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by King Alexander » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:59 pm
by Sedgistan » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:44 pm
Flanderlion wrote:Do we really care about KGB's drama? Reply 'k' or something else that doesn't straddle the line of spam, and then stop replying and the thread will hopefully die.
by Aimdar-Goomdar » Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:20 pm
King Alexander wrote:Alright everyone, he made his point and we've made ours. Rather then continuing to be a dead horse as the saying goes, lets get back to running the region in question and let this die out.
by Cerian Quilor » Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:38 pm
by Aimdar-Goomdar » Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:47 pm
Cerian Quilor wrote:I'm calling Godwin's law, LN. To say that KGB is 'almost worse' than NE over what appear to be biased or at least incomplete interpretations of events...
NE is NE. The bar for almost worse than them is damn near unreachable.
by Vaculatestar64 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:34 pm
Aimdar-Goomdar wrote:King Alexander wrote:Alright everyone, he made his point and we've made ours. Rather then continuing to be a dead horse as the saying goes, lets get back to running the region in question and let this die out.
I simply believe this is unacceptable for a region. Extensive corruption, limits on political freedoms, pseudo-democracy, and in practice, an absolute monarchy...
In its lies, The Kingdom of Great Britain, is, I venture to say, almost worst then Nazi Europa...
However, as of now, nothing can be done. One could keep an eye on it, but KGB will probably continue on.
by Madnoir » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:47 pm
Aimdar-Goomdar wrote:King Alexander wrote:Alright everyone, he made his point and we've made ours. Rather then continuing to be a dead horse as the saying goes, lets get back to running the region in question and let this die out.
I simply believe this is unacceptable for a region. Extensive corruption, limits on political freedoms, pseudo-democracy, and in practice, an absolute monarchy...
In its lies, The Kingdom of Great Britain, is, I venture to say, almost worst then Nazi Europa...
However, as of now, nothing can be done. One could keep an eye on it, but KGB will probably continue on.
by Brunhizzle » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:22 pm
Aimdar-Goomdar wrote:In its lies, The Kingdom of Great Britain, is, I venture to say, almost worst then Nazi Europa...
by Aimdar-Goomdar » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:23 pm
Brunhizzle wrote:Aimdar-Goomdar wrote:In its lies, The Kingdom of Great Britain, is, I venture to say, almost worst then Nazi Europa...
Obviously they're not worse than Nazi Europa. For one, they have never stooped low enough to liberate Dank Memes.
by Vaculatestar64 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:55 pm
Madnoir wrote:Aimdar-Goomdar wrote:I simply believe this is unacceptable for a region. Extensive corruption, limits on political freedoms, pseudo-democracy, and in practice, an absolute monarchy...
In its lies, The Kingdom of Great Britain, is, I venture to say, almost worst then Nazi Europa...
However, as of now, nothing can be done. One could keep an eye on it, but KGB will probably continue on.
Man, I was with you until you compared them to Nazi Europa. Their practices are wrong, but comparing them to Nazi Europa is extraneous and weakens your argument as much as the OP's emotional post does.
Separately, I think it's funny that KGB's legal experts are coming out denouncing this and saying that they've cited their occasional rulings against the King and their principles for the rule of law. Kind of easy to say that you uphold the existing laws when you wrote or influenced the drafting of their laws and constitution, innit? And is the creepy role playing family relationships to your position seems a little shifty, doesn't it? If these so called legal experts really wanted to push for equality, free dialogue, fairness, and justice in their laws, they'd push to reform their region's system.
Sure the monarchy and the people in power might be following their laws as they're written and therefore not breaking any. But it's pretty easy to do that when they've written and passed those laws skewed in their favor! Corporations do it in the US gubment IRL, I guess why not in here by the royals. It's laughable that they're denying the corruption. Most of us around this game have known for a long time
by Madnoir » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:19 pm
Vaculatestar64 wrote:Madnoir wrote:
Man, I was with you until you compared them to Nazi Europa. Their practices are wrong, but comparing them to Nazi Europa is extraneous and weakens your argument as much as the OP's emotional post does.
Separately, I think it's funny that KGB's legal experts are coming out denouncing this and saying that they've cited their occasional rulings against the King and their principles for the rule of law. Kind of easy to say that you uphold the existing laws when you wrote or influenced the drafting of their laws and constitution, innit? And is the creepy role playing family relationships to your position seems a little shifty, doesn't it? If these so called legal experts really wanted to push for equality, free dialogue, fairness, and justice in their laws, they'd push to reform their region's system.
Sure the monarchy and the people in power might be following their laws as they're written and therefore not breaking any. But it's pretty easy to do that when they've written and passed those laws skewed in their favor! Corporations do it in the US gubment IRL, I guess why not in here by the royals. It's laughable that they're denying the corruption. Most of us around this game have known for a long time
First off, it's hard for someone in office to not be related to the royal family, it's a little bloated. Also we don't pass anything out of the ordinary. We have a criminal code, a civil code, a Constitution ( albeit with a powerful Monarchy) etc... No I'm not listing everything out and explaining it, we've had three years to do this stuff.
by Vaculatestar64 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:34 pm
Madnoir wrote:Vaculatestar64 wrote:
First off, it's hard for someone in office to not be related to the royal family, it's a little bloated. Also we don't pass anything out of the ordinary. We have a criminal code, a civil code, a Constitution ( albeit with a powerful Monarchy) etc... No I'm not listing everything out and explaining it, we've had three years to do this stuff.
Trimming (or hacking away chunks) of it might be a great step to take
Pertaining to your Constitution and your criminal and civil codes, your Constitution and your version of treason is what I was referring to. As well as the judicial opinions and the internal things that have gone on in the past like treatment towards criticism and free speech. We see, we see
by Madnoir » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:13 pm
Vaculatestar64 wrote:Madnoir wrote:
Trimming (or hacking away chunks) of it might be a great step to take
Pertaining to your Constitution and your criminal and civil codes, your Constitution and your version of treason is what I was referring to. As well as the judicial opinions and the internal things that have gone on in the past like treatment towards criticism and free speech. We see, we see
I'm not even going to debate our legal system with you, if you wanna know, come and see for yourself, join up! (No shame recruitment hat ON ) We also don't have many legal opinions, we don't get many court cases, we don't just charge people with stuff left and right, so not much opportunity for court opinions. So those few opinions you poked fun at earlier, essentially constitute a majority of opinions.
by Cerian Quilor » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:25 pm
by Madnoir » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:43 pm
Cerian Quilor wrote:A monarch is only supposed to be above politics if that is part of the regional expectation though. Not every region has the same view on the role of the Monarch in that sense.
by Cerian Quilor » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:47 pm
Madnoir wrote:Cerian Quilor wrote:A monarch is only supposed to be above politics if that is part of the regional expectation though. Not every region has the same view on the role of the Monarch in that sense.
As one of the many British themed regions (why is that anyway?), you'd think that they would align themselves with the expectations of monarchy to the actual Britain
by Madnoir » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:54 pm
Cerian Quilor wrote:Madnoir wrote:As one of the many British themed regions (why is that anyway?), you'd think that they would align themselves with the expectations of monarchy to the actual Britain
Britain has had a lot of different standards for how much authority the Monarch is supposed to have over the years. What is true now wasn't always true.
by Cerian Quilor » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:58 pm
by Madnoir » Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:05 pm
Cerian Quilor wrote:If KGB likes the system they have, then they should stick with it. This is one disconted former citizen.
by Vaculatestar64 » Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:10 pm
Madnoir wrote:Cerian Quilor wrote:If KGB likes the system they have, then they should stick with it. This is one disconted former citizen.
They've had other leakers in the past like that "whistle-blower" guy last year. Except that guy actually gave better points and testimony. The rumors and stories from old members have always been there about KGB's system about the people they ban and the ways they do so. These leakers help confirm it. A lot of these old British themed regions eventually die out anyway for obvious reasons. There's no harm in changing some things to adapt and prevent people like this from using anything questionable against them, whether there is a lot of truth to this or very little
by Zaolat » Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:41 pm
Altino wrote:This post is, ultimately, just a dramatic resignation from the region, if we're all being honest. Heidi isn't active, hasn't been for a while. He's throwing out knocks against KGB, which are really just knocks against Don, which are secretly still just knocks against KGB, and following it up with an emotional goodbye on KGB's forum and thanks to all the people who helped him make it to where he is today.
I think the most important thing to note in this post is that my switch tocalling KGB "KoGB" so we sound a little less like evil Russian spies is really starting to catch on. >D
Nailed it.
by Zaolat » Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:43 pm
Vaculatestar64 wrote:Madnoir wrote:They've had other leakers in the past like that "whistle-blower" guy last year. Except that guy actually gave better points and testimony. The rumors and stories from old members have always been there about KGB's system about the people they ban and the ways they do so. These leakers help confirm it. A lot of these old British themed regions eventually die out anyway for obvious reasons. There's no harm in changing some things to adapt and prevent people like this from using anything questionable against them, whether there is a lot of truth to this or very little
There is little to zero truth to the OP. Like I said, the OP was unhappy that he couldn't go up in the "ranks" as it were fast enough and exploded (again). As for British region dying, the UK has been around for something like a decade, KGB will have its fourth birthday later on this year. You were saying?
by New Ireland and Wales » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:08 pm
Vaculatestar64 wrote:Aimdar-Goomdar wrote:I simply believe this is unacceptable for a region. Extensive corruption, limits on political freedoms, pseudo-democracy, and in practice, an absolute monarchy...
In its lies, The Kingdom of Great Britain, is, I venture to say, almost worst then Nazi Europa...
However, as of now, nothing can be done. One could keep an eye on it, but KGB will probably continue on.
I wish I knew who you were to even think that your claim is worthwhile or credible. There is no corruption in KGB. As I stated before, the OP left because of the fact that he/she did not go high enough in the region fast enough. This is the same thing just a little more hidden and long winded.
by Vaculatestar64 » Sun Feb 26, 2017 5:22 pm
New Ireland and Wales wrote:Vaculatestar64 wrote:
I wish I knew who you were to even think that your claim is worthwhile or credible. There is no corruption in KGB. As I stated before, the OP left because of the fact that he/she did not go high enough in the region fast enough. This is the same thing just a little more hidden and long winded.
Since people want to use real names I'll do so too. (MODEDIT: Don't post players RL first names when they themselves haven't revealed it), I became Prime Minister perhaps I wasn't the greatest and could have done more. A part of it was because I had a few cabinet Secretaries who refused to do work. Point is I became Prime Minister. There's not much higher I could go except maybe Prince Royal, Prince of Wales, or Monarch. All of which I had no interest in. So please check yourself before you speak. It's quite annoying when you assume things.
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