[SUBMITTED] Primum Non Nocere

[Ransium]

A new and improved draft! I should probably cut 2 but leaving it for now. Probably need a new effects line for 3 due to the dreaded commas but leaving it for the moment.

Title: Primum Non Nocere

text: The @@DEMONYM@@ Medical Association has declared that participating in a lethal injection is a violation of the Hippocratic Oath and grounds for disbarment. Following this development, a recent execution had to be canceled when all medical personal with the appropriate credentials to administer the execution refused to participate.

valid_if: follow up to 631-1

option: "Acck! Vat a bunch of babies!" Exclaims Dr. @@RANDOMLASTNAME@@, your Minister of Mad Science, wearing @@HIS@@ trademark blood-splattered lab coat. "Zey can't even put murders to death? Sure, my doctorate might be in zeoretical physics, but I've been performing quite a few distentions of late; I'm sure I could figure out how to administer a simple IV drip."
effect: executions often take hours as amateurs attempt to find veins

option: "I have an easier solution," utters @@RANDOMNAME@@, @@CAPITAL@@'s no-nonsense Chief of Police. "Make it the law that doctors have to participate in whatever medical procedures the government asks for. If those hippies want to continue to make their silly protests, you could make the punishment for not complying 'Punishment' with a capital 'P', if you catch my drift. Poetic justice, eh?"
effect: Brancaland has an unusual surplus of doctors with @@a@@ @@DEMONYM@@ accent

option: "When are you going to accept that there is no good way to kill people?" yells Dr. @@RANDOMLASTNAME@@, head of the @@DENONYM@@ Medical Association. "That doctors refuse to participate in the act should tell you something of the act's value. Stop fooling yourself into thinking you're 'executing people humanely', and join the rest of the civilized world in outlawing the barbaric practice of capital punishment once and for all."
effect: at his doctor's advice @@LEADER@@ has decided to exercise more, eat more vegetables, and outlaw capital punishment

option: "Why are we so focused on the methods?" asks @@NAME@@'s lead executioner. "I know a method of execution that requires far less expertise. Let's just hang these scum like the good old days and be done with it. I guarantee you @@NAME@@ isn't going to run out of people who know how to tie a rope."
effect: the hangman came to @@NAME@@ smelling of gold and blood

[Australian rePublic]

I like your draft, but would the public even know which company manfucturers death penalty drugs? And if even they did, can't they find a manufacturer who does it exclusively, or you know, create their own. Nice issue, however!

[Caracasus]

I like your draft, but would the public even know which company manfucturers death penalty drugs? And if even they did, can't they find a manufacturer who does it exclusively, or you know, create their own. Nice issue, however!

It's already happened. The American justice system is suffering (hah!) a shortage of drugs used in lethal injections as more and more companies simply refuse to manufacture it: http://www.csg.org/pubs/capitolideas/en ... e65_4.aspx

Possible option Ranisum, seeing as some of these essentially have the same effect (government gets the drugs some way or another):

[option] ''Such a waste'' mutters your minister for Colonial affairs. ''Death Row is full of healthy, strong and capable prisoners and we just kill them! A senseless waste of talent, especially when there's a shortage of labour over in our colonies after that terrifying business with the natives... How about we commute their sentence to transportation to the colonies? They'll be contributing to our nation, we can get away with paying them peanuts and if they ever show their face back here then we'll be within our rights to shoot 'em!''

[Australian rePublic]

I like your draft, but would the public even know which company manfucturers death penalty drugs? And if even they did, can't they find a manufacturer who does it exclusively, or you know, create their own. Nice issue, however!

It's already happened. The American justice system is suffering (hah!) a shortage of drugs used in lethal injections as more and more companies simply refuse to manufacture it: http://www.csg.org/pubs/capitolideas/en ... e65_4.aspx

Possible option Ranisum, seeing as some of these essentially have the same effect (government gets the drugs some way or another):

[option] ''Such a waste'' mutters your minister for Colonial affairs. ''Death Row is full of healthy, strong and capable prisoners and we just kill them! A senseless waste of talent, especially when there's a shortage of labour over in our colonies after that terrifying business with the natives... How about we commute their sentence to transportation to the colonies? They'll be contributing to our nation, we can get away with paying them peanuts and if they ever show their face back here then we'll be within our rights to shoot 'em!''

Penial transport, now, that's original...

[Caracasus]

It's already happened. The American justice system is suffering (hah!) a shortage of drugs used in lethal injections as more and more companies simply refuse to manufacture it: http://www.csg.org/pubs/capitolideas/en ... e65_4.aspx

Possible option Ranisum, seeing as some of these essentially have the same effect (government gets the drugs some way or another):

[option] ''Such a waste'' mutters your minister for Colonial affairs. ''Death Row is full of healthy, strong and capable prisoners and we just kill them! A senseless waste of talent, especially when there's a shortage of labour over in our colonies after that terrifying business with the natives... How about we commute their sentence to transportation to the colonies? They'll be contributing to our nation, we can get away with paying them peanuts and if they ever show their face back here then we'll be within our rights to shoot 'em!''

Penial transport, now, that's original...

I kinda thought of it (and with an issue you were drafting a while back) because of CWA's re-drafting of issue options to make it more inclusive to Communist nations. Thing is, the vast majority of the issues and options tend to focus on broadly liberal, broadly democratic governments. I like the fact that recently we've seen drafts for feudal nations and communist nations and reckon that opening up options and issues to the more unusual forms of govt. would only help...

[Australian rePublic]

Penial transport, now, that's original...

I kinda thought of it (and with an issue you were drafting a while back) because of CWA's re-drafting of issue options to make it more inclusive to Communist nations. Thing is, the vast majority of the issues and options tend to focus on broadly liberal, broadly democratic governments. I like the fact that recently we've seen drafts for feudal nations and communist nations and reckon that opening up options and issues to the more unusual forms of govt. would only help...

Which issue was that? Anyway, yep. But, that would assume @@NAME@@ has colonies in the first place. I think penial transport would be a great issue in and of itself. Except maybe from the colony's perspective (we don't have any issues which assume that @@NAME@@ is a colony, do we?), but it could also work well here. Maybe with an option validity of must have colony/ies

[Caracasus]

I kinda thought of it (and with an issue you were drafting a while back) because of CWA's re-drafting of issue options to make it more inclusive to Communist nations. Thing is, the vast majority of the issues and options tend to focus on broadly liberal, broadly democratic governments. I like the fact that recently we've seen drafts for feudal nations and communist nations and reckon that opening up options and issues to the more unusual forms of govt. would only help...

Which issue was that? Anyway, yep. But, that would assume @@NAME@@ has colonies in the first place. I think penial transport would be a great issue in and of itself. Except maybe from the colony's perspective (we don't have any issues which assume that @@NAME@@ is a colony, do we?), but it could also work well here. Maybe with an option validity of must have colony/ies

There's Brazilistan that can be conquered and turned into a colony. Thanks for picking that up though, this would have to be a validity check.

But no, there aren't any issues that I can recall (other than that one) that specifically deal with imperial conquest... perhaps time to draft one. Gunboat Diplomacy....

[The Atlae Isles]

Option 3 should note that the injections should be contaminated or have a bit less quality, as they're being sold on the black market.

Speaking of black market, you should probably have an option about funding amateurs to make their own medicines.

[Trotterdam]

Some simple corrections:

blood splattered lab coat

"Blood-splattered".

"I can have @@NAME@@'s lethal injection drug storage will be quietly replenished overnight"

One of these needs to go.

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seeing as some of these essentially have the same effect (government gets the drugs some way or another):

And I think this is the main problem here.

I can see some differences in the options ("throw money at it", "throw laws at it", "cheat") but the overall effect is rather similar and it's not that much of a decision.

I think there should be an option voiced by someone from one of the companies that's staging the protest.

[Ransium]

Yeah it made more sense as a follow up to the violet mile choice 1 where you could be reasonably certain the nation really wanted the death penalty and really wanted lethal injection, but the text of that doesn't gel nicely with this issue. I think I'll probably just abandon this draft. Feel free to pick over its bones other authors.

[Egyptian Pharocracy]

Agreed with Trotterdam's last comment:

I think there should be an option voiced by someone from one of the companies that's staging the protest.

It would make the debate more entertaining to read if there was an impassioned or outraged argument made by one of the company CEOs for their position on the matter.

And note: my nation is actually in favor of capital punishment, so we'd probably pick the "Screw it, hang 'em! No - wait: let's impale them!" option. Hey, if it was good enough for Vlad Draculea, its good enough for us!

Plus, I really, really like the "the hangman came to town smelling of blood and gold" reference. Nice touch.

[Ransium]

Okay, I might attempt a drastic rewrite this weekend if I have time.

[Ransium]

Okay a drastic rewrite in the works. A follow up to violet mile-1, the dilemma is, as the title currently more accurately implies, about doctors refusal to participate in lethal injection. Will try to rewrite it this weekend if not sooner.

[Ransium]

New draft. I sweat it's what the title wanted the issue to be about from the get-go.

[Egyptian Pharocracy]

A new and improved draft! I should probably cut 2 but leaving it for now. Probably need a new effects line for 3 due to the dreaded commas but leaving it for the moment.

*snip!*

option: "When are you going to accept that their there is no good way to kill people?" yells Dr. @@RANDOMLASTNAME@@, head of the @@DENONYM@@ Medical Association. "That doctors refuse to participate in the act should tell you something of the acts value. Stop fooling yourself into thinking your 'executing people humanely', and join the rest of the civilized world in outlawing the barbaric practice of capital punishment once and for all."
effect: at his doctors advice @@LEADER@@ has decided to exercise more, eat more vegetables, and outlaw capital punishment

*snip!*

Cool. Looks good.

Caught a typo in the quoted option and highlighted it along with the edit. You used a homophone confusion: "their" should be "there" in that instance, I believe.

Other than that: I like the effects tagline for Option 1.

And you kept the "Hangman blood and gold" tagline. Yay!

I think this draft works. Minus the typo, of course.

[Trotterdam]

Apostrophes. Please use them.

option: "When are you going to accept that their is no good way to kill people?" yells Dr. @@RANDOMLASTNAME@@, head of the @@DENONYM@@ Medical Association. "That doctors refuse to participate in the act should tell you something of the acts value. Stop fooling yourself into thinking your 'executing people humanely', and join the rest of the civilized world in outlawing the barbaric practice of capital punishment once and for all."
effect: at his doctors advice @@LEADER@@ has decided to exercise more, eat more vegetables, and outlaw capital punishment

"There", "act's", "you're", "doctor's".

effect: Brancaland has an unusual surplus of doctors with a @@DEMONYM@@ accent

Don't forget to use the "a"/"an" macro here.

A new and improved draft! I should probably cut 2 but leaving it for now.

I like that option. I mean, it's evil and I hate it, but it still fits the issue.

[Egyptian Pharocracy]

*sigh* I must be still half asleep. I completely missed the other homophone confusions in the same paragraph while calling out the one. Good catch - thanks, Trotter.

[Ransium]

Apostrophes. Please use them.

Noooo!

Fine...

[Ransium]

I will probably submit this over the weekend if there are no further comments.