. Give this article a read, it is very realistic about the chances of Seoul. Read this for a likely response by our forces.
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Postby Risottia » Tue Jul 04, 2017 1:51 pm

The United Artherian Federation wrote:
Risottia wrote:So scared of a single ICBM?
There might be thousands of reasons why Kimmie the Third should go, but their strategic arsenal isn't one of those. Even Pakistan got more nukes, and it has proven to be way more aggressive and dangerous for its neighbours than NK.

I'm not worried about a single one. What if they start mass production on that missile?

How many could NK build? 50? 100? 300, that is more than China? Lol.
Seriously. All they can get is a deterrent, not an actual offensive ability.
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Postby The United Artherian Federation » Tue Jul 04, 2017 1:54 pm

Risottia wrote:
The United Artherian Federation wrote:I'm not worried about a single one. What if they start mass production on that missile?

How many could NK build? 50? 100? 300, that is more than China? Lol.
Seriously. All they can get is a deterrent, not an actual offensive ability.

Exactly, no one has any balls to attack because of the deterrent.
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Fired, as in tested. Okay.
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Postby Wallenburg » Tue Jul 04, 2017 1:58 pm

The United Artherian Federation wrote:I think we (aka U.S, S. Korea, Japan) should just invade N. Korea already. Get it done and overwith. Finish Kim Jong-Un.

I never understood the desire to see South Korea obliterated because of North Korea's actions.
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Postby Sovaal » Tue Jul 04, 2017 1:59 pm

Wallenburg wrote:Fired, as in tested. Okay.

Said fired rocket landed in Japan's water's.
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Wallenburg wrote:
The United Artherian Federation wrote:I think we (aka U.S, S. Korea, Japan) should just invade N. Korea already. Get it done and overwith. Finish Kim Jong-Un.

I never understood the desire to see South Korea obliterated because of North Korea's actions.

You see, nobody took into account the obliteration of South Korea without assuming it could be easily avoided- prior to demanding the fall of the North.
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Postby The Free Californian People » Tue Jul 04, 2017 2:07 pm

Here's what I think will happen. First, NK will hit Guam with either a nuke or just a regular missile. US, SK, and Japan will declare war, but China will not help NK. NK invades SK and strikes Japan with non-nuclear missiles until US arrives. It's similar to the first Korean War, but China does not side with NK. NK might use a another nuke, but that is unlikely. If they do use a nuke, China would side with US, SK, and Japan and NATO might join as well. The Allies would easily defeat NK through land invasion. All NK government officials would be executed and Korea would unify under a democracy with its capital remaining in Seoul. If China sided with the Allies, it might annex land in the northern regions of NK. The weapons possessed by NK would become property of the new Korean government. The combo of the north's military and the south's economy would turn the unified Korea into an Asian powerhouse and maybe a world superpower.

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The Free Californian People wrote:Here's what I think will happen. First, NK will hit Guam with either a nuke or just a regular missile. US, SK, and Japan will declare war, but China will not help NK. NK invades SK and strikes Japan with non-nuclear missiles until US arrives. It's similar to the first Korean War, but China does not side with NK. NK might use a another nuke, but that is unlikely. If they do use a nuke, China would side with US, SK, and Japan and NATO might join as well. The Allies would easily defeat NK through land invasion. All NK government officials would be executed and Korea would unify under a democracy with its capital remaining in Seoul. If China sided with the Allies, it might annex land in the northern regions of NK. The weapons possessed by NK would become property of the new Korean government. The combo of the north's military and the south's economy would turn the unified Korea into an Asian powerhouse and maybe a world superpower.

NATO Would join because I think if one NATO Power goes to war, they all do.
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Postby Sovaal » Tue Jul 04, 2017 2:11 pm

The Free Californian People wrote:Here's what I think will happen. First, NK will hit Guam with either a nuke or just a regular missile. US, SK, and Japan will declare war, but China will not help NK. NK invades SK and strikes Japan with non-nuclear missiles until US arrives. It's similar to the first Korean War, but China does not side with NK. NK might use a another nuke, but that is unlikely. If they do use a nuke, China would side with US, SK, and Japan and NATO might join as well. The Allies would easily defeat NK through land invasion. All NK government officials would be executed and Korea would unify under a democracy with its capital remaining in Seoul. If China sided with the Allies, it might annex land in the northern regions of NK. The weapons possessed by NK would become property of the new Korean government. The combo of the north's military and the south's economy would turn the unified Korea into an Asian powerhouse and maybe a world superpower.

North Korea has trouble getting their damn rockets to pass Japan, they won't be able to hit an island nearly four times that distance away for some time.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jul 04, 2017 2:27 pm

Sovaal wrote:
The Free Californian People wrote:Here's what I think will happen. First, NK will hit Guam with either a nuke or just a regular missile. US, SK, and Japan will declare war, but China will not help NK. NK invades SK and strikes Japan with non-nuclear missiles until US arrives. It's similar to the first Korean War, but China does not side with NK. NK might use a another nuke, but that is unlikely. If they do use a nuke, China would side with US, SK, and Japan and NATO might join as well. The Allies would easily defeat NK through land invasion. All NK government officials would be executed and Korea would unify under a democracy with its capital remaining in Seoul. If China sided with the Allies, it might annex land in the northern regions of NK. The weapons possessed by NK would become property of the new Korean government. The combo of the north's military and the south's economy would turn the unified Korea into an Asian powerhouse and maybe a world superpower.

North Korea has trouble getting their damn rockets to pass Japan, they won't be able to hit an island nearly four times that distance away for some time.

And by the time they can we should have orbital kinetic bombardment in place and NK will be no more with the push of a button
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