Will alt-righters stay alt-right?

[Petrolheadia]

Most members of the alt-right seem to be young people, who might change their worldview in the future.
However, "might" does not mean "will". The alt-right movement could be a passing fad that would be a future shame for the members, but it can also be something people stay aligned with.

So do you think they'll change, or that they would keep their belief?

Personally, I'm under the assumption that most alt-righters will actually stay with more or less their current views, but in a somewhat less memetic and more serious and intellectual form, and these people would make the alt-right something that would stay on the political scene. There would, however, be a noticeable minority that would switch to a more mainstream form of conservatism.

[Frank Zipper]

No, people grow up.

[Cruxa]

I agree. I don't think much will change about the alt-right, except how fucking bombastic they are.

[NewVinlandia]

History is repeating itself. The same thing that happened in the Weimar Republic is happening on a global scale. The worse things get the more radical both sides will get, left will turn more and more to Stalinist-esque communism and the right will turn more to fascism/natsoc. The current younger generation is very disillusioned. They see the poor state of the economy and world today and realize that most of them are likely to end up homeless, poor, or living paycheck to paycheck in a shitty cubicle. In times of hardship people become more polarized and more radical as we are seeing today. The alt-right are very moderate in comparison to what it will inevitably evolve into if current trends continue.

Well... yeah. Kind of nailed it with this.

[Minoa]

…The alt-right are very moderate in comparison to what it will inevitably evolve into if current trends continue.

Moderate? When they are advocating homophobia, racism and white supremacism?

I have a very dim view of the Alt-Right because I am transgender to female.

[Randsbeik]

…The alt-right are very moderate in comparison to what it will inevitably evolve into if current trends continue.

Moderate? When they are advocating homophobia, racism and white supremacism?

I have a very dim view of the Alt-Right because I am transgender to female.

"In comparison"

[Proctopeo]

Certainly some will. I expect many to become moderate conservatives with a distaste for the establishment as time goes on.

[Minoa]

Moderate? When they are advocating homophobia, racism and white supremacism?

I have a very dim view of the Alt-Right because I am transgender to female.

"In comparison"

I think it is a bit too naive in my opinion to call it moderate with the movement’s beliefs.

[Deutsch Mitteleuropa]

Certainly some will. I expect many to become moderate conservatives with a distaste for the establishment as time goes on.

That'd be lovely, but I don't know. I am subscribed on iFunny to some alt-righters and it's quite unnerving: What started with innocent Trump supporting and border control advocacy ended with rampant anti-semitism and calls for a fascist dictatorship.

[Deutsch Mitteleuropa]

I think it is a bit too naive in my opinion to call it moderate with the movement’s beliefs.

You're just more aware of the far-authoritarian wing of the alt-right. There are a lot of alt-righters who are soft-nationalist conservatives who hate open borders. Kind of like me, except I'm also libertarian.

[Nakena]

Certainly some will. I expect many to become moderate conservatives with a distaste for the establishment as time goes on.

Only if they held actually moderates beliefs at their core to begin with. The trend goes currently towards further radicalization.

Certainly some will. I expect many to become moderate conservatives with a distaste for the establishment as time goes on.

That'd be lovely, but I don't know. I am subscribed on iFunny to some alt-righters and it's quite unnerving: What started with innocent Trump supporting and border control advocacy ended with rampant anti-semitism and calls for a fascist dictatorship.

I feel ya.

[The Portland Territory]

"but in a somewhat less memetic and more serious and intellectual form"

I'm already there

[Jello Biafra]

I really hope not.

[Minoa]

I think it is a bit too naive in my opinion to call it moderate with the movement’s beliefs.

You're just more aware of the far-authoritarian wing of the alt-right. There are a lot of alt-righters who are soft-nationalist conservatives who hate open borders. Kind of like me, except I'm also libertarian.

If there is someone that needs to answer for the Alt-Right getting such a bad image for promoting extreme beliefs, it is Richard Spencer and Milo Yiannopoulos.

In any case, health issues mean that I am not the person to give a reliable opinion on whether things are getting better or not.

[Nakena]

I think it is a bit too naive in my opinion to call it moderate with the movement’s beliefs.

You're just more aware of the far-authoritarian wing of the alt-right. There are a lot of alt-righters who are soft-nationalist conservatives who hate open borders. Kind of like me, except I'm also libertarian.

That is by now called the Alt-lite. It stopped being about MAGA and Trump a while ago. Whats left now is racialism and sometimes anti-semitism. But then again, it depends on the group as the Alt-Right is a diverse movement.

However, being against open borders makes one a Nazi and racist regardless in the view of the left.

If there is someone that needs to answer for the Alt-Right getting such a bad image for promoting extreme beliefs, it is Richard Spencer and Milo Yiannopoulos.

In any case, health issues mean that I am not the person to give a reliable opinion on whether things are getting better or not.

The influence of Spencer and Milo on the Alt-Right is overrated.

How so?

[Imperial Esplanade]

The alt-right is, at its' heart, a nativist movement. I wouldn't hold your breath for the more ignorant of them (or of any of us, for that matter) to suddenly become greatly-enlightened either.

[Minoa]

You're just more aware of the far-authoritarian wing of the alt-right. There are a lot of alt-righters who are soft-nationalist conservatives who hate open borders. Kind of like me, except I'm also libertarian.

That is by now called the Alt-lite. It stopped being about MAGA and Trump a while ago. Whats left now is racialism and sometimes anti-semitism. But then again, it depends on the group as the Alt-Right is a diverse movement.

However, being against open borders makes one a Nazi and racist regardless in the view of the left.

If there is someone that needs to answer for the Alt-Right getting such a bad image for promoting extreme beliefs, it is Richard Spencer and Milo Yiannopoulos.

In any case, health issues mean that I am not the person to give a reliable opinion on whether things are getting better or not.

The influence of Spencer and Milo on the Alt-Right is overrated.

How so?

Source: https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate ... tive-right

[Trotskylvania]

Moderate? When they are advocating homophobia, racism and white supremacism?

I have a very dim view of the Alt-Right because I am transgender to female.

"In comparison"

[Nulla Bellum]

To me, the "alt right" is more satire than serious, and as a force to be reckoned with only exists largely in the minds of virtue signalling SJWs that see Nazis everywhere, including their corn flakes.

[Imperial Esplanade]

"In comparison"

Until someone starts to openly advocate for the implementation of labor camps for "undesirables," followed by the genocide of said "undesirables," it is intellectual dishonesty to equate the alt-right to Nazi Germany - through memes or otherwise.

I don't care how you feel about the alt-right, it does not help anyone to start heading down this road of crying wolf. As bad as you think Trump is, there is nothing remotely close to the Holocaust occurring in this country.

[Minoa]

To me, the "alt right" is more satire than serious, and as a force to be reckoned with only exists largely in the minds of virtue signalling SJWs that see Nazis everywhere, including their corn flakes.

SJWs? I can't even cope with protests and rallies, and I am a bit sceptical of Greenpeace.

[Austrasien]

No and yes.

No, not anymore than hippies stayed hippies.

Yes, because the basic personality traits that attract people to the alt-right will not change substantially.

The lasting contribution of the alt-right is that it has brought social and economic conservatism back from the grave. And even in the absence of major breakthroughs the specter of the alt-right will haunt western politics for a long time to come just as Communism haunted the politics of the past generation. Since many "alt right" ideas actually poll very well across western countries when removed from the context of "far right" movements and politicians, in the long run major parties will eventually move rightward on immigration and some other questions; not unlike how Conservative parties in the post-war era eventually reconciled themselves with various welfare programs over the objections of their more principled members.

[Nulla Bellum]

To me, the "alt right" is more satire than serious, and as a force to be reckoned with only exists largely in the minds of virtue signalling SJWs that see Nazis everywhere, including their corn flakes.

SJWs? I can't even cope with protests and rallies, and I am a bit sceptical of Greenpeace.

"Quick everyone denounce someone we've never heard of, before word of him gets out! Hurry, he's over there on that website with no traffic! Here's a link to it! Click on that vile link! Click it and be outraged!"

[Dumb Ideologies]

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Nice meme with a good spicy aftertaste, a few weird undertones in the taste given the quote from a founding figures of the only other secular ideological school that has killed people in comparable numbers to fascism. Still, 7/10 and would meme again.

[Kartofian]

Certainly some will. I expect many to become moderate conservatives with a distaste for the establishment as time goes on.

That'd be lovely, but I don't know. I am subscribed on iFunny to some alt-righters and it's quite unnerving: What started with innocent Trump supporting and border control advocacy ended with rampant anti-semitism and calls for a fascist dictatorship.

May the Lord preserve you. iFunny "political scene" is more cancerous than even Youtube comments; I genuinely have no idea who those people are and why they do it. And yes I agree with your observation that it started rather innocently, but then rapidly devolved into a shitfest. Really makes me wonder how serious those people are.

Now to answer the OP:
I am under the assumption that the alt-right consists primarily of disheartened millennials and edgelord teens, hence the memes. So yes, I think they will change inevitably-- maybe not in terms of opinions, but at least in terms of discourse. The younger generation is deviating a lot from the political mainstream, at least in the West. I cannot begin guess what the potential cause maybe; although I suspect it's the stifling influence of liberalism in the West (not saying that it is inherently bad, but let's admit that liberal democracy has been the ideological status quo ever since the collapse of the Soviet Union) And I think that that led many "liberals" (yes, I am indeed bunching American conservatives and liberals into that one word-- simply due to the fact that the alt-right evolved as a counterculture to both) to becoming "cocky" (for lack of a better word) and secure in the idea that future generations will carry on their torch. Hence the resentment that the alt-right has for liberals. Idk this is how I see the situation.