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Right Wing Discussion Thread IX: The Right Man's Burden

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Was the Reformation a good thing?

1 - Yes.
151
52%
2 - Neutral.
76
26%
3 - No.
66
23%
 
Total votes : 293

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Right Wing Discussion Thread IX: The Right Man's Burden

Postby Herskerstad » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:12 pm


The Right Wing Discussion Thread
Part IX
The Right Man's Burden



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"Here I stand. I can do no other. God help me. Amen. " - Martin Luther


The dynastic cycle has taken place, taking on the mandate of heaven we have have claimed legitimacy for ourselves in the endeavour to establish peace and harmony over these lands. A place to erect walls to keep the uncivilised out, ever growing and living walls to which only helicopters can scale. A place where the new and old collide as we seek the Faustian spirit to embrace the past and build for the future, or if we feel like it simply manifest destiny over those whom do not have our shiny guns.

Welcome all to the Right-Wing Discussion Thread (RWDT), a place where we discuss all matters appertaining to the right wing-spirit. This is the ninth instalment of the thread making it one of NS's most beloved and controversial spots to pull engage in deep discussions, at times debates, bantz ect. We ask the users to go by a dual-principle of being lenient towards the topic, but also understanding if things really get too off-topic and if necessary correct themselves.

Suggestions for improvements, changes, or additions is as always welcome.

Relevant subjects for discussion include:

  • The politics, philosophies, and ideologies of the right.
  • Right-wing perspectives on economics and political economy.
  • News and history relevant to the political Right.
  • Right-wing responses to current events.
  • Right-wing perspectives on social and economic problems.
  • Political, social, cultural, and economic problems and their solutions according to the political Right.
  • The problems facing particular Right-wing movements or the political right in general, and how to resolve them.

Previous Iterations:
Part I
Part II
Part III
Part IV
Part V
Part VI
Part VII
Part VIII

Poll History:

Poll 1: Is Cultural Marxism a Problem? (Jochistan) - 54% Voted Yes
Poll 2: Favourite Right-Wing Politicians? (Kauthar) - 25% voted Donald Trump
Poll 3: Favourite Right-Wing Autocrats (Unnamed Island State) - 45% voted Vladamir Putin
Poll 4: Best Right-Wing Countries (Kauthar) - Putin's Russia 21%
Poll 5: Best Right-Wing Idealogue (Legitimists)

Poll 1: What Right-Wing Ideology do you adhere to? - 55 votes for Libertarian
Poll 2 Favourite Right-Wing Economic System - 31 votes for Neoliberalism
Poll 3: Favourite Right-Wing Dictator - 18 Votes Kai Shek and Pinochet
Poll 4: Favourite Right-Wing Dictator PART 2 - David Cameron 49%
Poll 5: Prominent Right-Wing NSers/Favourite Future Right-Wing Dictator - Old Tyrannia 39 votes/29%
Poll 6: Favourite Fictional Right-Wing Dictators - Emperor Palpatine (Star Wars) 43 Votes/23%

Poll 0.1: Continue the Old Poll Y/N
Poll 1: Favourite Right-Wing Ideologies - Libertarianism/Minarchism

Poll 1: Favorite Centre-Right Parties - Republican Party (US) 39%
Poll 2: What should be the most important core value of a state ideology? Liberty 47%

Poll 1: Which piece of literature has been most significant to the development of right-wing ideology? - Reflections on the Revolution in France 68/237 (29%)
Poll 2: Favourite constitutional/government models? - US 166/528 (31%)

Poll 1: If you could reverse the outcomes of one of these events, which one would it be? - The Russian Revolution 116/343 (34%)
Poll 2: If you could ensure the survival of one empire at their height, which would it be? - The Roman Empire 119/495 (24%)

Do you drink alcohol and what's your opinion of it?
No, and I have a negative opinion of it. It should remain legal. - 57 (36%)
Total Votes: 157 (Recorded 09/01/2017)

Poll 1: Which of the following Trump picks are you most happy with? And are you overall satisfied with them? - James Norman Mattis 92/384 Terrible picks, what have we gotten ourselves into. 97/384
Poll 2: Is Islam compatible with western civilisation? No - 102/330. If reformed yes - 102/330
Poll 3: Which side, for the sake of mankind, should have won WW1? The Allied Powers - 225/385

Reading Suggestions:
If you’re looking to read something relevant to right-wing politics, consider reading some of the texts below. If you think something’s missing from this list, please post a recommendation. If you think something should be removed, please explain why.

  • ”Leviathan”
    — Thomas Hobbes. (Read Here)
  • ”Two Treatises of Government”
    — John Locke. (Read Here)
  • ”The Protestant Work Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism.”
    — Max Weber.
  • ”Reflections on the Revolution in France”
    — Edmund Burke. (Read Here)
  • ”The Wealth Of Nations”
    — Adam Smith. (Read Here)
  • ”Essay on the Generative Principle of Political Constitutions and other Human Institutions”
    — Joseph de Maistre. (Read Here)
  • ”Rerum novarum”
    — Pope Leo XIII. (Read Here)
  • ”The Crisis of the Modern World”
    — Rene Guenon. (Read Here)
  • ”The Doctrine Of Fascism”
    — Benito Mussolini. (Read Here)
  • ”The Conservative Mind”
    — Russell Kirk.


If you’re interested in discussing matters relating to the political left, there’s also a Left-Wing Discussion Thread.
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Postby Nioya » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:15 pm

Am I left wing or right wing? Is my nation left wing or right wing?
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Postby Grand Britannia » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:16 pm

Godbless the thread is no longer under degenerate, communist hands.
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Postby The East Marches II » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:17 pm

That new thread smell
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Postby Individual Thought Patterns » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:18 pm

Thank you for couping Conscentia.
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Postby Neo Balka » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:18 pm

RWDTians and Fellow americans.

my question still stands.

who is a better union?

The united states of America?

or the Europoorian union of poverty ramps?
The mere fact that i pissed someone off either means i stood for something or i said something offensive.
in this day and age it's both.
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Postby The East Marches II » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:18 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:Godbless the thread is no longer under degenerate, communist hands.


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Postby Old Tyrannia » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:19 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:Godbless the thread is no longer under degenerate, communist hands.

Eh, Herskerstad might not be communist but they're still pretty left-wing.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:19 pm

Nioya wrote:Am I left wing or right wing? Is my nation left wing or right wing?


What exactly are your political beliefs?
Organizations I like
Fully Informed Jury Association, Electronic Frontier Foundation, Knife Rights, American Civil Liberties Union, Gun Owners of America
American nationalist, anti communist, evil right winger
Support the GOA instead of the NRA

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Postby Herskerstad » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:20 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:Godbless the thread is no longer under degenerate, communist hands.


Yes, Lord Protector Herk has saved us all


Oh right, the titles, I almost forgot.
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Postby Herskerstad » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:20 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:Godbless the thread is no longer under degenerate, communist hands.

Eh, Herskerstad might not be communist but they're still pretty left-wing.


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Postby The East Marches II » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:25 pm

Neo Balka wrote:RWDTians and Fellow americans.

my question still stands.

who is a better union?

The united states of America?

or the Europoorian union of poverty ramps?


M O O N L A N D E R S
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Postby Grand Britannia » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:28 pm

Neo Balka wrote:RWDTians and Fellow americans.

my question still stands.

who is a better union?

The united states of America?

or the Europoorian union of poverty ramps?


Still the CSA.
The East Marches II wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:Godbless the thread is no longer under degenerate, communist hands.


Yes, Lord Protector Herk has saved us all


God Save the Lord Protector.

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:Godbless the thread is no longer under degenerate, communist hands.

Eh, Herskerstad might not be communist but they're still pretty left-wing.


Preferable to being a full commie, tbf.
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Postby Minzerland II » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:29 pm

I daresay that this is the greatest right-wing Revolution/Coup/Uprising to ever occur. This should have been on the previous poll, tbh.
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Postby Benuty » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:32 pm

Wow ten pages earlier must be a new trend.
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Postby Conscentia » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:32 pm

Minzerland II wrote:I daresay that this is the greatest right-wing Revolution/Coup/Uprising to ever occur. This should have been on the previous poll, tbh.

"Autumn Of Nations". Close enough.
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Postby Nioya » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:33 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Nioya wrote:Am I left wing or right wing? Is my nation left wing or right wing?


What exactly are your political beliefs?

My nation reflects my political views so you can just read that if you want. But I'll try writing up my ideas and summarizing them here.

Well first of all I'd say I reject democracy, giving a plato style critique. I think the state should be run by intellectuals trained in the academy, with an emphasis on philosophy and maybe literary classics. I think the best government would be an autocracy, but probably a non-hereditary one.

Economically, I think I'm very left wing. I'd probably support a highly regulated economy, at the very least, and I would also go as far as advocating a sort of democratic socialism. I'm also a very big environmentalist, and I think even any concern about economic viability can't compare to the importance of helping the environment.

I guess besides that, I'll try to list social issues

Abortion: Against
Gay marriage: For
Immigration: Against
Drug decriminalization: For
Gun laws: Neutral I guess
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:36 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
Yes, Lord Protector Herk has saved us all


God Save the Lord Protector Queen.

Fixed that for you.

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Postby Conscentia » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:38 pm

Nioya wrote:[...]Economically, I think I'm very left wing. I'd probably support a highly regulated economy, at the very least, and I would also go as far as advocating a sort of democratic socialism. [...]

I doubt it. "Democratic socialism" means a democratic state with economic democracy, and you don't seem to be a fan of democracy. Government regulation of the economy isn't socialism, nor is it necessarily left-wing.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:38 pm

Somebody once told me the East Marches is gonna troll me
I ain't the rightest guy in the thread
He was looking kind of dumb with his finger and his thumb
With his grip on a stick in an aircraft
Well the bans start coming and they don't stop coming
Fed to the rules and my posts are not cunning
Didn't make sense not to imply for fun
Your brain gets smart but your post gets dumb
So much to do, so much to see
So what's wrong with taking the Reichstag?
You'll never know if you don't go
You'll never shine if you don't glow

Hey now, you're the Right Wing, get your reaction, go pray
Hey now, you're a Right Wing, get the show on, get paid
And all that glitters is gold
We're all dying in the Russian cold

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Postby Minzerland II » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:38 pm

Conscentia wrote:
Minzerland II wrote:I daresay that this is the greatest right-wing Revolution/Coup/Uprising to ever occur. This should have been on the previous poll, tbh.

"Autumn Of Nations". Close enough.

Which is miniscul in comparison. It honestly doesn't compare. :^)
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Postby Conscentia » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:42 pm

Minzerland II wrote:
Conscentia wrote:"Autumn Of Nations". Close enough.

Which is miniscul in comparison. It honestly doesn't compare. :^)

So toppling me was greater than toppling the USSR and it's sphere of influence? How flattering. Clearly the культ личности persists.

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Postby The East Marches II » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:42 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:Somebody once told me the East Marches is gonna troll me
I ain't the rightest guy in the thread
He was looking kind of dumb with his finger and his thumb
With his grip on a stick in an aircraft
Well the bans start coming and they don't stop coming
Fed to the rules and my posts are not cunning
Didn't make sense not to imply for fun
Your brain gets smart but your post gets dumb
So much to do, so much to see
So what's wrong with taking the Reichstag?
You'll never know if you don't go
You'll never shine if you don't glow

Hey now, you're the Right Wing, get your reaction, go pray
Hey now, you're a Right Wing, get the show on, get paid
And all that glitters is gold
We're all dying in the Russian cold


I had a sensible chuckle at that, thank you.
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