1870 : Alternative Divergence [AH][OOC]

[Alt Div Admin]

1870 : Alternative Divergence OOC THREAD IC//MAP 3.10.2017 OP board Elerian Tracian Empire Cymrea Novacom Helghan [Heard of Reboot of Reboot?! Restart of Reboot of Reboot?!?] New players welcome! Do be aware much is under construction! “Men make History, but not at the time he wishes.” – Karl Marx__________________________________ But for the sake of argument, what if we could? Be it a point of divergence or a whole new nation, what if we could make history EXACTLY at the point that we wish? Hello and welcome to Another Alternative Divergence, an AH/AW RP where the world is your oyster to do whatever you wish. For the sake of continuity, the time now is 1870 C.E., and nations are expanding in a world not quite yet sobered by war for annihilation. What would be your vision of a world shaped by the nation that you call your own? Again, for the sake of continuity, we should set a few ground rules. All apps need a point of start and build-up – Whether you start from stone age and build it up to 1850 or simply change a few things here and there from 1800’s is up to you, but I would like for all nations to have an interesting history behind it… to prove you are capable AH/AW Rper. All nations MUST be somewhat original – Let’s try to be a bit more creative than having Great Britain at all its glory. You can keep the name and title, but you MUST have some degree of DIFFERENCE between your nation and the IRL ones. Everything can be excused with reason – I am willing to let anything be possible as long as it is stated clearly in the app with full explanation as to why it has come to be for your nation. … Similarly, I will accept NOTHING without a proper explanation. Nation Application Code: Select all [b]Full Nation Name :[/b] [b]Majority/Official Culture :[/b] [[What your people identify themselves with… French, Chinese, Iroquois, Touareg, etc.]] [b]Territorial Core :[/b] [[place where you have absolute control over]] [b]Territorial Claim :[/b] [[OPTIONAL]] [[region NOT your core where your nation’s ambition lies]] [b]Capital City :[/b] [[Its IRL location and name]] [b]Population :[/b] [b]Government Type :[/b] [[Monarchy, Republic, etc.]] [b]Government Ideology/Policies :[/b] [[OPTIONAL]] [[Militant, Imperialist, Expansionist, etc.]] [b]Government Focus :[/b] [[Tell me a little bit about what is your government’s focus… be it military, economy, culture, legitimacy, etc.]] [b]Head of State :[/b] [[highest-ranking individual in the nation according to rule of law]] [b]Head of Government :[/b] [[highest-ranking defacto ruler]] [b]Government Description :[/b] [b]Majority/State Religion :[/b] [[OPTIONAL]] [[It does not have to be IRL religion]] [b]Religious Description :[/b] [[OPTIONAL]] [b]Economic Ideologies :[/b] [[Capitalism, Mercantilism, Socialism, Communism, etc.]] [b]Major Production :[/b] [b]Economic Description :[/b] [b]Army Strength :[/b] [b]Army Weakness :[/b] [b]Naval Strength :[/b] [b]Naval Weakness :[/b] [b]Further Military Description :[/b] [[OPTIONAL]] [b]National Goals :[/b] [b]National Issues :[/b] [[what needs to be fixed in order for your nation to achieve its true potential]] [b]National Figures of Interest :[/b] [[OPTIONAL]] [[Are there any Mother Teresas or Moses that we need to know about?]] [b]National Ambition/Aspirations :[/b] [[OPTIONAL]] [[Not really a set objective, but rather the big picture that your nation is drawing towards]] [b]History :[/b] [[Can be in paragraph or bulletpoint timeline.]] [b]Comparison Points – Political :[/b] [[How much national focus is gone into administrating the government, i.e. espionage, royal marriages, counter-intelligence, etc.]] [b]Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious :[/b] [[How much national focus is gone into religious and or cultural aspects, i.e. asking for excommunication, call for crusade, soviet revolution in other nations, etc.]] [b]Comparison Points – Economy :[/b] [[How much national focus is gone into economic matters, i.e. embargo/blockade efficiency, lasting through war of attrition, simply feeding your people better, etc.]] [b]Comparison Points – Military :[/b] [[How much national focus is gone into military, i.e. discipline, morale, better tacticians/generals, etc.]] [b]Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX) :[/b] /10 #AltDiv (do not delete this, it's for keeping track of the apps) -Reservations- Code: Select all [align=middle][size=150][u]Reservation[/u][/size][/align] [b]Nation Name:[/b] [b]Territory:[/b] #AltDiv (do not delete this, it's for keeping track of the apps) *Note: Reservations will last for 48 hours. The OP board reserves the right to be subjective in regards to accepting reservations. Guidance System [[OPTIONAL]] This is something that I would like to try. We are creating an alternative world, right? Is there any historical divergence that you would like to be uniquely yours? Did the Chinese industrialize faster than Europeans? Did the Vikings settled down and colonized the Americas? Did the plague never wipe out Native Americans? Submit the app below, and you can add ONE alternative point as FACTUAL HISTORY for our RP! A few things to keep in mind: You can only have ONE Guidance. I’ll be the deciding judge on what is or what is not a single guidance. I would rather like this to be regional or global phenomenon, instead of “Nation A is the STRONGEST IN HISTORY!” Remember, you can always use your Guidance to cancel our others. EX- You can cancel out “Chinese industrialized faster than Europeans” with “Chinese industrialized faster than Europeans EXCEPT the English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, and the Dutch, which still managed to industrialize even faster.” If not stated by app or by Guidance, assume that the world was same as before. Of course, every app and every guidance will become something that need to be kept in mind in the RP. Guidance Application Code: Select all [b]Guidance Name :[/b] [[Every great event has a title. Doesn’t need to be fancy, like “Nanauatl hears our woes!” for curing the Smallpox by Spanish, and so on.]] [b]Guidance Description :[/b] [[What happened?]] [b]Affected Area :[/b] [[Just Europe? Just Middle East? Global?]]

[Alt Div Admin]

Accepted Reservations - Updated 3.10.2017

• None

+++Territories can be found in the above maps as to which territories are still open+++

Accepted Applications - Updated 3.10.2017
+++Be aware that many of the accepted apps may have the status of work in progress.+++

• Cymrea - United Kindgom of Cambria (Cambrian Empire)
• Second Helghan Empire - Kingdom of Germania
• Sanabel - United Republics of Ruthenia
• Tracian Empire – Imperium Romanorum
• Elerian - Shezarrin Empire (Caliphate)
• Narintia - Livonia
• The Ik Ka Ek Akai - The Persian Empire and The Kingdom of Nepal
• Dires - Dai Nippon Teikoku
• Western Imperial Union - Hunnic Empire
• Cabana - Commonwealth of Novanglia
• The V O I D - French Socialist Republic
• Novacom - Aztek Ascendancy
• Democratic East-Asia - National Union of China
• Mechanist Combine - Norse Republic of Scandinavia
• Velahor - Federation of Northern Native Tribes
• The Orson Empire - Communist Italy
• Atreidya - United Republics of America
• Malagasy Kingdom - Kingdom of Visigothica
• Rygondria - Republic of New Venice
• The Manticoran Empire - Austro-Bohemian Empire

Accepted Guidance - Update forthcoming

[Alt Div Admin]

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[Alt Div Admin]

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[Tracian Empire]

So, it begins

[Cymrea]

Full Nation Name: United Kingdom of Cambria (Cambrian Empire)
Majority/Official Culture: Welsh, English
Territorial Core: England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland; Canada, Australia, Aegypt; Ascension Island, Isle of Man, Channel Islands, Orkey Islands, Shetlands.
Territorial Claim: Parts of western USA, Alaskan panhandle
Capital City: Londinium (RL London)
Population: 37.3 million (Populstat 1870)

Government Type: Constitutional monarchy
Government Ideology/Policies: Imperialist
Government Focus: Military, economy/industry, science
Head of State: Queen Victoria o Rosa Regina (Alexandrina Tudoria Victoria)
Head of Government: Consul Primaris William Caledonis Gladstone
Government Description: The Cambrian Parliament is a bicameral legislature composed of the Circle of Archons (upper house of peerage) and the Circle of Praetors (lower house of commons). The Royal Senate is the executive cabinet of specialised advisors in particular ministries who advise the Consul Primaris.

Majority/State Religion: Cambrian Paganism
Religious Description: Cambrian Paganism is a less a religion than it is a communal spiritual connection to the natural world. Central to the faith is the idea that all things are interconnected; the seasons, the life cycles of humanity and the world around them, and the apparent order of all things. The belief that all things have their own spirit, similar to Shintoism, and the exploration of the natural order through the scientific method are mutually inclusive. Celebrations and observances include the solstices and equinoxes of the sun cycle, the lunar patterns, the sowing and the harvest. Balance and karma are also strong concepts in Cymrean Paganism.

In addition to the natural spirits are a pantheon of semi-deities - more like heroes and champions of legend and myth that are venerated, and whose interventions are often sought. These include Dadga, the All-Father and chief amongst Cambrian heroes; Tyr, greatest of warriors and champion of courage; Atalanta, the legendary ancient naval commander and hero of the seas; Morgana, the lady of death; and Wyrd, the champion of fate and chance. These icons represent certain facets of the world and provide a source of potential providence. As they are - purportedly - based on real Cambrians that once lived, they aren't worshipped as gods, per se.

Economic Ideologies: Mercantilism, leaning to capitalism; limited domestic social programmes
Major Production: Industrial equipment
Economic Description: Leading the world in financial services, resource extraction, and global trade, Cambria maintains a powerhouse economy that is increasingly enriched by industrial manufacturing.

Army and Navy Strengths and Weaknesses: Cambria's military is about 1% of their population, which is over 34 million. I haven't expanded that because it's only been a couple of IC years. This means that with all my vast territories to defend, I have only 320,000 regular and reserve forces in my armies and navies combined. The result is that localised garrisons are required to be largely self-reliant across all of Cambria, Canada, Australia, and Aegypt.

Having the largest navy means being able to cover my disparate regions and their commercial shipping lanes without leaving ports undefended. Discipline means they can fight in formations, maneuver well, and have a low chance of breaking/routing. Well-trained and well-equipped speak for themselves.

National Goals: Maintain the empire
National Issues: Tolerance of modern paganism
National Figures of Interest: High Druid Owainn
National Ambition/Aspirations: Imperial expansion and global prosperity

History: As the northern tribes assaulted and settled a Britannia recently bereft of Roman garrisons, they found a stable and comfortable quality of life and so Roman influence never faded, but instead flourished in its own way.

In the 15th Century, the popularity of Maria Tudoria Elizabeth I was extremely high, but her Privy Council, her Parliament and her subjects thought that the unmarried queen should take a husband; it was generally accepted that, once a queen regnant was married, the husband would relieve the woman of the burdens of head of state. Also, without an heir, the Tudor dynasty would end; the risk of civil war between rival claimants was a possibility if Elizabeth died childless. The first and most ardent suitor was Mary I’s widower Philip II of Spain. However, numerous other suitors from nearly all European nations sent ambassadors to the English court to put forward their suit.

Risk of death came dangerously close in 1564 when Elizabeth caught smallpox, and British destiny forever changed. It is said that in her fever, she experienced a holy visitation from a source no one would ever have suspected, given her moderate yet adamant Protestant views. Elizabeth claimed that Danu, mother goddess to the Tuatha de Danaan – the forerunners of modern Celts – came to her in her hour of greatest peril and told her that the elder gods had returned from their long celestial journey to reclaim the hearts and spirits of their Briton children. Elizabeth quickly recovered and proclaimed the vision a miracle.

The Second War of the Roses followed, with House York rising up with the support of all Christians of the realm, many of them Lancastrian. But a return to the original gods and a renewal of ties to the land was popular among the laymen and more nobles than might have been thought joined the Tudor cause. The Church of England reacted virulently, supporting the Yorkists and declaring Elizabeth and her revived Druidism anathema. In response, Elizabeth decreed the Church to be valid, but no longer the faith of the Crown and State. Popular revolts against the clergy resulted in the Church’s presence being reduced to Yorkist fortifications. In the end, the overwhelming popularity of Druidism resulted in the expunging of the Church of England.

The initial reaction from Rome was one of support for Elizabeth, seen as a scourge against the Protestants. The Vatican believed that Catholicism could be reinvigourated in Britain. Too late, the Pope realised that the movement was strong enough to hold permanent sway over the nostalgic Britons. Having supported the movement at its inception, the Pope could not exactly call for a Crusade – especially given that Rome was greatly occupied with the Holy Land, and that Britain held nothing of geographical or theological importance for Catholicism. Indeed, the pagan artifact Stonehenge became a leading symbol for the Druid revival, something the Vatican wanted no part of. As a result of the successful Druid Movement, Elizabeth conformed readily to the idea that marriage and birth-giving were natural cycles of the gods-given Earth. She married Edwardius Robert Dudley, 1st Earl of Leicester, in 1565. After much anticipation and anxiety, Elizabeth finally gave birth to Augustus Tudorius Taliesin I in 1575; Prince Taliesin succeeded his mother to the throne in 1603.

The nation’s identity as a Welsh state of Roman influence was solidified when, in 1599, Prince Taliesin suggested the name Cambria, a Roman version of Cymru, the Welsh name for Wales. The name was officially adopted November 3, 1601, and was declared the national holiday by Queen Elizabeth. Later, the name of the family line would be changed to Rosa, to reflect the Tudor rose. This incited a sweeping change of name for all noble Houses of Cambria, who would not be left out. Native flora and fauna became symbols - and names - for the oldest Houses. After a similar popular Druidic Movement, Ireland joined the United Kingdom of Cambria. Today, Cambria spans the world and is often informally referred to as the Cambrian Empire.

Comparison Points – Political: 2
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious: 2
Comparison Points – Economy: 3
Comparison Points – Military: 3
Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX): 10/10

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[Tracian Empire]

Reserved. App inbound.

Hey, Cy!

I'll try to get out a preliminary map by tonight.

[Tracian Empire]

As for myself, I'm going with nearly the same thing, but I was thinking of going slightly more Ottoman, and have that Ukrainian piece of coast that would unite Dobruja with Crimea.

[Cymrea]

As for myself, I'm going with nearly the same thing, but I was thinking of going slightly more Ottoman, and have that Ukrainian piece of coast that would unite Dobruja with Crimea.

Well, I submitted a very slightly different Cambria.

But I have been seriously considering submitting an app for a completely different country - Germany or France or Russia.

[Second Helghan Empire]

Hey Hey, How about a reservatioin for your old Hanseatic Pal? Haha

[Tracian Empire]

As for myself, I'm going with nearly the same thing, but I was thinking of going slightly more Ottoman, and have that Ukrainian piece of coast that would unite Dobruja with Crimea.

Well, I submitted a very slightly different Cambria.

But I have been seriously considering submitting an app for a completely different country - Germany or France or Russia.

Let your imagination run wild. I'm sorry for everyone, but we won't wait days or weeks for people to appear. I'll send one last TG to the rest of the OP board, and if nobody answers, their territories will be freed.

[Tracian Empire]

Hey Hey, How about a reservatioin for your old Hanseatic Pal? Haha

Speaking of the devil

[Second Helghan Empire]

Haha yep!

[Tracian Empire]

Haha yep!

So, exactly the same territory you had in the last thread?

[Cymrea]

If this one doesn't work out, or falls off again, I have an RP idea. Just for future consideration.

[Second Helghan Empire]

Haha yep!

So, exactly the same territory you had in the last thread?

Sure that will make it easier to transition anyway.

[Second Helghan Empire]

If this one doesn't work out, or falls off again, I have an RP idea. Just for future consideration.

Well I would be happy to be in a few rps

[Tracian Empire]

If this one doesn't work out, or falls off again, I have an RP idea. Just for future consideration.

You can say it even now, if you want.

But in regards to the Alternative series, if this one falls off again, we'll probably postpone it for April or something.

[Sanabel]

Tag. I am less busy now.

[Tracian Empire]

Tag. I am less busy now.

Hello, Kamerad

[Sanabel]

Tag. I am less busy now.

Hello, Kamerad

Been awhile. Why the new RP?

[Tracian Empire]

Hello, Kamerad

Been awhile. Why the new RP?

The old thread sort of just died. We've waited too long to make the IC, many people lost interest, others remained inactive, the last post in the IC was a few weeks ago.

So, we decided to give it another shot, while starting fully clean.

[Narintia]

Hey! I can't really copy and paste the reservation app, since I'm using my phone to type this, but may you reserve for me Estonia + Latvia + Lithuanian coast + Old Prussia for some Baltic pagan Old Livonia? thanks

[Tracian Empire]

Hey! I can't really copy and paste the reservation app, since I'm using my phone to type this, but may you reserve for me Estonia + Latvia + Lithuanian coast + Old Prussia for some Baltic pagan Old Livonia? thanks

Old Prussia has been reserved a few posts above by the Hanseatic League, but the rest is free.

[Narintia]

Hey! I can't really copy and paste the reservation app, since I'm using my phone to type this, but may you reserve for me Estonia + Latvia + Lithuanian coast + Old Prussia for some Baltic pagan Old Livonia? thanks

Old Prussia has been reserved a few posts above by the Hanseatic League, but the rest is free.

Alright, can I have the coast of modern Russia bordering St Petersburg instead? thanks