SC Questions & Answers

[Ivelboria]

What happens when a region either gets commended or condemned?

[Armaros]

What happens when a region either gets commended or condemned?

A badge will permanently display on their region page.

That's it.

[Ivelboria]

What happens when a region either gets commended or condemned?

A badge will permanently display on their region page.

That's it.

Ah, ok.

[Bears Armed]

A badge will permanently display on their region page.

That's it.

Ah, ok.

The badge is a clickable link to the resolution, so that people can see why it was granted.

[Artsotska]

Is mentioning UCRs legal? It seems like I saw it in other resolutions.

Must admit it always sounds like a 4(c) violation to me, but I can’t find a specific ruling to that effect. Might want an SC Mod to confirm or not.

If you supposedly saw it in other resolutions, then I can guarantee that it's legal, otherwise it wouldn't be a resolution.

[Lord Dominator]

Must admit it always sounds like a 4(c) violation to me, but I can’t find a specific ruling to that effect. Might want an SC Mod to confirm or not.

If you supposedly saw it in other resolutions, then I can guarantee that it's legal, otherwise it wouldn't be a resolution.

Usage in past resolutions does not guarantee present legality, for a number of reasons.

[Kuriko]

If you supposedly saw it in other resolutions, then I can guarantee that it's legal, otherwise it wouldn't be a resolution.

Usage in past resolutions does not guarantee present legality, for a number of reasons.

For instance, before the creation of Rule 4 personal pronouns and mentioning the player behind the nation was legal. Since Rule 4 was enacted it has been illegal to do so, however all the pre-R4 proposals are still considered legal.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

Must admit it always sounds like a 4(c) violation to me, but I can’t find a specific ruling to that effect. Might want an SC Mod to confirm or not.

If you supposedly saw it in other resolutions, then I can guarantee that it's legal, otherwise it wouldn't be a resolution.

Nope, in SC#1 the operative clause condemns Macedon and the Macedonian Empire and is legal. For any resolution since such a clause would be an R3 violation.

[Himyer]

How do I get endorsements?

[Eumaeus]

How do I get endorsements?

There are only two primary that I can think of. The first is posting on your regional message board asking if people would be willing to endorse you, and the second is endorsing other WA nations in your region and hoping they endorse you back.

[Kuriko]

Question for moderation:

Is RMB still considered a legal term, or not? According to this post by Sedgistan, it's considered a legal term under Rule 4. This post is even linked to in the Compendium of Mod Rulings. On Fris's most recent ruling on the illegal proposal Commend Aumeltopia part of his ruling is an illegality under R4(c) due to the term RMB. So, is it still a legal term or no? Proposal is below just in case it gets removed.

Security Council Proposal
ID: goundal_1567358738

Commend Aumeltopia
A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.

Category: Commendation

Nominee: Aumeltopia

Proposed by: Goundal

ACKNOLWEDGING that this nation is the very new delegate of the South Pacific and it has worked hard to gain that place,

NOTICING that this nation has been very active in the RMB and has been entertaining for new nations,

STATING that Aumeltopia has kept the South Pacificin a very good condition since the first second of her term,

Hereby commends Aumeltopia.

[Frisbeeteria]

I wasn't aware of the Sedge ruling, so I didn't intend to override it. The proposal was still illegal for "her", of course.

[Kuriko]

I wasn't aware of the Sedge ruling, so I didn't intend to override it. The proposal was still illegal for "her", of course.

Thanks Fris, and of course!

Edit: I wish you were still on the WA Discord, we had a huge debate about it lol

[Bunker 51]

AS NEWLY ASSIGNED DELEGATE OF MY REGION
What privileges does being WA Delegate give a Nation-State outside of its region?
Do I now have more influence on WA Happenings?
And is there any way to communicate/propose to other Delegates?

[Eumaeus]

AS NEWLY ASSIGNED DELEGATE OF MY REGION
What privileges does being WA Delegate give a Nation-State outside of its region?

Hi there, welcome to the Security Council. World Assembly Delegates have the extra ability of being able to approve proposals to the General Assembly and the Security Councils. Anyone can submit a WA proposal (as long as they have 2 endorsements), but a proposal requires a certain number of delegate approvals to make it to vote.

Do I now have more influence on WA Happenings?

It depends on what you mean. People won't automatically respect you more or listen to you if you are a delegate, but delegates' votes count for more than normal WA nations. If a delegate has 5 endorsements they cast 6 votes, 10 to 11, 100 to 101. You currently have 3 endorsements, so it will count as 4 votes.

And is there any way to communicate/propose to other Delegates?

You can participate (though not only with other delegates) in debate or the drafting of proposals either here in the Security Council forum or in the General Assembly forum. Each body has its own powers, and you can find information on them in their respective forums.

[Bunker 51]

Thank you, Eumaeus.

[StAnIsLaS]

[Marxist Germany]

:ugeek:

Please do not spam.

[Imperium Anglorum]

If I said something like the following:

The Security Council ... finding that it is an immense demonstration of one’s character to remain committed to one’s moral and philosophical beliefs even in the face of overwhelming opposition ...

would it be a violation of Rule 4? I would think not, as it doesn't break an "in-character" wall, but rather, simply states a broad belief of how one's character can be demonstrated.

[Ransium]

The sentence is not inherently rule breaking IMO, but could certainly be depending on the context, especially WRT R4(b)

[Imperium Anglorum]

The sentence is not inherently rule breaking IMO, but could certainly be depending on the context, especially WRT R4(b)

Similarly, a draft I'm reviewing wants to use a theatre metaphor, saying something along the lines of "Believing that one's contribution to theatre ought to be judged by the quality by which a character is brought to life". This too seems to be a statement about theatre-going and the thespian in general rather than breaking character.

[Rly8h]

I don't know if anyone asked yet, but I asked on TSP's RMB, and no one knew, so: Why can a nation propose to commend themselves or their own region or delegate, or other similar events? I ask because only one of the current SC proposals (https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1580106290) appears to NOT have bias. It seems like it should be illegal to promote yourself via the WA.

[SherpDaWerp]

I don't know if anyone asked yet, but I asked on TSP's RMB, and no one knew, so: Why can a nation propose to commend themselves or their own region or delegate, or other similar events? I ask because only one of the current SC proposals (https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1580106290) appears to NOT have bias. It seems like it should be illegal to promote yourself via the WA.

Thing is, the SC is all about commending or condemning people... that's its job. You can't make an international law in the GA mention a specific person because that delegitimises the law, but you can make a SC resolution mention a specific person because that's its entire purpose. And whether it's explicitly against the rules or not, self-commendations or self-condemnations don't tend to even make it past quorum.

Commend Utopiaville - 17 out of 68 approvals
Commend Crushing Our Enemies - Author knows the nominee, but it's definitely not the same person, so it's not "promoting yourself"
Repeal Liberate Confederation of Corrupt Dictators - 8 out of 68 approvals, plus it's the thousandth such resolution to have been proposed of which none have passed.
Commend Finlandia - 6 out of 68 approvals

[Sedgistan]

I don't know if anyone asked yet, but I asked on TSP's RMB, and no one knew, so: Why can a nation propose to commend themselves or their own region or delegate, or other similar events? I ask because only one of the current SC proposals (https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1580106290) appears to NOT have bias. It seems like it should be illegal to promote yourself via the WA.

The SC is deliberately minimalistic when it comes to rules. For the most part it's left up to WA members to determine their standards. Don't like nations commending themselves or their region-mates? Persuade others, and get them to vote against such proposals.

[Rly8h]

I don't know if anyone asked yet, but I asked on TSP's RMB, and no one knew, so: Why can a nation propose to commend themselves or their own region or delegate, or other similar events? I ask because only one of the current SC proposals (https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1580106290) appears to NOT have bias. It seems like it should be illegal to promote yourself via the WA.

The SC is deliberately minimalistic when it comes to rules. For the most part it's left up to WA members to determine their standards. Don't like nations commending themselves or their region-mates? Persuade others, and get them to vote against such proposals.

Alrighty, sounds good. I was simply curious, as it seems to be against the whole concept of "Security" at first glance, but I suppose that does make sense.