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Sol 2200: The Space Age [Signups & OOC]

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Sol 2200: The Space Age
a faction-based role-play, OOC

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The year is 2200, and the human race now has almost a quarter millennia of spacefaring behind it. Much has happened in this time, since the first man ventured outside of the Earth’s comforting and habitable atmosphere in 1961.

In a quarter millennia of spacefaring, Earth has in many ways changed drastically, and in many other ways not changed at all. A time traveller from 1961 would not recognise the great cities of Earth, now dominated by towering skyscrapers and active spaceports, but they are more or less still the same great cities of 1961. A glance at the world map would show countries of unfamiliar name in unfamiliar borders, but they are still indisputably nation-states. The workplace may have been transformed by automation and artificial intelligence, but the lives of Earth’s eleven billion people are still structured around the necessity of work. New parties stand for new ideologies, but they compete in the same elections in the same capital cities.

The truly drastic changes to humanity, rather, came not on Earth, but in the void of outer space. Where there used to be nothing at all before 1961, at least as far as civilisation was concerned, there are now teeming colonies where billions of people have made their home.

Progress was, at first, painfully slow. After a person stepped on the Moon in 1969, it was another fifty-seven years before a person stepped on Mars, and another twenty-one before the NASA founded the first permanently populated Moon base. As of 2050, with almost a century of spacefaring behind it, human civilisation still only had a handful of people who called space their home - a dozen on the Moon and another dozen in Earth orbit. But it was a start. They may have been only a couple dozen, but whereas earlier travellers viewed space simply as an unknown to explore, to these first scientists and engineers, space was a residence and a workplace.

Once the first foothold was down, the rest came easily. The dozen scientists and engineers on the moon base became hundreds, and then thousands. The research base slowly adopted the characteristics of a town. The canteen was replaced with restaurants, the dormitory was replaced with apartments, and at some point it just became easier to build a school on the Moon rather than keep sending children down to Earth. The United States’ fledging colony on the Moon soon found itself with competitors, as myriads of sponsors both public and private built their own colonies. So began the second space race.

The second space race was driven, fundamentally, by growth. Rapid technological advancement fuelled stunning global economic growth. Sometime in the mid-21st century, world economic output stopped being measured in trillions of dollars and started being measured in quadrillions of dollars. Combined with decreasing costs from economies of scale, this meant that space travel - and colonisation - was just so much more affordable even to the less developed nations of the globe.

When corporations and nations alike were sending billions of dollars’ worth of equipment up into space for research and, increasingly, mining, it made sense to send a few engineers up there to made sure the equipment didn’t break down. If there was going to be life support up there, why not send some tourists as well? Then the presence of rich engineers and tourists justified supplying entertainment and comforts, which then meant chefs and maintenance staff. Once you have hundreds of people in space on a regular basis, it made economic sense to start making stuff in space instead of paying a thousand dollars for every brick, solar panel, and watermelon from Earth. Production implies industrial workers, which then have their own needs and desires. Through this convoluted process and many others like it, the first true colonies in space were born.

Increasingly, Mars became a centre of industry. Cheap access to abundant mineral resources, a total lack of environmental regulation, and virtually infinite building space all encouraged the development of light and heavy industry on this red planet. Mars grew increasingly less dependent on Earth and, in the twenty-second century, several of the larger Martian colonies campaigned for and received independence.

Now, a century and a half after the founding of the first lunar base, neither Luna nor Mars are frontier worlds. Luna, with some seven hundred million people, is no longer a simple research platform while Mars, with a population of almost two billion people, is humanity’s second most populous world. The industrial strength of the independent Martian colonies have allowed these colonies to establish powerful militaries which they are increasingly using to assert their own position against that of Earth. Co-operation is extensive among Martian colonies, in stark contrast to Earth’s squabbling and war-torn nations.

Despite that, the early frontier years have left their mark on Lunar and Martian cultures. The earliest colonies built with the most primitive technology were fragile in a way that cities on Earth was not. If a person on Earth noticed a leaking water pipe and refused to do anything about it, it would cost the city some water. If a person on an early Lunar Base noticed a leaking water pipe and refused to do anything about it, potentially the whole colony could die. Space in the early days demanded the absolute co-operation of absolutely everybody in a way that Earth did not and as a result, even after these worlds stopped being frontier worlds, conformity and collectivism are still key aspects of culture on Luna and Mars.

A powerful twist on this colonisation of space arose from the invention and development of the nano-factory, the first of which was released in 2098. A refinery, chemical processing plant, and 3-D printer all in one, the nano-factory made up in versatility and compactness what it lacked in material and energy efficiency. Although the nano-factory did not seriously affect industry in the populous core worlds of Earth, Luna, and Mars due to its poor efficiency, in the frontier, it revolutionised everything. Suddenly, tiny colonies of just a few thousand or even a few hundred people found themselves capable of satisfying their own needs instead of importing everything from Earth.

One effect of the nano-factory was a powerful push of population away from Earth. Religious sects, conspiracy theorists, and any other group of people that wanted to isolate themselves from society now could. All it took was a nano-factory or two, which were getting steady cheaper every year, and an unclaimed asteroid to call their new home, of which there were plenty. National and corporate interests, which so far dominated outer space, suddenly found themselves joined by all sorts of other settlers. It was this second wave of settlement that pushed the frontier from Mercury and Venus, which now as of 2200 boast a population of three hundred fifty million and one hundred fifty million respectively, into the Asteroid Belt and the Outer System.

Another effect of the nano-factory was the rise of piracy. Colonies sponsored by nations or corporations tended to have powerful security forces, courtesy of those very same nations and corporations. But the second wave of colonists, coming with little support from Earth, had to defend themselves. Easy targets, in short, for enterprising groups of criminals. At the same time, the nano-factory made it easier for groups of pirates to maintain their own life support and ship without having to set foot at a spaceport.

Although the regular security of the larger worlds and, to some extent, Ceres was able to keep their piracy problem somewhat contained, the vast expanse of the asteroid belt, which was impossible to patrol properly, became a haven for these criminals. When the population density was on the order of one suspicious household every billion cubic kilometres and the nearest police station a week’s travel away, there could be no law except what is enforced with a pulse rifle. Here, pirate clans grew to the point of threatening even the best defended colonies of the most powerful nations in the Asteroid Belt. Some clans even adopted leadership structures as well defined as that of regular governments, at which point they ran into the same problem of trying to hold their own clan together. The Asteroid Belt’s estimated six hundred millions are divided into two: those who live in fear of pirates, and those who are pirates.

The United Nations, which remains a relatively ineffective prestige organisation that it always was, has repeatedly stressed the need to restore peace and stability into the Asteroid Belt, but nobody has volunteered for this task. Everyone is keenly aware that the expense of trying to police a region this large would bankrupt even the strongest economies.

A final effect of the nano-factory was the rise of independence movements everywhere. When colonies were not dependent on Earth for all of their necessities, suddenly they found arguments in favour of severing their ties with Earth much more convincing.

By and large, Earth found itself almost unable to deal with this large wave of independence movements. Much of Earth’s efforts were tied in environmental restoration, with nations struggling to cope with and reverse the environmental effects of several centuries of industrial pollution. In addition, the development of the shield-deflector presented a powerful defence against nuclear missiles and kinetic weapons. The resulting end to the principle of mutually assured destruction served to spark a series of effectively pointless little wars across Earth, which demanded the immediate and full attention of Earth’s militaries.

The colonies of Mars, with its powerful militaries, even became rivals of Earth nations and corporations. On Mercury, powerful corporate interests encouraged local civil leaders to declare independence from Earth, slowly turning Mercury into the most free - and also the most unequal - economy on the Solar System. Independence came also for the cloud cities of Venus and some of the more stable colonies on Ceres and Vesta. The vast colonial empires of Earth nations and corporations shattered, leaving behind a complex network of spaceports, outposts, military bases, small colonies, and research stations that were either unable or unwilling to make their independence stick.

Even after a quarter millennia of human spacefaring, the Outer System remains almost untouched by human civilisation. Jupiter’s moons and Jupiter’s few cloud cities host half a billion people divided into many small colonies, some of which insist on their independence. Unlike the Inner System where every inch of every planet and moon is claimed by somebody or another, on some of Jupiter’s smaller moons there exists genuinely undeveloped territory, controlled by whoever has the largest military on it at any given moment.

The population density thins out even further out into the fringes of the Solar System. Saturn’s moons are home to about a hundred million people, the moons of Uranus about ten million, and the moons of Neptune a couple million. With economies supported by manufacturing, mining, and sponsorship from the more developed Inner System, the Outer System supports only a small smattering of piracy, but the weak militaries of this region are unable to suppress even that.

The weak militaries of the region and the lack of cohesive social structures leaves the Outer System a fairly unstable region. Brush wars, coups, and raids on rival colonies are pretty much daily news, although paradoxically, serious and large-scale warfare is extremely rare due to the general lack of large and stable colonies, independent or otherwise, that are able to conduct that kind of warfare.

Stretching past that is the vast, unclaimed, and undeveloped expanse of the Kuiper Belt, inhabited only by a few hundred of the bravest engineers and scientists of the same sort that founded the first Lunar Base in the twenty-first century and a few thousand of the craziest survivalists. These colonies, lacking the technological and industrial basis required to maintain complex machinery, subsist on the thin gruel of sunlight that deign to reach this far out into the fringes of the Solar System. A few lucky colonies that have fusion reactors must constantly be on guard against everyone else that seeks to steal it. No doubt in time, these few thousand residents will turn into a few million and then a few billion, but now, as of 2200, the Kuiper Belt is effectively empty.

All this on a backdrop of a human civilisation that continues to gain strength, in terms of population, technology, and economy, each year. Humanity now numbers at almost fifteen and a half billion people, and each passing year adds thirty million more to that number.

The Space Age has truly begun.




Bookkeeping

Your OP is glorious Plzen. Feel absolutely free to telegram me about any questions you may have about this RP, or simply leave a post in this thread.
This RP currently has no Co-OPs! Telegram the OP if interested.

Rules

The usual Portal to the Multiverse rules and conventions apply.

Each player may apply for no more than one faction.

In the application, remove everything in parenthesis.

Do not quote entire applications. Those clutter up the OOC thread very quickly. Quote specific paragraphs and sentences if you wish to respond to something in someone else's application.

If you are claiming a part of a celestial body other than Earth, then note the name of the region(s) that you are claiming (real or fictional), and note what proportion of the celestial body's surface area it represents. If there are multiple pieces, individually name them. There is no need to individually name asteroids less than 100m in diameter: just a statement to the effect that your faction holds asteroids is fine.

Any act that destroys a habitat will be severely frowned upon by everyone in the Solar System. The severity of the action you wish to undertake IC should correspond to the consideration your characters give the action.

If you wish to apply as a large and strong faction, I will expect you to produce a long and well-written application.

Application

If you wish to make a reservation, make a reasonably detailed description of the territory you wish to claim. The duration of reservations is 24 hours, extendable to 36 with the submission of a reasonably complete draft.

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[b][u]~Application~[/u][/b]

[b]-Basic Information-[/b]
[b]Name of Organisation[/b]:
[b]Headquarters[/b] (the name of the location, and the status of the location):
[b]Type of Organisation[/b] (is it legally a state? company? rebel group? terrorists?):
[b]Number of Members[/b] (or employees, citizens, et cetera):
[b]Territory Controlled[/b] (regions effectively controlled by your faction):
[b]Territory Claimed[/b] (regions which your faction believes legally belongs to them):
[b]Sphere of Influence[/b] (regions in which your faction exerts great influence; corporations have a lot of these):

[b]-Administrative Affairs-[/b]
[b]Head of Organisation[/b] (include title):
[b]Ruling Ideology[/b]:
[b]Primary Language of Leadership[/b] (you are permitted to use but discouraged from using fictional future languages):
[b]Internal Stability[/b] (how much power is actually held by the people who are supposed to hold power?):

[b]-Economic Affairs-[/b]
[b]Source of Revenue[/b] (taxes? nationalised industries? piracy? trade profit?):
[b]Economic Complexity[/b] (how wide a range of goods and services does your faction produce?):
[b]Gross Domestic Product[/b] (the total income of your members in 1990 int'l$; on average, humanity is about a hundred times richer than 2017):
[b]Currency[/b] (does your faction have its own currency? if so, what is its name, form, and value? if not, why not?):

[b]-Military/Security Affairs-[/b]
[b]Total Civilian Spacecraft Tonnage[/b] (0.03 to 0.12 tons per person, with less developed colonies having more):
[b]Total Military Spacecraft Tonnage[/b] (some fraction of the above):
[b]Security Personnel[/b] (the military is largely automated; more than 0.1% of your population in security implies extensive militarisation):
[b]Level of Equipment[/b] (civilian, paramilitary, guerilla-level, regular military, or specialised):
[b]Level of Training and/or AI[/b] (as above):

[b]-Technology-[/b] (for each category, answer antiquated, poor, mediocre, decent, good, advanced, or cutting-edge)
[b]Biotechnology, Ecology & Healthcare[/b]:
[b]Energy Technology, Spacefaring & Theoretical Physics[/b]:
[b]Information, A.I. & Communication Technology[/b]:
[b]Chemical, Material & Construction Technology[/b]:
[b]Industrial, Automation & Robotics Technology[/b]:

[b]-History-[/b]
(What happened in your organisation from 2050 to 2250. Consider this your RP sample. 40 words minimum.)

[b]-Description of Society-[/b]
(Anything that you wish to convey about the theme of your organisation that the application doesn't adequately address. 20 words minimum)

(put an X in the boxes below)
[ ] I have read the original post in its entirety, and understand the premise of this RP.
[ ] I acknowledge that by joining this RP, I am committing to following the rules and remaining active.




Reservations and Accepted Applications

The Federation of East Asian States - Khasinkonia - population 2,300 millions
The Federation of the Americas - Democratic East-Asia - population 1,612 millions
The Federal Martian Republic - The VOID - population 900 millions
Corporate State of Mariner - The Orson Empire - population 405 millions
The New United Republic of Europe - Swedish Allied States - population 364 millions
Krizina Union - Rodez - population 250 millions
Space Exploration Technologies Corporation - Fesconia - population 113 millions
Cerberus Universal Company - New Minahasa - population 100 millions
The Confederation of Nordic States - Plzen - population 64 millions
The Republic of Titan - Ruskland-Preuben - population 58 millions
Tsukiyomiko Development Cooperative - Lunas Legion - population 39 millions
Net total accepted population - 6,205 millions (40% of total System population)

Mercury
Most of it accepted as the Corporate State of Mariner for The Orson Empire.
Large base reserved for Cerberus Universal Company, by New Minahasa.
A base accepted as SpaceX for Fesconia.

Venus
Large base accepted with Cerberus Universal Company, by New Minahasa.
About a quarter accepted as The Federation of East Asian States by Khasinkonia.
About a tenth accepted as SpaceX for Fesconia.

Earth
Southern California and a base on Luna accepted as SpaceX for Fesconia.
Rest of the Americas and a significant portion of Luna accepted as The Federation of the Americas by Democratic East-Asia.
Large base in US East Coast reserved by Cerberus Universal Company, by New Minahasa.
The Nordic Region and small moon base accepted with the Confederation of Nordic States for Plzen.
Marius crater on Luna accepted with the Corporate State of Mariner for The Orson Empire.
The rest of Western Europe accepted as the New United Republic of Europe for Swedish Allied States.
East Asia accepted as The Federation of East Asian States by Khasinkonia.
Mare Orientale on Luna accepted with Tsukiyomiko Development Cooperative, for Lunas Legion.

Mars
Plurality of the planet accepted as Federal Martian Republic by The VOID.
Small colony reserved for Cerberus Universal Company, by New Minahasa.
Phobos and about a fiftieth of Mars accepted with SpaceX for Fesconia.

Asteroid Belt
A few mining outposts accepted with The Federation of the Americas by Democratic East-Asia.
Hygiea and a few mining centres reserved by Cerberus Universal Company, by New Minahasa.
1/4 of Vesta and assorted mining outposts accepted with Tsukiyomiko Development Cooperative, for Lunas Legion.
Rest of Vesta along with Ceres, Euphrosyne, Interamnia, and Egeria accepted as Krizina Union for Rodez.
Large colony on Pallas and assorted mining bases accepted with the Corporate State of Mariner for The Orson Empire.
Assorted mining outposts accepted with SpaceX for Fesconia.

Jovian System
Small base (cloud city) reserved for Cerberus Universal Company, by New Minahasa.
Small colony on Io accepted with Tsukiyomiko Development Cooperative, for Lunas Legion.
The Callisto Settlement (~1/4) accepted with the Confederation of Nordic States for Plzen.
Europa accepted as The Federation of East Asian States by Khasinkonia.
Slightly under half of Ganymede and some outposts accepted with SpaceX for Fesconia.

Outer System
5/6 of Titan accepted with the Republic of Titan for Ruskland-Preuben.
Mimas and small colonies on Titania, Oberon, Triton, Pluto, and two bases in the Kuiper Belt accepted with Tsukiyomiko Development Cooperative, for Lunas Legion.
Small bases on Titan, Titania, and Eris accepted with SpaceX for Fesconia.
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Postby Harbertia » Fri May 19, 2017 12:00 am

This is a lot to consider. One must ask; "What sort of organization do I want to manage so as to influence the Human direction?" few in real life feel they can, so there is that factor. "Do I want my organization to be a political or economic force?" A company perhaps or organization of independents- Freelancers maybe.

An unconfident person might even become stressed with worry; "Who will I find myself against? I hope our factions animosity doesn't spill into the OOC."

.... hmm... A Gas Miners Union; that could be a faction or "Terran Unificationists" - a lot of player options exist in this setting.
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Postby Spindle » Fri May 19, 2017 12:04 am

Imma tag this. Let's see what we can't do about an app...
Disclaimer: Nothing said here is the product of a rational mind.
So...apparently I'm a decent writer. Um...wait, what?
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Postby The Orson Empire » Fri May 19, 2017 12:22 am

Could I please reserve all of Mercury? Planning to bring my old app from previous RP back.

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Postby Zjaum » Fri May 19, 2017 12:56 am

Tag. Would it be too ambitious to take all of Venus? If not, reserve Venus. If so, what about the moons of Neptune?
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Postby The Federation of Kendor » Fri May 19, 2017 1:00 am

While I think I won't join, can there be a first contact with an alien race later in this RP?
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Postby Higher Japan » Fri May 19, 2017 1:12 am

~Application~

-Basic Information-
Name of Organisation: The institute of plasma and laser research
Headquarters : The main research facility is on Pluto, moved.
Type of Organisation : Company
Number of Members : 1,000 researchers, security personnel and others.
Territory Controlled : Pluto
Territory Claimed : Pluto
Sphere of Influence :The small space around Pluto

-Administrative Affairs-
Head of Organisation : Director Vixen Alexandria
Ruling Ideology: Democracy
Primary Language of Leadership : English
Internal Stability : Essentially like the galactic senate

-Economic Affairs-
Source of Revenue : Trade profit
Economic Complexity : Our products cover plasma and laser based equipment.
Gross Domestic Product : $100,000,000
Currency : The institutional dollar comes in the form of a small golden colored piece of metallic square piece. Each piece is equivalent to one dollar, which is why all products have no cents.

-Military/Security Affairs-
Total Civilian Spacecraft Tonnage : 0.06
Total Military Spacecraft Tonnage : 0.06
Security Personnel : 0%
Level of Equipment : Specialized, mainly with plasma and laser weapons
Level of Training and/or AI : Specialized

-Technology-
Biotechnology, Ecology & Healthcare: Good
Energy Technology, Spacefaring & Theoretical Physics: Advanced
Information, A.I. & Communication Technology: Good
Chemical, Material & Construction Technology: Good
Industrial, Automation & Robotics Technology: Cutting edge

-History-
Founded on 2050, this institute was a private venture mainly specializing in plasma and lasers, and as a side venture robotics and space craft. On 2150, after a hundred years of research and building up, the institute sent a spaceship to set up a base in space, along with it the best technology they had. After 50 years of development the main colony on Pluto was finally established, and after a few more failures the main facility was then moved to Pluto. The entire institute is run by a director backed up by a council of advisers with some power.

-Description of Society-
Founded by Scientist of the institute on earth, the institute is dedicated to the advancement of science based on plasma and laser based equipment, from laser cutting equipment to plasma energy. The facility is run equally by both AI and humans. The structure is mainly built by democracy, although there is a council to assist in the making of decisions.

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[x] I acknowledge that by joining this RP, I am committing to following the rules and remaining active.

First terrible app ready, tell me if anything needs to be added.
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Postby Plzen » Fri May 19, 2017 1:34 am

The Orson Empire wrote:Could I please reserve all of Mercury? Planning to bring my old app from previous RP back.

You could certainly reserve the vast majority of it. I'm going to leave the possibility of outpost enclaves on Mercury open, though, just in case other people want to have something on there as well.

Do be aware that trying to effectively govern an entire planet is a difficult venture, to say the least, and Mercury is dominated by corporate interests to start with.

Let me know if you still want that reservation. I'd certainly be interested in having you role-play as Mercury's plutocratic government. Its position near the centre of the system allows it to do some interesting things. :)



The Federation of Kendor wrote:While I think I won't join, can there be a first contact with an alien race later in this RP?

No.



Zjaum wrote:Tag. Would it be too ambitious to take all of Venus? If not, reserve Venus. If so, what about the moons of Neptune?

Same as with Mercury: you can have most of Venus, but if other people want to have outposts and bases on there I'm going to let them.

Nobody is going to single-handedly control the Neptunian system, but if you want a small moon or two you may. :)

Which one should I reserve for you?



Spindle wrote:Imma tag this. Let's see what we can't do about an app...

Thanks for the interest! :) I've left the application quite open to suit many different types of factions, but please do read the OP first so you get a good idea of the background.

Let me know if you have any questions.



Harbertia wrote:-snip-


In most of the Solar System, political force is economic force. Just ask the megacorporations. :)

Terran unificationists would be an interesting faction to have. They'll almost certainly be a terrorist group, though.



Higher Japan wrote:~Application~

-snip-


I do have certain standards regarding quality of writing, and your application needs to convince me that you can write reasonably well if you expect to be accepted. I will expect you to revise the application to be just in general better in terms of detail, coherence, spelling/capitalisation, etc.

Some specific comments regarding the content of the application itself:

Higher Japan wrote:Headquarters : The main research facility is on Pluto, moved.

Pluto is an odd place for a plasma and laser research facility. You'll need to justify why there's a company in a high-technology industry on Pluto.

Higher Japan wrote:Internal Stability : Essentially like the galactic senate

This tells me exactly nothing. Elaborate.

Higher Japan wrote:Gross Domestic Product : $100,000,000

The scale of this does not fit the setting.

Higher Japan wrote:Total Civilian Spacecraft Tonnage : 0.06
Total Military Spacecraft Tonnage : 0.06

Units? Also there's no way your spacecraft is 100% military.

Higher Japan wrote:Security Personnel : 0%

Zero security personnel for a research outpost in the Kuiper Belt seems like a decidedly bad idea.

Higher Japan wrote:-Technology-

It explicitly says in the original post that the Kuiper Belt is too thinly-populated to maintain complex machinery. Your technology level is not going to be generally good. 1,000 people does not support a full industrial civilisation: it can only really support a simple economy based on nano-factories.

Higher Japan wrote:On 2150, after a hundred years of research and building up, the institute sent a spaceship to set up a base in space, along with it the best technology they had. After 50 years of development the main colony on Pluto was finally established, and after a few more failures the main facility was then moved to Pluto.

Why would a company want to move its headquarters off deep into the middle of nowhere? Pluto's very far from where all the rich customers are. This needs better justification.

I commented on what I think are the most obvious errors in your application. This application needs major revisions before I will consider accepting it.
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Postby The Federation of Kendor » Fri May 19, 2017 1:37 am

Plzen wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:Could I please reserve all of Mercury? Planning to bring my old app from previous RP back.

You could certainly reserve most of it. I'm going to leave the possibility of outposts on Mercury open, though.

Do be aware that trying to effectively govern an entire planet is a difficult venture, to say the least, and Mercury is dominated by corporate interests to start with.



The Federation of Kendor wrote:While I think I won't join, can there be a first contact with an alien race later in this RP?

No.



Zjaum wrote:Tag. Would it be too ambitious to take all of Venus? If not, reserve Venus. If so, what about the moons of Neptune?

Same as with Mercury: you can have most of Venus, but if other people want to have outposts and bases on there I'm going to let them.

Nobody is going to single-handedly control the Neptunian system, but if you want a small moon or two as outposts you may.



Spindle wrote:Imma tag this. Let's see what we can't do about an app...

Thanks for the interest! I've left the application quite open to suit many different types of factions, but please do read the OP first so you get a good idea of the background.



Harbertia wrote:-snip-


In most of the Solar System, political force is economic force. Just ask the megacorporations. :)

Terran unificationists would be an interesting faction to have. They'll almost certainly be a terrorist group, though.



Higher Japan wrote:~Application~

-snip-


I do have certain standards regarding quality of writing, and your application needs to convince me that you can write reasonably well if you expect to be accepted. I will expect you to revise the application to be just in general better in terms of detail, coherence, spelling/capitalisation, etc.

Some specific comments regarding the content of the application itself:

Higher Japan wrote:Headquarters : The main research facility is on Pluto, moved.

Pluto is an odd place for a plasma and laser research facility. You'll need to justify why there's a company in a high-technology industry on Pluto.

Higher Japan wrote:Internal Stability : Essentially like the galactic senate

This tells me exactly nothing. Elaborate.

Higher Japan wrote:Gross Domestic Product : $100,000,000

The scale of this does not fit the setting.

Higher Japan wrote:Total Civilian Spacecraft Tonnage : 0.06
Total Military Spacecraft Tonnage : 0.06

Units? Also there's no way your spacecraft is 100% military.

Higher Japan wrote:Security Personnel : 0%

Zero security personnel for a research outpost in the Kuiper Belt seems like a decidedly bad idea.

Higher Japan wrote:-Technology-

It explicitly says in the original post that the Kuiper Belt is too thinly-populated to maintain complex machinery. Your technology level is not going to be generally good. 1,000 people does not support a full industrial civilisation: it can only really support a simple economy based on nano-factories.

Higher Japan wrote:On 2150, after a hundred years of research and building up, the institute sent a spaceship to set up a base in space, along with it the best technology they had. After 50 years of development the main colony on Pluto was finally established, and after a few more failures the main facility was then moved to Pluto.

Why would a company want to move its headquarters off deep into the middle of nowhere? Pluto's very far from where all the rich customers are. This needs better justification.

I commented on what I think are the most obvious errors in your application. This application needs major revisions before I will consider accepting it.

Why?
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The Federation of Kendor wrote:Why?

Because aliens are not a plot element that I want to have in this role-play. It would ruin the setting.

Also, please avoid from quoting long posts in their entirety in the future. Those clutter up the thread very quickly.
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Postby The Federation of Kendor » Fri May 19, 2017 1:42 am

Plzen wrote:
The Federation of Kendor wrote:Why?

Because aliens are not a plot element that I want to have in this role-play. It would ruin the setting.

Also, please avoid from quoting long posts in their entirety in the future. Those clutter up the thread very quickly.

Then can you teach me on how to use the quote code properly?
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Postby Harkback Union » Fri May 19, 2017 1:47 am

No mechanics?!?

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Postby Plzen » Fri May 19, 2017 1:54 am

Harkback Union wrote:No mechanics?!?

I have a couple mechanics-based RPs that I have planned right now - this isn't one of them.

At least one of them will be up later this summer, rest assured. :)

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Postby Harkback Union » Fri May 19, 2017 1:59 am

Plzen wrote:
Harkback Union wrote:No mechanics?!?

I have a couple mechanics-based RPs that I have planned right now - this isn't one of them.

At least one of them will be up later this summer, rest assured. :)


But didn't you work on the mechanics of this very roleplay?

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Postby Plzen » Fri May 19, 2017 2:05 am

Harkback Union wrote:But didn't you work on the mechanics of this very roleplay?

Nah. That one had a far larger scope. It's effectively a 4x game covering a stretch of time from the beginning of space colonisation to people spreading over the galaxy. Honestly, I don't think I'll ever run that one. The mechanics went nowhere and I had no idea what I was doing. It will be the nuclear war one that I run later this summer.

This one has a far narrower scope. It starts at 2200, and I'll be surprised if we manage to cover more than 20 years IC before the RP ends.

If you have any further questions, I'll be happy to answer them - in the mechanics' guild thread. :) I'd like to keep the discussion on this thread to this RP.

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~Application~

-Basic Information-
Name of Organisation: Ouranos Industries
Headquarters: Ligeia Mare Facility, fully operational
Type of Organisation: Company
Number of Members: 15,000
Territory Controlled: Ligeia Mare on Titan (moon of Saturn), as well as various other lakes surrounding it and the land between them, having assets in around 16% of the world's surface (subject to change if desired)
Territory Claimed: Similar to territory controlled, but with a few more lakes claimed
Sphere of Influence: Saturn system as a whole, especially Titan

-Administrative Affairs-
Head of Organisation: Chief Executive Officer Kandinskaya Valerianovna
Ruling Ideology: Corporate dominance (selling products, defeating competitors, etc)
Primary Language of Leadership: Russian
Internal Stability): High, but declining

-Economic Affairs-
Source of Revenue: Selling of products (primarily rocket fuel in the form of methane, and alcohol in the form of ethanol using an ethane oxidation process, as well as other hydrocarbons found in Titan's lakes such as acetylene. The company also sells products using these fuels such a rocket engines)
Economic Complexity: Moderate, with a clear focus on fuel extraction and distribution but secondary ventures in rocketry and mining equipment
Gross Domestic Product: $5,558,000,000 (subject to alteration because I suck at GDP)
Currency: We do not use a specific currency

-Military/Security Affairs-
Total Civilian Spacecraft Tonnage: 0.6 tons per person
Total Military Spacecraft Tonnage: 0.2 tons per person
Security Personnel: 0.025% of population
Level of Equipment: Regular military, but specialised to deal with Titan's gravity and conditions
Level of Training and/or AI: Moderate, capable of dealing with most criminal threats but not capable of engaging a true military in combat effectively

-Technology-
Biotechnology, Ecology & Healthcare: Decent
Energy Technology, Spacefaring & Theoretical Physics: Good
Information, A.I. & Communication Technology: Good
Chemical, Material & Construction Technology: Advanced
Industrial, Automation & Robotics Technology: Good

-History-

Ouranos Industries initially specialised in the production and sale of rocket fuel as the age of space exploration experienced began. Based in western Russia, the company initially developed relatively stander rocket fuel, such as kerosene and monopropellant for reaction control systems. Various Russian endeavours especially began to favour it due to proximity and high quality fuel production. Ouranos Industries gradually expanded its influence as a highly specialised business.

When the possibility of developing colonies began, Ouranos was slow to catch up. However, it was able to establish facilities on Saturn's moon, Titan. Using revolutionary technology to develop methane-fuelled rocket components and distribute them to other organisations, Ouranos Industries experienced a massive boost in sales, becoming a prominent competitor. When processes were discovered the convert the abundant ethane into ethanol alcohol, Ouranos Industries jumped at the chance to develop a subsidiary venture based around this product.

That is not to say Ouranos industries has not experienced its issues. As more and more advanced rockets are developed, the company struggles to balance its own development against the needs of extracting fuel. As such, it is being overtaken by those capable of producing more advanced devices with higher power and more efficiency. Ouranos Industries also experienced a serious scandal about malfunctioning parts, and many believe it to be somewhat biased towards Russian ventures. It's headquarters were moved to the main Titan facility, both to signify its independence from nations and because its earthbound influence was fading rapidly.

Today, despite remaining competitive, Ouranos Industries struggles to excel in any areas. Under new leadership, it has promised to develop more efficient engines, more powerful fuel, and more exotic alcoholic beverages. However, it remains unclear as to whether the company can deliver upon these promises, or whether it will fade beneath the dust of Titan's clouds, abandoned and forgotten.

-Description of Society-

The average employee believes the company to be more advanced than it actually is. Lesser employees are treated somewhat poorly. Focuses on automation have many concerned as to whether the company will replace them with mindless drones. Being a company, any claims the organisation makes with regards to territory can likely be overridden by national governments should they press the issue, and are more territory in which they have assets in than territory that they actually own.

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Postby Plzen » Fri May 19, 2017 2:24 am

Kyoki Chudoku wrote:Number of Members: 15,000
Territory Controlled: Ligeia Mare on Titan (moon of Saturn), as well as various other lakes surrounding it and the land between them, having assets in around 16% of the world's surface (subject to change if desired)
Gross Domestic Product: $5,558,000,000 (subject to alteration because I suck at GDP)

I like this. A couple of things that I need you to fix, though:

The first thing is, the Saturnian system as a whole has something like a hundred million people, and most of them live on Titan. A company that controls 16% of Titan should have population numbering in the millions, if not tens of millions. Raise your GDP accordingly. As a decent economy in the outer system, a GDP of about a million dollars per person will work (this setting is quite rich).

The second thing is, chemical rockets are obsolete technology. As in, really obsolete. I can see your corporation making lots of money producing interesting chemical products (and maybe medicine) from Titan's rich and unique hydrocarbons, but I can't really see them making rocket fuel out of it.

Fix those two things and I'll be happy to accept your application.

Also, you may wish to know that nations aren't all that powerful in that setting, and any nation would find it hard to legally justify taking over a corporation's territory. :)
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Postby Kyoki Chudoku » Fri May 19, 2017 2:32 am

Plzen wrote:
Kyoki Chudoku wrote:Number of Members: 15,000
Territory Controlled: Ligeia Mare on Titan (moon of Saturn), as well as various other lakes surrounding it and the land between them, having assets in around 16% of the world's surface (subject to change if desired)
Gross Domestic Product: $5,558,000,000 (subject to alteration because I suck at GDP)

I like this. A couple of things that I need you to fix, though:

The first thing is, the Saturnian system as a whole has something like a hundred million people, and most of them live on Titan. A company that controls 16% of Titan should have population numbering in the millions, if not tens of millions. Raise your GDP accordingly. As a decent economy in the outer system, a GDP of 1.5 million or 2 million dollars per person will work (this setting is quite rich).

The second thing is, chemical rockets are obsolete technology. As in, really obsolete. I can see your corporation making lots of money producing interesting chemical products (and maybe medicine) from Titan's rich and unique hydrocarbons, but I can't really see them making rocket fuel out of it.

Fix those two things and I'll be happy to accept your application.

Also, you may wish to know that nations aren't all that powerful in that setting, and any nation would find it hard to legally justify taking over a corporation's territory. :)


Understood, I'll try to fix those two things when I have time and resubmit the application.
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Postby Ruskland-Preuben » Fri May 19, 2017 2:34 am

~Application~

-Basic Information-
Name of Organisation: The Republic of Titan
Headquarters: The rest of Titan, and it's quite the moneymaker that rock. But for more detail, it's located in Erudito City, at the equator.
Type of Organisation: A state that would put the USA's desire for oil to shame.
Number of Members: 58 million civilians, with thousands arriving just to get a sliver of the pie.
Territory Controlled: Most of Titan, Saturn. We made the place warmer too using technology.
Territory Claimed: We have a bunch of mining bases on the other big moons of Saturn, and we try to grab em, but it'll be a while before the United Republican States of Saturn is born, or URSS. Also, the land of Ouranos Industries, cheeky men them, but everyone loves them soo, no touching with guns... Yet...
Sphere of Influence: Most of Saturn, though we sometimes get into slight scuffles with Ouranos Industries.

-Administrative Affairs-
Head of Organisation: President Harald II Snow
Ruling Ideology: Capitalism, the benevolent kind. We may be moneymakers, but we ain't assholes.
Primary Language of Leadership: English
Internal Stability: I'd give it a 8.5 due to some loose ends here and there, and a few people don't like a ruler ruling for life...

-Economic Affairs-
Source of Revenue: Trading oil and methane, as well as hydrogen, everybody loves nuclear fusion.
Economic Complexity: Oil, methane, and other stuff we find inside Titan, as well as minerals from the moons we have mining bases.
Gross Domestic Product An average of 1,080,750$
Currency: We use ducats, no no, not the gold, but paper money. For comparison, 1 ducat = IDK, 50 to 100$ I guess?

-Military/Security Affairs-
Total Civilian Spacecraft Tonnage: 0.05 tons
Total Military Spacecraft Tonnage: 0.03 tons
Security Personnel: 0.01% of citizenship, rest are AI droids.
Level of Equipment: Specialized, with extensive advances in antimatter weaponry and zero point energy systems(getting energy from the vacuum of space, which has a crap ton of hydrogen and other stuff).
Level of Training and/or AI: I give it a 9/10

-Technology- (for each category, answer antiquated, poor, mediocre, decent, good, advanced, or cutting-edge)
Biotechnology, Ecology & Healthcare: Decent
Energy Technology, Spacefaring & Theoretical Physics: Cutting Edge
Information, A.I. & Communication Technology: Good
Chemical, Material & Construction Technology: Decent
Industrial, Automation & Robotics Technology: Advanced

-History-
It starts with the knowledge of unfathomable oil and methane reserves on Titan, but due to the tech of the time, the rock was not reached. A few bases would be established later on on Titan in 2078, but these were for research, and were heavily reliant on the other bases on Jupiter and the Asteroid belt to ship their Earth made resources. The place would reach a thousand people on 2089, and an ambitious businessman named Ikan Walsh was eager to become the first one to exploit the pie, by using up all of his previous endeavors funds, as well as some donations from the good and bad, was he able to create a small but good trading fleet and create a base on Titan, Erudito Base, soon to be a city. His gamble worked, and he was raking cash slowly but surely, and it was cash in the hundreds of thousands. It all turned north for him, as in 2098 was he able to snatch a few nano-factories with the help of his money. With him now buying off the other bases on Titan, and converting them to extraction or mining facilities, as well as the nano-factories he bought, profits turned from millions to hundred millions. This also attracted droves of men, ranging from businessmen, scientists, and the occasional regular Terran, all arriving in the thousands. Now that he had control over all of Titan, achieved in 2132, he was able to declare himself President of the Republic of Titan, and wrote its constitution. He made his first base, now in a sense, a metropolis with hundreds of extraction facilities and thousands of homes for the workers, capital, and renamed it to Erudito City. By now he was an old man, watching hundreds of ships landing and depositing ambitious men and women, families, refugees, and sometimes a pirate, into his republic...

President Ikan Walsh died on 2141 of old age, and is considered the founding father of the Republic. And so elections began in earnest in late 2142, and a benevolent and capable militaristic ruler came to power, Harald II Snow, a businessman from the asteroid mines. With him, he began expansion outside of Titan, establishing mining and sometimes research bases on the other moons of Saturn, adding to the raging torrent that was currently the profits of the Republic, of course, garrisons were needed, and he formalized the military, forming a real fleet, and delving into AI systems to power up military droids.

It seemed that the early settlers of the Saturnine system had a cultist or two with them, as in the cultists from the Cult of Saturn, and through the years, they grew in number, becoming influential people in the small governments of the other moons, some Saturnine moons were fully cultist filled! When Titan rose, they looked upon it with interest, then with disgust, then with hatred as they discovered their cults there being violently obliterated. And when the Republic expanded, they met a few million angry cultists armed and ready to fight. This resulted in large battles occurring on the moons, such as the Razing of Enceladus, which was one of those moons filled with cultists to the brim. The battle lasted for a month, as troops were constantly being ambushed and pushed off the moon by heavily entrenched fanatics, and it left the military no choice but to commence orbital bombardment on the small moon. This caused large canyons, or from above, cracks to form, but it wiped out the cultists, but in return, eternally scarred the moon. The moon became quite unstable after that, with sudden landslides covering bases under the canyons, and the earthquakes caused by large landslides.

Currently, the war is still raging, but it seems that it will all be over soon, as moon after moon is purged of Saturn Cults...

-Description of Society-
A republic made by a corporation. Presidents reign for life, and nobody can be bribed to vote for someone as everybody is rich. Fleets are mostly trading ships, but due to piracy, military ships are sent to guard the treasure fleets. We sometimes buy off pirates and mercenaries to deal with threats and ruin other businesses, and split up the profit 50/50. Being a shareholder in the company is a sure way to become a politician.

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Postby Ruskland-Preuben » Fri May 19, 2017 2:36 am

Plzen wrote:
Kyoki Chudoku wrote:Number of Members: 15,000
Territory Controlled: Ligeia Mare on Titan (moon of Saturn), as well as various other lakes surrounding it and the land between them, having assets in around 16% of the world's surface (subject to change if desired)
Gross Domestic Product: $5,558,000,000 (subject to alteration because I suck at GDP)

I like this. A couple of things that I need you to fix, though:

The first thing is, the Saturnian system as a whole has something like a hundred million people, and most of them live on Titan. A company that controls 16% of Titan should have population numbering in the millions, if not tens of millions. Raise your GDP accordingly. As a decent economy in the outer system, a GDP of 1.5 million or 2 million dollars per person will work (this setting is quite rich).

The second thing is, chemical rockets are obsolete technology. As in, really obsolete. I can see your corporation making lots of money producing interesting chemical products (and maybe medicine) from Titan's rich and unique hydrocarbons, but I can't really see them making rocket fuel out of it.

Fix those two things and I'll be happy to accept your application.

Also, you may wish to know that nations aren't all that powerful in that setting, and any nation would find it hard to legally justify taking over a corporation's territory. :)


Ayy, I made an app first, just got delayed because I had to buy something!
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Postby Plzen » Fri May 19, 2017 2:55 am

Kyoki Chudoku wrote:Understood, I'll try to fix those two things when I have time and resubmit the application.

I look forward to reading your revised application. For the moment I'll reserve Titan for you.



Ruskland-Preuben wrote:Ayy, I made an app first, just got delayed because I had to buy something!

Sorry, but first posted is first claimed.

Some comments on your application. Some of them are nitpicky details but I'd like you to fix them anyways:

Ruskland-Preuben wrote:Number of Members: 1 million civilians, with thousands arriving just to get a sliver of the pie.

Titan's total population runs at 60~70 millions. If you control most of Titan, your population should reflect that.

Ruskland-Preuben wrote:Territory Controlled: All of Titan, Saturn. We made the place warmer too...

As noted above, someone else claimed a slice of Titan before you, so you can't have all of it. If you want to take the rest of Titan, you may do so.

Ruskland-Preuben wrote:Sphere of Influence: Everywhere, if we decide to stop oil export, we would probably starve a ton of nations.
[...]
Source of Revenue: Trading oil

Chemical energy is obsolete and has been for decades. The Solar System runs on a mix of solar power and nuclear fusion. Oil still has considerable value as a chemical, but it doesn't have its main use as an energy source anymore.

Ruskland-Preuben wrote:Internal Stability: I'd give it a 8.5 due to some loose ends here and there, and a few people don't like a ruler ruling for life...

This means 8.5 out of 10, right?

Ruskland-Preuben wrote:Gross Domestic Product 2,780,000,000$

This is a very rich setting. You should at least have half a million dollars per person, and more likely 2~3 times that.

Ruskland-Preuben wrote:Total Civilian Spacecraft Tonnage: 0.05
Total Military Spacecraft Tonnage: 0.03

Units? I assume this is tons per person?

Ruskland-Preuben wrote:-Technology-

This is rather high for a nation on the frontier.

Your history is good, and so is your description of society.

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Postby Ruskland-Preuben » Fri May 19, 2017 3:01 am

Plzen wrote:
Kyoki Chudoku wrote:Understood, I'll try to fix those two things when I have time and resubmit the application.

I look forward to reading your revised application. For the moment I'll reserve Titan for you.



Ruskland-Preuben wrote:Ayy, I made an app first, just got delayed because I had to buy something!

Sorry, but first posted is first claimed.

Some comments on your application. Some of them are nitpicky details but I'd like you to fix them anyways:

Ruskland-Preuben wrote:Number of Members: 1 million civilians, with thousands arriving just to get a sliver of the pie.

Titan's total population runs at 60~70 millions. If you control most of Titan, your population should reflect that.

Ruskland-Preuben wrote:Territory Controlled: All of Titan, Saturn. We made the place warmer too...

As noted above, someone else claimed a slice of Titan before you, so you can't have all of it. If you want to take the rest of Titan, you may do so.

Ruskland-Preuben wrote:Sphere of Influence: Everywhere, if we decide to stop oil export, we would probably starve a ton of nations.
[...]
Source of Revenue: Trading oil

Chemical energy is obsolete and has been for decades. The Solar System runs on a mix of solar power and nuclear fusion. Oil still has considerable value as a chemical, but it doesn't have its main use as an energy source anymore.

Ruskland-Preuben wrote:Internal Stability: I'd give it a 8.5 due to some loose ends here and there, and a few people don't like a ruler ruling for life...

This means 8.5 out of 10, right?

Ruskland-Preuben wrote:Gross Domestic Product 2,780,000,000$

This is a very rich setting. You should at least have half a million dollars per person, and more likely 2~3 times that.

Ruskland-Preuben wrote:Total Civilian Spacecraft Tonnage: 0.05
Total Military Spacecraft Tonnage: 0.03

Units? I assume this is tons per person?

Ruskland-Preuben wrote:-Technology-

This is rather high for a nation on the frontier.

Your history is good, and so is your description of society.


Thanks, I'll be changing some stuff.
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Postby Ruskland-Preuben » Fri May 19, 2017 3:08 am

Plzen wrote:
Kyoki Chudoku wrote:Understood, I'll try to fix those two things when I have time and resubmit the application.

I look forward to reading your revised application. For the moment I'll reserve Titan for you.



Ruskland-Preuben wrote:Ayy, I made an app first, just got delayed because I had to buy something!

Sorry, but first posted is first claimed.

Some comments on your application. Some of them are nitpicky details but I'd like you to fix them anyways:

Ruskland-Preuben wrote:Number of Members: 1 million civilians, with thousands arriving just to get a sliver of the pie.

Titan's total population runs at 60~70 millions. If you control most of Titan, your population should reflect that.

Ruskland-Preuben wrote:Territory Controlled: All of Titan, Saturn. We made the place warmer too...

As noted above, someone else claimed a slice of Titan before you, so you can't have all of it. If you want to take the rest of Titan, you may do so.

Ruskland-Preuben wrote:Sphere of Influence: Everywhere, if we decide to stop oil export, we would probably starve a ton of nations.
[...]
Source of Revenue: Trading oil

Chemical energy is obsolete and has been for decades. The Solar System runs on a mix of solar power and nuclear fusion. Oil still has considerable value as a chemical, but it doesn't have its main use as an energy source anymore.

Ruskland-Preuben wrote:Internal Stability: I'd give it a 8.5 due to some loose ends here and there, and a few people don't like a ruler ruling for life...

This means 8.5 out of 10, right?

Ruskland-Preuben wrote:Gross Domestic Product 2,780,000,000$

This is a very rich setting. You should at least have half a million dollars per person, and more likely 2~3 times that.

Ruskland-Preuben wrote:Total Civilian Spacecraft Tonnage: 0.05
Total Military Spacecraft Tonnage: 0.03

Units? I assume this is tons per person?

Ruskland-Preuben wrote:-Technology-

This is rather high for a nation on the frontier.

Your history is good, and so is your description of society.


Done the edits, we'll be allying Ouranos, the cultist bases are getting fortified as we near their last moon, and losses are rising...
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Postby Ruskland-Preuben » Fri May 19, 2017 3:09 am

Kyoki Chudoku wrote:
Plzen wrote:I like this. A couple of things that I need you to fix, though:

The first thing is, the Saturnian system as a whole has something like a hundred million people, and most of them live on Titan. A company that controls 16% of Titan should have population numbering in the millions, if not tens of millions. Raise your GDP accordingly. As a decent economy in the outer system, a GDP of 1.5 million or 2 million dollars per person will work (this setting is quite rich).

The second thing is, chemical rockets are obsolete technology. As in, really obsolete. I can see your corporation making lots of money producing interesting chemical products (and maybe medicine) from Titan's rich and unique hydrocarbons, but I can't really see them making rocket fuel out of it.

Fix those two things and I'll be happy to accept your application.

Also, you may wish to know that nations aren't all that powerful in that setting, and any nation would find it hard to legally justify taking over a corporation's territory. :)


Understood, I'll try to fix those two things when I have time and resubmit the application.


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Postby Kyoki Chudoku » Fri May 19, 2017 3:10 am

Ruskland-Preuben wrote:
Kyoki Chudoku wrote:
Understood, I'll try to fix those two things when I have time and resubmit the application.


Whaddya think of an alliance eh?


Considering your significant presence on Titan, possible. Although you'd probably already have access to many products we can provide.
This nation exists for fun and insanity, not to represent my actual views which are much more mundane and boring.
Also, I don't use NS stats. So please ignore them.
Current Status (yes, I'm bad at keeping this updated): Immaterial

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