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Postby Lord Dominator » Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:26 am

Cormactopia Prime wrote:For real though, malicious quote editing really is against the rules. No need to stoop to that level.

Small correction, malicious quote editing without making it obvious what the original text was is against the rules :p

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Postby Blood Wine » Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:41 am

Cormactopia Prime wrote:For real though, malicious quote editing really is against the rules. No need to stoop to that level.


Quote editing is allowed if you make it clear it was edited - once again rule violations need to be reported in moderation
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Postby Maksao » Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:49 pm

One has to wonder why you are all giving such a supposedly bad org so much free publicity

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Postby Kaboomlandia » Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:50 pm

Maksao wrote:One has to wonder why you are all giving such a supposedly bad org so much free publicity

Better than letting them run amok.
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Postby Maksao » Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:58 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:
Maksao wrote:One has to wonder why you are all giving such a supposedly bad org so much free publicity

Better than letting them run amok.

Im not saying dont defend against them but posting in the thread is just free publicity

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Postby Blood Wine » Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:59 pm

Maksao wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:Better than letting them run amok.

Im not saying dont defend against them but posting in the thread is just free publicity


It really isn't, this thread doesn't drive recruitment whatsoever
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Elke and Elba wrote:Well Mall, you want Haven? I'd want your Joint Systems Alliance badge, then.
Discoveria wrote:Port blood is a raider through and through. Honest.
Tim-Opolis wrote:The Salt Mines will be fueled for months by the tears of silly fascists.
Sedgistan wrote:Attempted threadjack on sandwiches and satanism removed.
[4:27 PM] Antigone: Port Blood = Gameplay Jesus
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Postby Jar Wattinree » Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:01 pm

Maksao wrote:One has to wonder why you are all giving such a supposedly bad org so much free publicity

They don't recruit through NSGP; they use stamps like every UCR org out there.
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Postby Maksao » Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:18 pm

Blood Wine wrote:It really isn't, this thread doesn't drive recruitment whatsoever

Jar Wattinree wrote:They don't recruit through NSGP; they use stamps like every UCR org out there.


Thank you i know how it works but there is nothing a raider region loves more than having their thread on the first page of the gameplay forum

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Postby Blood Wine » Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:14 pm

Maksao wrote:
Blood Wine wrote:It really isn't, this thread doesn't drive recruitment whatsoever

Jar Wattinree wrote:They don't recruit through NSGP; they use stamps like every UCR org out there.


Thank you i know how it works but there is nothing a raider region loves more than having their thread on the first page of the gameplay forum


Also not 100% accurate - i doubt they like being called out on their terrible actions
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Elke and Elba wrote:Well Mall, you want Haven? I'd want your Joint Systems Alliance badge, then.
Discoveria wrote:Port blood is a raider through and through. Honest.
Tim-Opolis wrote:The Salt Mines will be fueled for months by the tears of silly fascists.
Sedgistan wrote:Attempted threadjack on sandwiches and satanism removed.
[4:27 PM] Antigone: Port Blood = Gameplay Jesus
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Postby Marilyn Manson Freaks » Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:35 pm

Blood Wine wrote:
Maksao wrote:

Thank you i know how it works but there is nothing a raider region loves more than having their thread on the first page of the gameplay forum


Also not 100% accurate - i doubt they like being called out on their terrible actions


TRE has been quite quiet in this thread, most of the posts are from outsiders because of the recent scandal.

(Disclaimer: I don't support what the leadership of TRE said, and really wonder how they still can get nations to join their cause.)
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Postby Lord Dominator » Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:38 pm

Marilyn Manson Freaks wrote:
Blood Wine wrote:
Also not 100% accurate - i doubt they like being called out on their terrible actions


TRE has been quite quiet in this thread, most of the posts are from outsiders because of the recent scandal.

(Disclaimer: I don't support what the leadership of TRE said, and really wonder how they still can get nations to join their cause.)

Money, and not telling newcomers of what they've done/passing it off as jokes

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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:46 pm

Maksao wrote:
Blood Wine wrote:It really isn't, this thread doesn't drive recruitment whatsoever

Jar Wattinree wrote:They don't recruit through NSGP; they use stamps like every UCR org out there.


Thank you i know how it works but there is nothing a raider region loves more than having their thread on the first page of the gameplay forum

Hm. A nation in the same region that Chelvo is apparently an RO in, defending TRE? Go figure.
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Postby Maksao » Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:21 am

Blood Wine wrote:Also not 100% accurate - i doubt they like being called out on their terrible actions

Terrible is subjective

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Hm. A nation in the same region that Chelvo is apparently an RO in, defending TRE? Go figure.

I would not say im defending them. We obviously have different views on gameplay so that might be why

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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:23 pm

Maksao wrote:I would not say im defending them. We obviously have different views on gameplay so that might be why

Only view I hold here is that the statements of the TRE leadership are morally reprehensible (read as: fucking disgusting) and they deserve to be called out at every opportunity for it.
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Postby Maksao » Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:11 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Only view I hold here is that the statements of the TRE leadership are morally reprehensible (read as: fucking disgusting) and they deserve to be called out at every opportunity for it.

And you are free to continue doing so for as long as you may wish. All im saying it that posting in the thread helps them so its rather silly for you all to continue doing so.

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Postby Jar Wattinree » Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:27 pm

Maksao wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Only view I hold here is that the statements of the TRE leadership are morally reprehensible (read as: fucking disgusting) and they deserve to be called out at every opportunity for it.

And you are free to continue doing so for as long as you may wish. All im saying it that posting in the thread helps them so its rather silly for you all to continue doing so.

Not if the seventeen or so replies to every one of TRE's reports is not congratulatory or praise-heaping but rather condemnations of an event one must click back a page or three to find the reason for. Your average Joe does not read GP threads looking to support the underdog, nor does your average nation read GP threads looking for a good place to be. On the off chance that someone is looking for a region, they'll quickly steer clear of TRE if they glance through its thread and find condemnation of everything it does. People may dislike orgs for In Character reasons, and folk may support these orgs in spite of IC failings, but when everybody OOC dislikes an org, you quickly discover where the line is drawn.

You're free to try and stand up for them, but it's your one, lone voice against seventeen others.
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Postby Blood Wine » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:06 am

Maksao wrote:
Blood Wine wrote:Also not 100% accurate - i doubt they like being called out on their terrible actions

Terrible is subjective


No, transphobia is pretty objectively terrible
Formerly known as Port Blood
Elke and Elba wrote:Well Mall, you want Haven? I'd want your Joint Systems Alliance badge, then.
Discoveria wrote:Port blood is a raider through and through. Honest.
Tim-Opolis wrote:The Salt Mines will be fueled for months by the tears of silly fascists.
Sedgistan wrote:Attempted threadjack on sandwiches and satanism removed.
[4:27 PM] Antigone: Port Blood = Gameplay Jesus
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Postby Indo-Malaysia » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:23 pm

Blood Wine wrote:
Maksao wrote:Terrible is subjective


No, transphobia is pretty objectively terrible

This.

And that is only some of the logs. I have only seen someone paraphrase it onsite (I haven't got a screenshot yet, anyone TG me it?), and the stuff described would probably be a DEAT/DOS if it was onsite.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:41 pm

Indo-Malaysia wrote:
Blood Wine wrote:
No, transphobia is pretty objectively terrible

This.

And that is only some of the logs. I have only seen someone paraphrase it onsite (I haven't got a screenshot yet, anyone TG me it?), and the stuff described would probably be a DEAT/DOS if it was onsite.
Advocacy of death is terrible.

Several of the people involved who were blacklisted were already modsmacked for the Predator scandal (cannot call them out specifically though) so while I cannot speak for the mods, it's probable that none of them would still be allowed on this game if the evidence that got them blacklisted was admissible.
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:13 pm

Indo-Malaysia wrote:
Blood Wine wrote:
No, transphobia is pretty objectively terrible

This.

And that is only some of the logs. I have only seen someone paraphrase it onsite (I haven't got a screenshot yet, anyone TG me it?), and the stuff described would probably be a DEAT/DOS if it was onsite.
Advocacy of death is terrible.

Sending the evidence via on-site avenues would result in a warning for defamation. Try Discord.
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Postby Indo-Malaysia » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:43 pm

Tim-Opolis wrote:
Indo-Malaysia wrote:This.

And that is only some of the logs. I have only seen someone paraphrase it onsite (I haven't got a screenshot yet, anyone TG me it?), and the stuff described would probably be a DEAT/DOS if it was onsite.
Advocacy of death is terrible.

Sending the evidence via on-site avenues would result in a warning for defamation. Try Discord.

I have seen'em now.

I do think some moderation rules need to be changed, because the stuff Fest and Plagentine have said is pretty fucking disgusting.
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