Russian Anti-Corruption Protests "Biggest Since 2012"

[New Werpland]

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-03-26/russia-anti-corruption-protests-draw-biggest-crowds-since-2012

Thousands of people gathered in Moscow and other major Russian cities Sunday, heeding a call by opposition leader Alexei Navalny to protest against official corruption in what appeared to be some of the largest anti-government demonstrations in the last five years.

Police detained scores of protesters in Moscow, including Navalny, 40, who was stopped shortly after arriving on Tverskaya Street in the capital’s downtown, his spokeswoman said in Twitter post. Navalny, who is campaigning for the presidency in next year’s elections despite doubts about whether he will be permitted to run, called the protests after releasing a film showing lavish estates that allegedly belong to Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev. The government has denied those charges.

Protesters defied officials who refused to authorize the rallies. News agencies reported detentions of participants in Vladivostok, as well as in cities in Siberia and central Russia, where organizers reported turnout in the hundreds and low thousands.

What do you think NSG? Is this the work of valiant freedom fighters? Or is this perpetrated by the out-of-touch St Petersburg liberast elites who are actually puppets of the American geopolitical war machine funded by Bill Clinton and George Soros?

Well I'd say neither. First of all Alexei Navalny is a Russian chauvinist and racist. While he probably is the most electable of the Russian opposition, I don't like him. I'd much prefer this protest to be lead by someone from Yabloko or even Left Front. Second, these protests are occurring in the less cosmopolitan liberal/well-off parts of Russia. Such as Vladivostok, which is like a depressed port city on the eastern coast. Other media sources state things occurring in the middle of Siberia as well.

It will be interesting to see what happens after more of these guys get arrested.

[Baltenstein]

I don't think much will come of it. Same goes for the protest in neighboring Belarus.

[Ifreann]

I'd want extra pay from Soros to protest in Russia.

[Uiiop]

What else can i say other than wishing them luck?

[Novus America]

I don't think much will come of it. Same goes for the protest in neighboring Belarus.

"Unsanctioned" protests are illegal in Russia, and the Russian government is conducting mass arests, threatening anyone who even advocates for them.

They will be quickly shut down by the state.

What is concerning is that whenever there are domestic concerns the Kremlin starts beating the war drums louder.

Surely these will be claimed to be an attempt at a color revolution sponsored by shadowy US and EU conspirators trying to cause a liberal homosexual Nazi takeover of Russia.

[Shofercia]

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-03-26/russia-anti-corruption-protests-draw-biggest-crowds-since-2012

Thousands of people gathered in Moscow and other major Russian cities Sunday, heeding a call by opposition leader Alexei Navalny to protest against official corruption in what appeared to be some of the largest anti-government demonstrations in the last five years.

Police detained scores of protesters in Moscow, including Navalny, 40, who was stopped shortly after arriving on Tverskaya Street in the capital’s downtown, his spokeswoman said in Twitter post. Navalny, who is campaigning for the presidency in next year’s elections despite doubts about whether he will be permitted to run, called the protests after releasing a film showing lavish estates that allegedly belong to Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev. The government has denied those charges.

Protesters defied officials who refused to authorize the rallies. News agencies reported detentions of participants in Vladivostok, as well as in cities in Siberia and central Russia, where organizers reported turnout in the hundreds and low thousands.

What do you think NSG? Is this the work of valiant freedom fighters? Or is this perpetrated by the out-of-touch St Petersburg...elites who are actually puppets of the American geopolitical war machine funded by Bill Clinton and George Soros?

Well I'd say neither. First of all Alexei Navalny is a Russian chauvinist and racist. While he probably is the most electable of the Russian opposition, I don't like him. I'd much prefer this protest to be lead by someone from Yabloko or even Left Front. Second, these protests are occurring in the less cosmopolitan liberal/well-off parts of Russia. Such as Vladivostok, which is like a depressed port city on the eastern coast. Other media sources state things occurring in the middle of Siberia as well.

It will be interesting to see what happens after more of these guys get arrested.

> Thousands
> Mass Protests in Russia

Pick one. Thousands comes off more as a wild wedding bash in Russia than a massive protest. If those are the largest anti-Government demonstrations in five years, Russia's in good shape. It's good that you admit that Navalny is the most electable of the self-dubbed "true opposition" as opposed to opposition that can actually get elected. Navalny has absolutely no chance. But don't take my word for it: http://www.apnorc.org/projects/Pages/HT ... brief.aspx

Putin’s popularity is strong even when compared to other leaders in Russia. More Russians hold somewhat or strongly favorable views of Putin (81 percent) than Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev (55 percent), Communist Party leader Gennady Zyuganov (28 percent), and blogger Alexei Navalny (6 percent).

So the gap between Putin and Navalny is "only" about 3/4ths of the population. Piece of cake /sarcasm

That said, an anti-Kremlin TV channel, Dozhd, did a poll of Navalny's hard core supporters - who came in at less than one percent of the population. But hey, last week there was a report of 11 Russian contractors killed in Syria, this week - Navalny's puny protests; it seems the Western Press is so desperate to find something bad about Russia, that they're scraping the bottom of the barrel. Next week's article: "Putin farts right instead of left!" At least I'm going to get some entertainment out of this.

[Conserative Morality]

I don't think much will come of it. Same goes for the protest in neighboring Belarus.

"Unsanctioned" protests are illegal in Russia, and the Russian government is conducting mass arests, threatening anyone who even advocates for them.

They will be quickly shut down by the state.

What is concerning is that whenever there are domestic concerns the Kremlin starts beating the war drums louder.

Surely these will be claimed to be an attempt at a color revolution sponsored by shadowy US and EU conspirators trying to cause a liberal homosexual Nazi takeover of Russia.

Russia stronk, protesters puny and weak.

[Shofercia]

I don't think much will come of it. Same goes for the protest in neighboring Belarus.

Pretty much. Although something funny can come from it. The crowds of hundreds can turn on Navalny. And then he'd have to be rescued by the same cops that he trashed on his blog.

I'd want extra pay from Soros to protest in Russia.

There aren't any immediate consequences, but you could have long term issues. Long story short, Poroshenko in Russia is viewed as Yeltsin 2.0, and you can simply ask what we think of Drunkard Yeltsin, aka Csar Boris of Vodka. So if you side with Poroshenko, you might end up being unemployed, because of societal stigma attached to you.

What else can i say other than wishing them luck?

"It'll be pointless, so can you guy at least make it funny?" Although considering that one of them nailed his balls, thinking it was funny, I don't think they understand how humor works.

[San Marlindo]

I'm reminded of the time I was telling an elderly acquaintance of mine about some protests in Russia a while back.

He said he'd been to Moscow many, many years ago, as a tourist. The tour guide took him and all the other foreigners on their state-approved tour to see a protest. I'm not kidding. It was actually treated like another tourist attraction, like Gorky Park. The guide had said, "see? We are a great freedom loving democracy like everybody else too, we have freedom of protest!"

The supposed protestors were clearly all drunk or stoned out of their gourds and obviously didn't want to be there. They were noticeably unenthusiastic about having to carry their signs.

All the tourists nodded quickly and tried their best to gloss over this incredibly awkward demonstration of freedom.

I think of this, and laugh, every time I see an article about Russians enjoying and expressing their freedom to protest.

[Shofercia]

I don't think much will come of it. Same goes for the protest in neighboring Belarus.

"Unsanctioned" protests are illegal in Russia, and the Russian government is conducting mass arests, threatening anyone who even advocates for them.

They will be quickly shut down by the state.

What is concerning is that whenever there are domestic concerns the Kremlin starts beating the war drums louder.

Surely these will be claimed to be an attempt at a color revolution sponsored by shadowy US and EU conspirators trying to cause a liberal homosexual Nazi takeover of Russia.

And then you will dragged to Mordor, and thrown into the fiery pit, or your body will be given to orcs to devour, and... whereas, in reality, there were 500 detentions, and a few leaders were arrested. Speaking of your commentary, it's rather bad:

Surely these will be claimed to be an attempt at a color revolution sponsored by shadowy US and EU conspirators trying to cause a liberal homosexual Nazi takeover of Russia.

Navalny is very much anti-gay, and has his own funds in Russia that his supporters fork over. His "liberal" statements are very anti-Muslim, enough to make Gauthier vomit, and if the US/EU are using Navalny to start a color revolution, the only thing they'll produce is mass laughter, much like the italicized part of your post. Navalny is a well known clown in Russia, who has a few fanatical supporters, but that's about it. There is absolutely no threat to Putin in the 2018 elections, and United Russia has 76% of the Duma. A crackdown, like the one that you're suggesting, will cause more anti-Putin protests than Navalny has the ability to stage in a lifetime. Which is why the actual crackdown will be very minor, almost comical.

[Shofercia]

I'm reminded of the time I was telling an elderly acquaintance of mine about some protests in Russia a while back.

He said he'd been to Moscow many, many years ago, as a tourist. The tour guide took him and all the other foreigners on their state-approved tour to see a protest. I'm not kidding. It was actually treated like another tourist attraction, like Gorky Park. The guide had said, "see? We are a great freedom loving democracy like everybody else too, we have freedom of protest!"

The supposed protestors were clearly all drunk or stoned out of their gourds and obviously didn't want to be there. They were noticeably unenthusiastic about having to carry their signs.

All the tourists nodded quickly and tried their best to gloss over this incredibly awkward demonstration of freedom.

I think of this, and laugh, every time I see an article about Russians enjoying and expressing their freedom to protest.

There were effective protests in Russia: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/ ... aliningrad

This, however, isn't one of them. A few might actually believe that it can do something, and most of the Russians will just laugh at it. In order to have a protest in Russia, you need to have a real issue, one that's new and shocking. Medvedev being unable to hide his skim funds hardly qualifies as either new, or shocking.

[Shofercia]

Russia stronk strong, protesters puny and weak.

If you are talking about these protests, that would be the correct assessment. Good job! Oh, and I uh, fixed the spelling. "Strong" is spelled with "g" not a "k", just though you should know

[Thermodolia]

Russia stronk strong, protesters puny and weak.

If you are talking about these protests, that would be the correct assessment. Good job! Oh, and I uh, fixed the spelling. "Strong" is spelled with "g" not a "k", just though you should know

The joke


You

[North Arkana]

If you are talking about these protests, that would be the correct assessment. Good job! Oh, and I uh, fixed the spelling. "Strong" is spelled with "g" not a "k", just though you should know

The joke


You

He's a Russophile bordering on the next step up. There is no joke for him.

[San Marlindo]

I'm reminded of the time I was telling an elderly acquaintance of mine about some protests in Russia a while back.

He said he'd been to Moscow many, many years ago, as a tourist. The tour guide took him and all the other foreigners on their state-approved tour to see a protest. I'm not kidding. It was actually treated like another tourist attraction, like Gorky Park. The guide had said, "see? We are a great freedom loving democracy like everybody else too, we have freedom of protest!"

The supposed protestors were clearly all drunk or stoned out of their gourds and obviously didn't want to be there. They were noticeably unenthusiastic about having to carry their signs.

All the tourists nodded quickly and tried their best to gloss over this incredibly awkward demonstration of freedom.

I think of this, and laugh, every time I see an article about Russians enjoying and expressing their freedom to protest.

There were effective protests in Russia: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/ ... aliningrad

This, however, isn't one of them. A few might actually believe that it can do something, and most of the Russians will just laugh at it. In order to have a protest in Russia, you need to have a real issue, one that's new and shocking. Medvedev being unable to hide his skim funds hardly qualifies as either new, or shocking.

This happened like fifty years ago when Moscow was still part of the Russian SFSR, not the current federation.

That's why I say I think of it and am amused when I hear that Russians are enjoying their freedom to protest, they've come a long way.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Well good luck. Won't do much but good luck

[New haven america]

Nothing will come of it, the Russian government will continue being a corrupt semi-dictatorship.

[Aclion]

Important question: Does Navalny ride bears?

[Populi-Terrae]

Nothing will come of it, other than more political rivals to Putin to throw in jail and have 'disposed of'. I wonder what would happen if Putin decided to massacre them en-masse like his buddy Assad did in 2011.

[Conserative Morality]

Nothing will come of it, other than more political rivals to Putin to throw in jail and have 'disposed of'. I wonder what would happen if Putin decided to massacre them en-masse like his buddy Assad did in 2011.

"Glorious leader Putin destroys Western Liberast Traitors, national holiday announced!"

Followed by Russian apologists online celebrating.

[North Arkana]

Nothing will come of it, other than more political rivals to Putin to throw in jail and have 'disposed of'. I wonder what would happen if Putin decided to massacre them en-masse like his buddy Assad did in 2011.

"Glorious leader Putin destroys Western Liberast Traitors, national holiday announced!"

Followed by Russian apologists online celebrating.

That's Shof's cue, right?

[Novus America]

"Unsanctioned" protests are illegal in Russia, and the Russian government is conducting mass arests, threatening anyone who even advocates for them.

They will be quickly shut down by the state.

What is concerning is that whenever there are domestic concerns the Kremlin starts beating the war drums louder.

Surely these will be claimed to be an attempt at a color revolution sponsored by shadowy US and EU conspirators trying to cause a liberal homosexual Nazi takeover of Russia.

And then you will dragged to Mordor, and thrown into the fiery pit, or your body will be given to orcs to devour, and... whereas, in reality, there were 500 detentions, and a few leaders were arrested. Speaking of your commentary, it's rather bad:

Surely these will be claimed to be an attempt at a color revolution sponsored by shadowy US and EU conspirators trying to cause a liberal homosexual Nazi takeover of Russia.

Navalny is very much anti-gay, and has his own funds in Russia that his supporters fork over. His "liberal" statements are very anti-Muslim, enough to make Gauthier vomit, and if the US/EU are using Navalny to start a color revolution, the only thing they'll produce is mass laughter, much like the italicized part of your post. Navalny is a well known clown in Russia, who has a few fanatical supporters, but that's about it. There is absolutely no threat to Putin in the 2018 elections, and United Russia has 76% of the Duma. A crackdown, like the one that you're suggesting, will cause more anti-Putin protests than Navalny has the ability to stage in a lifetime. Which is why the actual crackdown will be very minor, almost comical.

You missed the point. Propaganda does not have to be consistent, or logical. Russian propaganda is often neither.
I simply said these will be claimed to be some Western conspiracy to start a color revolution, when obviously they are not.
And the Nazis were anti gay and anti liberal too. So when the West is claimed to be both liberal gay and Nazi it of course does not make sense. But the claim is still made.

Arresting 500 people is a crackdown BTW, so clearly there already was one. Plus that is at least 500 arrests in Moscow alone.

Navalny is not a threat to Putin. If he was he would have swallowed so Polonium or something. Or at least be in prison.
The interesting thing about these protests are that they are not attacking Putin or his foreign policy (which obviously will not work), but rather criticizing the rampant corruption of others in his government. This means those people in his government have an interest in keeping them quiet.

[Novus America]

There were effective protests in Russia: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/ ... aliningrad

This, however, isn't one of them. A few might actually believe that it can do something, and most of the Russians will just laugh at it. In order to have a protest in Russia, you need to have a real issue, one that's new and shocking. Medvedev being unable to hide his skim funds hardly qualifies as either new, or shocking.

This happened like fifty years ago when Moscow was still part of the Russian SFSR, not the current federation.

That's why I say I think of it and am amused when I hear that Russians are enjoying their freedom to protest, they've come a long way.

Considering they are being arrested for protests, and the government has openly said these protests are illegal and participants will be punished, not much freedom is being exercised here.

[Shofercia]

If you are talking about these protests, that would be the correct assessment. Good job! Oh, and I uh, fixed the spelling. "Strong" is spelled with "g" not a "k", just though you should know

The joke


You

I know the stronk meme. It just doesn't apply in this case.

The joke


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He's a Russophile bordering on the next step up. There is no joke for him.

Speaking of jokes, I found Clinton imploding to be quite hilarious. So many jokes I could think of on that front. And it was really hilarious how Fox News actually knew more about Pennsylvania than the DNC. Would you like to talk about those jokes, North Arkana?

"Glorious leader Putin destroys Western Liberast Traitors, national holiday announced!"

Followed by Russian apologists online celebrating.

That's Shof's cue, right?

Wrong, as usual. Is this where I laugh about how the DNC missed Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan? Sucks when your tactic is turned against you, doesn't it, North Arkana?

And then you will dragged to Mordor, and thrown into the fiery pit, or your body will be given to orcs to devour, and... whereas, in reality, there were 500 detentions, and a few leaders were arrested. Speaking of your commentary, it's rather bad:

Surely these will be claimed to be an attempt at a color revolution sponsored by shadowy US and EU conspirators trying to cause a liberal homosexual Nazi takeover of Russia.

Navalny is very much anti-gay, and has his own funds in Russia that his supporters fork over. His "liberal" statements are very anti-Muslim, enough to make Gauthier vomit, and if the US/EU are using Navalny to start a color revolution, the only thing they'll produce is mass laughter, much like the italicized part of your post. Navalny is a well known clown in Russia, who has a few fanatical supporters, but that's about it. There is absolutely no threat to Putin in the 2018 elections, and United Russia has 76% of the Duma. A crackdown, like the one that you're suggesting, will cause more anti-Putin protests than Navalny has the ability to stage in a lifetime. Which is why the actual crackdown will be very minor, almost comical.

You missed the point. Propaganda does not have to be consistent, or logical. Russian propaganda is often neither.
I simply said these will be claimed to be some Western conspiracy to start a color revolution, when obviously they are not.
And the Nazis were anti gay and anti liberal too. So when the West is claimed to be both liberal gay and Nazi it of course does not make sense. But the claim is still made.

Arresting 500 people is a crackdown BTW, so clearly there already was one. Plus that is at least 500 arrests in Moscow alone.

Navalny is not a threat to Putin. If he was he would have swallowed so Polonium or something. Or at least be in prison.
The interesting thing about these protests are that they are not attacking Putin or his foreign policy (which obviously will not work), but rather criticizing the rampant corruption of others in his government. This means those people in his government have an interest in keeping them quiet.

I didn't miss the point, since you didn't have a point, because you're just making stuff up and throwing up irrelevant shit, like polonium, which was used against an actual traitor. It's not going to be used on a street clown, and yet, here you are, still bitching about polonium, which was used all of one time on a double agent who was formerly KGB. You do understand that there's a difference, right? Litvenenko violated his oath to the KGB, after taking said oath. He placed Russian agents in danger as a result of his betrayal. Navalny's only case of corruption, as opposed to betrayal, was Kirovles, the punishment for which is a massive fine and prison time. But speaking of you backing your claims, please provide sources for the following:

Kremlin officials claiming that Navalny is pro-gay, when talking about this protest
Kremlin officials claiming that Navalny is starting a color revolution, when talking about this protest

Of course you won't have sources backing your claims, what else is new? Honestly, if Navalny didn't fuck up on Kirovless, and if he wasn't a racist, I'd have no issues with him. Nor would most Russians.

This happened like fifty years ago when Moscow was still part of the Russian SFSR, not the current federation.

That's why I say I think of it and am amused when I hear that Russians are enjoying their freedom to protest, they've come a long way.

Considering they are being arrested for protests, and the government has openly said these protests are illegal and participants will be punished, not much freedom is being exercised here.

His point

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Your head

He's pointing out that Russia improved on Civil Rights, and still has a long way to go. You're saying... something.

[Ifreann]

I'd want extra pay from Soros to protest in Russia.

There aren't any immediate consequences, but you could have long term issues. Long story short, Poroshenko in Russia is viewed as Yeltsin 2.0, and you can simply ask what we think of Drunkard Yeltsin, aka Csar Boris of Vodka. So if you side with Poroshenko, you might end up being unemployed, because of societal stigma attached to you.

So those scores of people getting detained, that happened a month later or something?