Judge Allows White Alabama Town to Return to Segregation

[Vassenor]

So it seems a District Judge has granted permission for the creation of a segregated school district, despite detailing at length why it was a bad thing.

The long and short of it seems to be that a number of families demanded to be allowed to create their own school district for no other reason than they got upset over the idea of their kids being in school with children from other ethnicities, with an “unambiguous message of inferiority” in their justifications.

And I really don't get why the judge let it pass despite outwardly stating that it was a move motivated purely by racism.

But then this really is the stuff that's been coming out of the woodwork over the last year as people start thinking this is suddenly OK again.

But what does everyone else think?

[New haven america]

I seem to recall this being illegal.

I also doubt our government will actually do anything about it.

What a time to be alive...

[Conserative Morality]

Racism is dead, you SJWs need to stop accusing good honest Anglo-Saxons of being racists and is racism really a bad thing anyway?

[Washington Resistance Army]

Is the actual ruling online anywhere? Most I can find are various motions and whatnot but I love me some legalese and would like to see the logic behind this.

[New haven america]

Racism is dead, you SJWs need to stop accusing good honest Anglo-Saxons of being racists and is racism really a bad thing anyway?

If all races were equal, then tell me, why was the glorious white race the only one able to take over and rule the Africans, Asians, and Native Americans?

Answer me that, you bloody SJWs.

[Volkmacht]

Martin Luther King Jr is rolling in his grave.

[Vassenor]

Is the actual ruling online anywhere? Most I can find are various motions and whatnot but I love me some legalese and would like to see the logic behind this.

I think this is it.

This seems to be the original filing.

[Jovuistan]

Isn't this illegal? Hopefully the higher courts can strike it down.

[New haven america]

1. Isn't this illegal? 2. Hopefully the higher courts can strike it down.

1. Yes
2. They won't

[Washington Resistance Army]

Is the actual ruling online anywhere? Most I can find are various motions and whatnot but I love me some legalese and would like to see the logic behind this.

I think this is it.

This seems to be the original filing.

You da best

I'm gonna read over it and see if I can make sense of it.

[Saiwania]

As much as I'm in favor of segregation in general, I'd have to come out against this. I want people to separate on a de facto as opposed to on a de jure basis. Whenever it has been officially codified by law, separate but equal never resulted. One group got the lion's share of tax revenues, while the other group wound up neglected. It is far simpler to just distribute the resources evenly.

Roads, hospitals, schools, and so on can serve all citizens without regard to race, while more private settings such as real estate, can more fully embrace segregation. There should be a White section of town, a Black portion, and so on. It doesn't mean that all people there are x race, just that the area happens to be where a certain racial majority lives.

[Aclion]

And I really don't get why the judge let it pass despite outwardly stating that it was a move motivated purely by racism.

Probably because the reasons went completely unmentioned over in that rag of an article. Here's a better one that actually touches upon her reasoning.

But then this really is the stuff that's been coming out of the woodwork over the last year as people start thinking this is suddenly OK again.

Oh this isn't new. I live in Connecticut and our schools are segregated in the same way, have been since before the civil rights movement.

[Aelex]

Funny, I thought you libs out of all people would be glad that segregation return, I mean you've been advocating for for this shit for the last decade or so, after all!
Oh, I get it, it's only bad because it's the whitey that are segregating themselves from the minorities and not the contrary. :/

[Vassenor]

As much as I'm in favor of segregation in general, I'd have to come out against this. I want people to separate on a de facto as opposed to on a de jure basis. Whenever it has been officially codified by law, separate but equal never resulted. One group got the lion's share of tax revenues, while the other group wound up neglected. It is far simpler to just distribute the resources evenly.

Roads, hospitals, schools, and so on can serve all citizens without regard to race, while more private settings such as real estate, can more fully embrace segregation. There should be a White section of town, a Black portion, and so on. It doesn't mean that all people there are x race, just that the area happens to be where a certain racial majority lives.

I fail to see how segregation of any sort is a good thing.

[New haven america]

Funny, I thought you libs out of all people would be glad that segregation return, I mean you've been advocating for for this shit for the last decade or so, after all!
Oh, I get it, it's only bad because it's the whitey that are segregating themselves from the minorities and not the contrary. :/

Liberals are against segregation.

I'm happy to burst your bubble.

[Gurori]

I think that this is just atrocious. I thought we as a species were better than that.

[Aelex]

Liberals are against segregation.

I'm happy to burst your bubble.

And yet they support policies favoring Communitarianism that end up causing it. :^)

[New haven america]

I think that this is just atrocious. I thought we as a species were better than that.

You seem to have higher opinions of humanity than most. :\

[Philjia]

Alabama: proud to be living stereotypes.

[Saiwania]

I fail to see how segregation of any sort is a good thing.

It is a good thing from my view because it reduces the contact between the races which means fewer biracial children than there might be otherwise. I want the population to continue as separate races as opposed to blending into one color in the long run.

The danger I see with a return to de jure segregation is that it'll ultimately be undone in the long run for the same reasons it originally was undone and maybe things will become slightly more difficult for decent White folk such as myself, who only want to keep to their own kind. I don't want a good thing such as White flight to be jeopardized. I'm pragmatic enough to allow for a minimum amount of racial cross contact, but not too much.

[Vassenor]

Funny, I thought you libs out of all people would be glad that segregation return, I mean you've been advocating for for this shit for the last decade or so, after all!

...Since when?

[Vassenor]

I fail to see how segregation of any sort is a good thing.

It is a good thing from my view because it reduces the contact between the races which means fewer biracial children than there might be otherwise. I want the population to continue as separate races as opposed to blending into one color in the long run.

The danger I see with a return to de jure segregation is that it'll ultimately be undone in the long run for the same reasons it originally was undone and maybe things will become slightly more difficult for decent White folk such as myself, who only want to keep to their own kind. I don't want a good thing such as White flight to be jeopardized. I'm pragmatic enough to allow for a minimum amount of racial cross contact, but not too much.

Oh, so it's another one of those RACIAL PURITY arguments.

[New haven america]

Liberals are against segregation.

I'm happy to burst your bubble.

And yet they support policies favoring Communitarianism that end up causing it.

A. Liberalism=/=Communism
B. Communism is about working together and rising above racial and economic boundaries, and if you knew anything about Communism, then I wouldn't have had to explain that to you.

Come on, give me actually decent material to work with next time. K'thanks.

[Philjia]

I fail to see how segregation of any sort is a good thing.

It is a good thing from my view because it reduces the contact between the races which means fewer biracial children than there might be otherwise. I want the population to continue as separate races as opposed to blending into one color in the long run.

But why?

[Seangoli]

Is the actual ruling online anywhere? Most I can find are various motions and whatnot but I love me some legalese and would like to see the logic behind this.

I think this is it.

This seems to be the original filing.

Jesus fuck, that is just plain shitty.

No one from Gardendale consulted the parents of North Smithfield students
about the mandatory elementary school rezoning. (Doc. 1124, pp. 52, 68; Doc. 1125,
p. 273). Should the Court permit the Gardendale Board to separate pursuant to the
December 2015 plan, parents from the North Smithfield community will have no
formal say in the operation of the Gardendale schools because they will not be able to
vote for the members of the school board, and they cannot serve on the Gardendale
Board of Education because they are not Gardendale residents.

So North Smithfield will have students attend the Gardendale district schools, pay taxes to Gardendale, however the North Smithfield people have no say on the matter, have no voting rights for the school board, and cannot serve on the school board because they are not Gardendale residents.

It goes on to talk about how North Smithfield students get to attend Gardendale so long as Jefferson county continues to pay Gardendale for them to attend, however it's not clear what would happen to those students if Jefferson county doesn't pay, or honestly if Gardendale chooses not to accept them because of course there's a clause that means it's open to Gardendale's discretion on whether or not they are allowed to attend the school there (Not sure how you can just plain refuse students in your municipal district).