Should School Attendance be Compulsory?

[Industrial Virginia]

Usually whenever I try to complain about stuff, I make a fool of myself. Now for a controversial topic that probably won't make me sound stupid. Anyway, so, I am personally against compulsory school due to the fact that people should be responsible for getting their own education. If schooling is left to be a persons decision, it will probably then go back to being left to the free market. This would be good because it could allow schooling to be competitive and create supply and demand for schooling.

Whatd'ya think? I know I'm probably wrong somewhere in there, so feel free to correct me politely

[San Lumen]

Yes schooling should be compulsory till 18. Education should not be something left to the free market. Schooling shouldnt be about supply and demand and being competitive. What's to stop an area from saying oh we don't like x group so therefore we won't build any schools in their area? Education is a right of all.

[Esternial]

Gosh, I can't possibly imagine the advantage of giving everyone at least a basic education.

[Industrial Virginia]

Yes schooling should be compulsory till 18. Education should not be something left to the free market. Schooling shouldnt be about supply and demand and being competitive. What's to stop an area from saying oh we don't like x group so therefore we won't build any schools in their area? Education is a right of all.

But why would they do that? A large inspiration for the market to build a school would be to make a profit and employ people.

[Tesra]

Yes schooling should be compulsory till 18. Education should not be something left to the free market. Schooling shouldnt be about supply and demand and being competitive. What's to stop an area from saying oh we don't like x group so therefore we won't build any schools in their area? Education is a right of all.

But why would they do that? A large inspiration for the market to build a school would be to make a profit and employ people.

Well what's more important?
The profit or the education of one's children?

Gonna have to say yes to compulsory school attendance.

[Industrial Virginia]

But why would they do that? A large inspiration for the market to build a school would be to make a profit and employ people.

Well what's more important?
The profit or the education of one's children?

Gonna have to say yes to compulsory school attendance.

They won't make a profit unless they teach the children which will be overlooked by the parents.

[San Lumen]

Yes schooling should be compulsory till 18. Education should not be something left to the free market. Schooling shouldnt be about supply and demand and being competitive. What's to stop an area from saying oh we don't like x group so therefore we won't build any schools in their area? Education is a right of all.

But why would they do that? A large inspiration for the market to build a school would be to make a profit and employ people.

Lets say a county legislature is made up of people who don't like African Americans. The county seat (the largest city in the county) is majority non white but the county as a whole is majority white. The county legislature could decide we don't want to build schools in that city we we will only build them in the white areas. Would you be ok with that?

[Mezonpotania]

But why would they do that? A large inspiration for the market to build a school would be to make a profit and employ people.

Lets say a county legislature is made up of people who don't like African Americans. The county seat (the largest city in the county) is majority non white but the county as a whole is majority white. The county legislature could decide we don't want to build schools in that city we we will only build them in the white areas. Would you be ok with that?

It will be left to companies, not governments.
Also, look at private schools! They give a good education, and they only do that because they know they won't get paid if they don't! The better service you provide, the more people buy it! That is how the free market works!

Now, you will probably think that people will make crappy schools and everyone will pay for it, but they won't! Better schools will be made and the crappy ones will go out of business. The only exception is government schools, because you have to pay for them, even if they are terrible! That is what happens when you remove the free market from the equation.

[Mezonpotania]

But why would they do that? A large inspiration for the market to build a school would be to make a profit and employ people.

Lets say a county legislature is made up of people who don't like African Americans. The county seat (the largest city in the county) is majority non white but the county as a whole is majority white. The county legislature could decide we don't want to build schools in that city we we will only build them in the white areas. Would you be ok with that?

That is if you are talking about government, not the private industry!

Government will still make a profit out of that area because we have no choice. But the private industry would always want more money, thus they will be forced to build schools in that area, even if they don't like it.
If they abuse black kids, then their parents will choose a better school in that area, because some other company will build schools there!\

Also, YOU DID NOT BRING RACE INTO THIS!

[Post Nuclear Obliterated United States]

If our current schools weren't abandoned and crumbling down due to nuclear radiation, then yes, it should be compulsory.

[San Lumen]

Lets say a county legislature is made up of people who don't like African Americans. The county seat (the largest city in the county) is majority non white but the county as a whole is majority white. The county legislature could decide we don't want to build schools in that city we we will only build them in the white areas. Would you be ok with that?

It will be left to companies, not governments.
Also, look at private schools! They give a good education, and they only do that because they know they won't get paid if they don't! The better service you provide, the more people buy it! That is how the free market works!

Now, you will probably think that people will make crappy schools and everyone will pay for it, but they won't! Better schools will be made and the crappy ones will go out of business. The only exception is government schools, because you have to pay for them, even if they are terrible! That is what happens when you remove the free market from the equation.

so those who cant afford private schools will be out of luck? we should be worrying about schools being profitable over giving quality education?

Lets say a county legislature is made up of people who don't like African Americans. The county seat (the largest city in the county) is majority non white but the county as a whole is majority white. The county legislature could decide we don't want to build schools in that city we we will only build them in the white areas. Would you be ok with that?

That is if you are talking about government, not the private industry!

Government will still make a profit out of that area because we have no choice. But the private industry would always want more money, thus they will be forced to build schools in that area, even if they don't like it.
If they abuse black kids, then their parents will choose a better school in that area, because some other company will build schools there!\

Also, YOU DID NOT BRING RACE INTO THIS!

You really want a private company building schools? Whose going to decide the curriculum, the company building the school. I brought race in because its something that could happen under the OP's proposal.

[Kubra]

Yes, and the death penalty be instituted for truancy.

[Mezonpotania]

It will be left to companies, not governments.
Also, look at private schools! They give a good education, and they only do that because they know they won't get paid if they don't! The better service you provide, the more people buy it! That is how the free market works!

Now, you will probably think that people will make crappy schools and everyone will pay for it, but they won't! Better schools will be made and the crappy ones will go out of business. The only exception is government schools, because you have to pay for them, even if they are terrible! That is what happens when you remove the free market from the equation.

so those who cant afford private schools will be out of luck? we should be worrying about schools being profitable over giving quality education?

That is if you are talking about government, not the private industry!

Government will still make a profit out of that area because we have no choice. But the private industry would always want more money, thus they will be forced to build schools in that area, even if they don't like it.
If they abuse black kids, then their parents will choose a better school in that area, because some other company will build schools there!\

Also, YOU DID NOT BRING RACE INTO THIS!

You really want a private company building schools? Whose going to decide the curriculum, the company building the school. I brought race in because its something that could happen under the OP's proposal.

On the poor and education thing, you do know there is such thing as public charity right?
People will try to look good, or are actually good, so they will donate to charity.
Plus, there is also inheritance and finally, EARNING YOUR MONEY.
You should try and earn money or save up before having a child! Otherwise, don't have one.

If you are raped, or just have an unexpected pregnancy, take birth control or have an abortion.
DONE.

[Chersonisos]

Gosh, I can't possibly imagine the advantage of giving everyone at least a basic education.

Basically this. Private schools will aim for what is most profitable, and it's not as easy to "go wide" with schools and still create an environment that attracts decent teachers. Equality is at least giving relatively equal opportunities to succeed: exceptional students can still advance themselves with AP/IB courses, special ed students (which would be an /awful/ market in terms of profit, being relatively few and far between) can get technical training and the education they need given the current system. It works for everybody, and if you want to go to a private school, nobody will stop you.

[Esternial]

so those who cant afford private schools will be out of luck? we should be worrying about schools being profitable over giving quality education?

You really want a private company building schools? Whose going to decide the curriculum, the company building the school. I brought race in because its something that could happen under the OP's proposal.

On the poor and education thing, you do know there is such thing as public charity right?
People will try to look good, or are actually good, so they will donate to charity.
Plus, there is also inheritance and finally, EARNING YOUR MONEY.
You should try and earn money or save up before having a child! Otherwise, don't have one.

If you are raped, or just have an unexpected pregnancy, take birth control or have an abortion.
DONE.

So...you want to get what you want and force people to do X and Y so it can be viable.

"Free" market indeed.

[Kubra]

so those who cant afford private schools will be out of luck? we should be worrying about schools being profitable over giving quality education?

You really want a private company building schools? Whose going to decide the curriculum, the company building the school. I brought race in because its something that could happen under the OP's proposal.

On the poor and education thing, you do know there is such thing as public charity right?
People will try to look good, or are actually good, so they will donate to charity.
Plus, there is also inheritance and finally, EARNING YOUR MONEY.
You should try and earn money or save up before having a child! Otherwise, don't have one.

If you are raped, or just have an unexpected pregnancy, take birth control or have an abortion.
DONE.

It's kinda failure of the free market if it results in a shrinking fertility rate bruv

[Mezonpotania]

It will be left to companies, not governments.
Also, look at private schools! They give a good education, and they only do that because they know they won't get paid if they don't! The better service you provide, the more people buy it! That is how the free market works!

Now, you will probably think that people will make crappy schools and everyone will pay for it, but they won't! Better schools will be made and the crappy ones will go out of business. The only exception is government schools, because you have to pay for them, even if they are terrible! That is what happens when you remove the free market from the equation.

so those who cant afford private schools will be out of luck? we should be worrying about schools being profitable over giving quality education?

That is if you are talking about government, not the private industry!

Government will still make a profit out of that area because we have no choice. But the private industry would always want more money, thus they will be forced to build schools in that area, even if they don't like it.
If they abuse black kids, then their parents will choose a better school in that area, because some other company will build schools there!\

Also, YOU DID NOT BRING RACE INTO THIS!

You really want a private company building schools? Whose going to decide the curriculum, the company building the school. I brought race in because its something that could happen under the OP's proposal.

On the curriculum, the company should decide also.
You know why? Because the better the curriculum, the more people get it!

Also, on being poor, companies will also lower their own price because they want to beat the other companies.

Also, THEY WOULDNT BE POOR IF WE DIDNT HAVE THE TAXES TO PAY FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION!

[Mezonpotania]

On the poor and education thing, you do know there is such thing as public charity right?
People will try to look good, or are actually good, so they will donate to charity.
Plus, there is also inheritance and finally, EARNING YOUR MONEY.
You should try and earn money or save up before having a child! Otherwise, don't have one.

If you are raped, or just have an unexpected pregnancy, take birth control or have an abortion.
DONE.

So...you want to get what you want and force people to do X and Y so it can be viable.

"Free" market indeed.

Forcing them to do what?

There is also homeschooling and even then, wilderness survival.

[San Lumen]

so those who cant afford private schools will be out of luck? we should be worrying about schools being profitable over giving quality education?

You really want a private company building schools? Whose going to decide the curriculum, the company building the school. I brought race in because its something that could happen under the OP's proposal.

On the curriculum, the company should decide also.
You know why? Because the better the curriculum, the more people get it!

Also, on being poor, companies will also lower their own price because they want to beat the other companies.

Also, THEY WOULDNT BE POOR IF WE DIDNT HAVE THE TAXES TO PAY FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION!

So education should be about profit now. Got it and companies teach whatever they deem important.

[Chersonisos]

so those who cant afford private schools will be out of luck? we should be worrying about schools being profitable over giving quality education?

You really want a private company building schools? Whose going to decide the curriculum, the company building the school. I brought race in because its something that could happen under the OP's proposal.

On the curriculum, the company should decide also.
You know why? Because the better the curriculum, the more people get it!

Also, on being poor, companies will also lower their own price because they want to beat the other companies.

Also, THEY WOULDNT BE POOR IF WE DIDNT HAVE THE TAXES TO PAY FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION!

if I recall, tax money spent on education is 2.8%. The amount of tax dollars going to education is tiny. So is the tax rate for the poor - most of the burden falls on the richer

[Mezonpotania]

On the poor and education thing, you do know there is such thing as public charity right?
People will try to look good, or are actually good, so they will donate to charity.
Plus, there is also inheritance and finally, EARNING YOUR MONEY.
You should try and earn money or save up before having a child! Otherwise, don't have one.

If you are raped, or just have an unexpected pregnancy, take birth control or have an abortion.
DONE.

So...you want to get what you want and force people to do X and Y so it can be viable.

"Free" market indeed.

Also, alpacas.

Softest animals alive, and an RP organization.

[Mezonpotania]

On the curriculum, the company should decide also.
You know why? Because the better the curriculum, the more people get it!

Also, on being poor, companies will also lower their own price because they want to beat the other companies.

Also, THEY WOULDNT BE POOR IF WE DIDNT HAVE THE TAXES TO PAY FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION!

So education should be about profit now. Got it and companies teach whatever they deem important.

And if what they deem important is what parents deem important, then they will go there, if otherwise, they won't.
Also, if nobody has a good curriculum, then parents will choose homeschooling.

[Mezonpotania]

On the curriculum, the company should decide also.
You know why? Because the better the curriculum, the more people get it!

Also, on being poor, companies will also lower their own price because they want to beat the other companies.

Also, THEY WOULDNT BE POOR IF WE DIDNT HAVE THE TAXES TO PAY FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION!

if I recall, tax money spent on education is 2.8%. The amount of tax dollars going to education is tiny. So is the tax rate for the poor - most of the burden falls on the richer

So the people who earn their money and Donald Trump have to pay more percentage of their income than the poor?

[San Lumen]

So education should be about profit now. Got it and companies teach whatever they deem important.

And if what they deem important is what parents deem important, then they will go there, if otherwise, they won't.
Also, if nobody has a good curriculum, then parents will choose homeschooling.

So basically companies get to choose the curriculum for their school and is the state providing the homeschool curriculum or is that up to the parent too?

[Imperializt Russia]

Usually whenever I try to complain about stuff, I make a fool of myself. Now for a controversial topic that probably won't make me sound stupid. Anyway, so, I am personally against compulsory school due to the fact that people should be responsible for getting their own education.

Why?

If schooling is left to be a persons decision, it will probably then go back to being left to the free market. This would be good because it could allow schooling to be competitive and create supply and demand for schooling.

The model is probably flawed, because demand is infinite and supply (number of teachers and school funding) isn't brilliant.
How would "free market forces" create "competitiveness" in schools? They're not a fucking grocer's. It's a school.

Schooling is compulsory already. A child must be offered an education, and an education of a reasonable standard. Even homeschooled children are supposed to be held to this standard, even in the US.