How to Appoint a WA Delegate in Reigon?

[Arcticwind]

Okay so my friend applied for the WA Delegate and has been approved. He asked me to put him in the reigonal WA Delegate position and I agreeed. However, when I try to promote him to the Delegate position, the checkmark is greyed out and I can't select it. What should I do?

-Arcticwind

[The Gipper]

The nation with the most endorsements in the region will become the Delegate. You can't appoint an RO to that position.

You'll need another WA Member Nation in your region, remember only one per player is allowed. One WA member endorses the other and then at next game update the endorsed will become Delegate.

[Leutria]

And to go in slightly more detail, while yes, the nation with the most WA endorsements becomes the delegate, this is only updated twice a day, so it can take up to 12 hours to go into effect. These updates occur between 12-1 Eastern time, both AM and PM.

But ya, the important part is it is the nation with the most endorsements, but it is not instant and may take up to 12 hours to take effect.

[Eyrrdom]

Exactly how many endorsements are required to become delegate?

[Abhichandra]

Exactly how many endorsements are required to become delegate?

At least one endorsement (the WA Delegate needs to have the most in the region)

[Eyrrdom]

Exactly how many endorsements are required to become delegate?

At least one endorsement (the WA Delegate needs to have the most in the region)

And if you are tied for endorsements?

[Shady Invasions]

At least one endorsement (the WA Delegate needs to have the most in the region)

And if you are tied for endorsements?

I can't remember who said it, but he/she said, "Its complicate". That, of course, only is in the situation in which the two nations gain endos at the same time. It does not apply to a situation in which a delegate has 2 endos, and another nation comes afterward and gets two endos. In that situation, the delegate stays the same.

[Frisbeeteria]

It's not that complicated. The one who got endorsed first with the tying endo wins the tie.

That, of course, only is in the situation in which the two nations gain endos at the same time.

That doesn't happen. The server processes them sequentially. Even if it's within a hundredth of a second, one of them was first.

[NationHelper]

It's not that complicated. The one who got endorsed first with the tying endo wins the tie.

That, of course, only is in the situation in which the two nations gain endos at the same time.

That doesn't happen. The server processes them sequentially. Even if it's within a hundredth of a second, one of them was first.

Ah..... So the server knows it before the update?

[Drasnia]

It's not that complicated. The one who got endorsed first with the tying endo wins the tie.


That doesn't happen. The server processes them sequentially. Even if it's within a hundredth of a second, one of them was first.

Ah..... So the server knows it before the update?

More like the system has all the data but to put it all together properly, it needs to go through each nation and region systematically to ensure total accuracy.

[Frankland]

It's not that complicated. The one who got endorsed first with the tying endo wins the tie.

That, of course, only is in the situation in which the two nations gain endos at the same time.

That doesn't happen. The server processes them sequentially. Even if it's within a hundredth of a second, one of them was first.

I seem to recall it being more complicated than that, actually.

For instance a tie could result when incumbent delegate resigns WA / leaves region / CTEs. So the delegate position should pass to whoever has the next highest endorsements, but two nations tied for that spot could have been tied for weeks. Also a tie might not come about because someone got new endorsements - it could be that several updates ago someone endorsing one of the nation's moved out of region - knocking someone down to a tie with a nation they were previously leading.

Update 1:
Delegateland: 17 endos
Nation1: 16 endos
Nation2: 13 endos

Update 2:
Since last update a new member has endorsed Delegateland & Nation2.
Delegateland: 18 endos
Nation1: 16 endos
Nation2: 14 endos

Update 3:
Since last update a WA Member nation has moved out of region, and another has CTEd. Both were endorsing Delegate & Nation1.
Delegateland: 16 endos
Nation1: 14 endos
Nation2: 14 endos

Update 4:
This update Delegateland CTEs. He was endorsing both Nation1 & Nation2
Nation1: 13 endos
Nation2: 13 endos

So who becomes delegate? As I recall- the way the game solves some of these ties can be pretty squirrelly. Or at least can look like it - especially when there is a month between each of the above events so no one remembers how the tie came about anyway.

[Frisbeeteria]

I seem to recall it being more complicated than that, actually.

No, you're just making it more complicated.

Update hits region. Stuff happens, including idle nations CTE followed by endo count of surviving WA nations. Near the end, the server selects the Delegate. In case of a tie, nation with the [latest:oldest]* endorsement wins.

* [latest:oldest] meaning endos are stored in date order, so the system only has to count them and make a note of the date of the last one.

[Luna Amore]

I seem to recall it being more complicated than that, actually.

No, you're just making it more complicated.

Update hits region. Stuff happens, including idle nations CTE followed by endo count of surviving WA nations. Near the end, the server selects the Delegate. In case of a tie, nation with the [latest:oldest]* endorsement wins.

* [latest:oldest] meaning endos are stored in date order, so the system only has to count them and make a note of the date of the last one.

Granted, it may have changed in the last 8 years, but it is still linked in the Tech FAQ.

The official FAQ says nothing of the sort. Any other FAQ is maintained by people who don't have access to the code and are thus only guessing.

A tie goes to the current delegate. If the delegate is not involved in the tie, then it's... complicated. Suffice it to say that the criterion is non-obvious, and I'm going to change it now to something more deterministic.

[Topid]

I seem to recall it being more complicated than that, actually.

No, you're just making it more complicated.

Update hits region. Stuff happens, including idle nations CTE followed by endo count of surviving WA nations. Near the end, the server selects the Delegate. In case of a tie, nation with the [latest:oldest]* endorsement wins.

* [latest:oldest] meaning endos are stored in date order, so the system only has to count them and make a note of the date of the last one.

Thanks Fris! To my knowledge site staff had never spelled that out before, always choosing to be more cagey like the above mentioned "it's complicated".

We can now confirm UDL's exam was incorrect on this point all this time later.

[Frisbeeteria]

Thanks Fris! To my knowledge site staff had never spelled that out before, always choosing to be more cagey like the above mentioned "it's complicated".

We can now confirm UDL's exam was incorrect on this point all this time later.

Just to be completely clear, "site staff" (me) has never seen the code nor discussed it with any admin. The above is purely speculative ... though I suspect it's entirely correct.

So no, you can't confirm anything.

[Wrezymtronushylkka]

And if the Region only has one nation in WA?

[Frisbeeteria]

And if the Region only has one nation in WA?

Then you need to make friends and get more than one WA nation in the region. Don't make another WA nation yourself, or we'll eject both of them and ban you from the WA for a year.

Also, don't bump old threads.

[Chilaman]

The nation with the most endorsements in the region will become the Delegate. You can't appoint an RO to that position.

You'll need another WA Member Nation in your region, remember only one per player is allowed. One WA member endorses the other and then at next game update the endorsed will become Delegate.

How do I endorse someone?

[Kyrusia]

Read the FAQ and avoid gravedigging.