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Gurori
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Postby Gurori » Tue May 23, 2017 5:24 pm

viewtopic.php?p=31794608#p31794608

New Rnclave wrote:lol


Considering the history I've had with this user, I don't think this is appropriate at all.

I've personally chosen to ignore it, although when I first read it I felt a bit Beerus-y.

(Beerus-y meaning irritated)

EDIT:

While I was getting the link to a thread for another moderation matter, I found this.

viewtopic.php?p=31794632#p31794632

Britanania wrote:
New Rnclave wrote:
Yeah, although Gurori put something in the main moderation thread regarding multiple ICs within one RP, so we may need to watch that.

Wow, what a dick. And yes, I know he can read this because he stalks.


EDIT 2:

viewtopic.php?p=31794679#p31794679

New Rnclave wrote:
Gurori wrote:
And what business might you have here?


What business do you have in DBU? Because we both know you still stalk that thread.

And just watching how this develops. There's nothing wrong with watching what happens in other DBZ threads
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Postby Kyrusia » Tue May 23, 2017 6:00 pm

Addressed.

Beyond that, saying you follow a thread/roleplay - even if it is using slightly crass language - isn't actionable. As for the player posting in your own thread: you're the OP, feel free to explicitly state in the thread you no longer wish them posting there. If they continue after that, you know where to find us.

More generally, yes, your history with another player(s) is not unknown to us. It's why, once again, I will recommend you utilize your Foe List.
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Postby Gurori » Tue May 23, 2017 6:01 pm

Kyrusia wrote:Addressed.

Beyond that, saying you follow a thread/roleplay - even if it is using slightly crass language - isn't actionable. As for the player posting in your own thread: you're the OP, feel free to explicitly state in the thread you no longer wish them posting there. If they continue after that, you know where to find us.

More generally, yes, your history with another player(s) is not unknown to us. It's why, once again, I will recommend you utilize your Foe List.


Alright, thanks.
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Postby Ranoria » Tue May 23, 2017 6:14 pm

Look, I don't know if this is spamming moderation or whatever, but this is constant and, truthfully, spiteful by Gurori. I understand that he and Rnclave, at least, have a history with each other, but it seems blatantly obvious to me that he, he being Gurori, is looking for anything and everything that he can use to make their lives just a little bit worse. I understand that you feel the need to exercise judgement on Britt, and I do thank you for only issuing a warning, but this is getting absurd. Someone who was banned from the thread, and stalks it, is just trying to get back at Rn and Britt in any way he can here. It's childish, it's spiteful.

Beyond that, because of what I've already posted, I don't think that Britt's response was at all uncalled for. It was appropriate, actually, and accurate to the way that Gurori has acted in the past, as well as just recently.

I think that if you are, as you imply, aware of the history here, then you should be giving Gurori a warning, if anything, for posting irrelevant reports in moderation. Moderation shouldn't be somewhere where someone can come and complain about any sort of critique and use it to lash out at their supposed tormentors. Perhaps if there is legitimate concern for bullying or excessive cases of other events, then justice must be enacted, but this stuff about Gurori has grown absolutely obnoxious, to say the least, and if he has nothing better to do than to watch our OOC thread in an attempt to get someone banned or warned, then he should find a new hobby.

That's my two cents.

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(The stuff above this is the same, I'm sure you guys have a record of it or...something. XD)

If you don't mind, what's going on with the archives? Every RP I've been in in the P2TM has archive threads, and suddenly they're being locked for some reason. I don't really understand it at all. It's been a thing for years, and now there's a crackdown going on seemingly out of the blue.
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Postby Kyrusia » Tue May 23, 2017 6:32 pm

Ranoria wrote:Look, I don't know if this is spamming moderation or whatever, but this is constant and, truthfully, spiteful by Gurori. I understand that he and Rnclave, at least, have a history with each other, but it seems blatantly obvious to me that he, he being Gurori, is looking for anything and everything that he can use to make their lives just a little bit worse. I understand that you feel the need to exercise judgement on Britt, and I do thank you for only issuing a warning, but this is getting absurd. Someone who was banned from the thread, and stalks it, is just trying to get back at Rn and Britt in any way he can here. It's childish, it's spiteful.

Beyond that, because of what I've already posted, I don't think that Britt's response was at all uncalled for. It was appropriate, actually, and accurate to the way that Gurori has acted in the past, as well as just recently.

I think that if you are, as you imply, aware of the history here, then you should be giving Gurori a warning, if anything, for posting irrelevant reports in moderation. Moderation shouldn't be somewhere where someone can come and complain about any sort of critique and use it to lash out at their supposed tormentors. Perhaps if there is legitimate concern for bullying or excessive cases of other events, then justice must be enacted, but this stuff about Gurori has grown absolutely obnoxious, to say the least, and if he has nothing better to do than to watch our OOC thread in an attempt to get someone banned or warned, then he should find a new hobby.

That's my two cents.

Whether you dislike a player or not, whether they dislike you or not, if you flame them, that is actionable. Simply because they review a thread doesn't change that. The "legitimate concern" is flaming. Perhaps, whether another player is watching an OOC thread or not, players shouldn't be flaming and otherwise breaking the rules at all? After all, anyone can report rule violations, be they involved in the thread in question or not. We don't consider reporting potentially actionable material irrelevant. One can be critical, even bluntly so, of a player's behavior without devolving to flaming or baiting.

Beyond that, I see no evidence of actual harassment here, just a group of players who would be better off if they gave one another a wide berth.

Edit: Information on archive thread validity.
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Postby Ranoria » Tue May 23, 2017 6:55 pm

Kyrusia wrote:
Ranoria wrote:Look, I don't know if this is spamming moderation or whatever, but this is constant and, truthfully, spiteful by Gurori. I understand that he and Rnclave, at least, have a history with each other, but it seems blatantly obvious to me that he, he being Gurori, is looking for anything and everything that he can use to make their lives just a little bit worse. I understand that you feel the need to exercise judgement on Britt, and I do thank you for only issuing a warning, but this is getting absurd. Someone who was banned from the thread, and stalks it, is just trying to get back at Rn and Britt in any way he can here. It's childish, it's spiteful.

Beyond that, because of what I've already posted, I don't think that Britt's response was at all uncalled for. It was appropriate, actually, and accurate to the way that Gurori has acted in the past, as well as just recently.

I think that if you are, as you imply, aware of the history here, then you should be giving Gurori a warning, if anything, for posting irrelevant reports in moderation. Moderation shouldn't be somewhere where someone can come and complain about any sort of critique and use it to lash out at their supposed tormentors. Perhaps if there is legitimate concern for bullying or excessive cases of other events, then justice must be enacted, but this stuff about Gurori has grown absolutely obnoxious, to say the least, and if he has nothing better to do than to watch our OOC thread in an attempt to get someone banned or warned, then he should find a new hobby.

That's my two cents.

Whether you dislike a player or not, whether they dislike you or not, if you flame them, that is actionable. Simply because they review a thread doesn't change that. The "legitimate concern" is flaming. Perhaps, whether another player is watching an OOC thread or not, players shouldn't be flaming and otherwise breaking the rules at all? After all, anyone can report rule violations, be they involved in the thread in question or not. We don't consider reporting potentially actionable material irrelevant. One can be critical, even bluntly so, of a player's behavior without devolving to flaming or baiting.

Beyond that, I see no evidence of actual harassment here, just a group of players who would be better off if they gave one another a wide berth.

I wouldn't call "What a dick" after his prior actions flaming, but I'm not a mod, so that's not my decision. Hell, none of this is, for that matter, but I'll move on from that.

I still stand by the, albeit hypothetical, case that Gurori is doing this simply to bring punishment down on New Rnclave, Britt, and possibly others if he had the opportunity, and while your post does have some fair points, it does not address that unique aspect of this particular case. I would consider that 'mods as weapons,' or whatever it's called. Again, maybe you don't see it that way, that's fine, you're the mod, I'm not.

If I may.

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=411527&p=31730204#p31730204

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=411476&p=31714602#p31714602
^For the record, you ruled that perfectly imo, both of you, but both of these posts show an absurd obsession with getting people punished if they cross a line that he sets for himself, it's as if he wants to feel loved and invulnerable here by having the mods ensure that not a wayward critique should come under his eyes.

I'm honestly not willing to go into any more of his posts because I, unlike Gurori, apparently, have better things to do. But in the future, I would request that you take his reports, as spammy as they are, a waste of your time, as well as that of the other moderators, for the most part, with a grain of salt.

EDIT #2

I mean come on, he makes excuses combing through the thread and looking for trouble.

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=397020&p=30590743&hilit=If+you%27re+curious+to+why+I+was+looking+around+in+the+thread+in+the+first+place%2C+It+is+because+one+of+my+characters+were+in+a+relationship+with+another+user%27s%2C+so+I+was+just+looking+for+the+other+user+so+I+could+tg+them+telling+them+that+they+have+authority+over+my+character.#p30590743
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