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is it wrong to punch a nazi?

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Postby Yamakaze » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:55 pm

No more or less than to punch a communist.

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Postby Gatito » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:55 pm

No. Bash the fucking fash.
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Postby Turan Turan Tun » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:55 pm

"Right" and "wrong" are pseudo concepts.
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Postby Polar Svalbard » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:56 pm

Yeah, generally its wrong to punch anyone unless they punched first. If they hit first feel free to regardless of political spectrum, race, or gender.
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Postby Ashmoria » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:56 pm

its wrong to suckerpunch a Nazi.

it is not wrong to punch a Nazi if he started it and you really need to defend yourself.
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:56 pm

Yes, it is wrong to punch a nazi, except in self defense.
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Postby Dai Shima » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:57 pm

Depends on the context of the situation.

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Postby Gatito » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:57 pm

Ashmoria wrote:its wrong to suckerpunch a Nazi.

it is not wrong to punch a Nazi if he started it and you really need to defend yourself.

I mean, when the Nazi in question says that he wants an ethnic genocide of America, you can pretty much be defending yourself when you punch them.
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Postby Turan Turan Tun » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:57 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:Yes, it is wrong to punch a nazi, except in self defense.

Why?
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Postby New CaliforniaRepublic » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:57 pm

Its illegal to assault someone.
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Postby Basseemia » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:57 pm

Yes it's wrong to punch anyone for their beliefs.
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Postby Turan Turan Tun » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:58 pm

New CaliforniaRepublic wrote:Its illegal to assault someone.

What does the law matter for?
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Postby Prusselanden » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:58 pm

Unless the hurt anyone, don't punch a Nazi because they're a Nazi.
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Postby Ashmoria » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:58 pm

Gatito wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:its wrong to suckerpunch a Nazi.

it is not wrong to punch a Nazi if he started it and you really need to defend yourself.

I mean, when the Nazi in question says that he wants an ethnic genocide of America, you can pretty much be defending yourself when you punch them.


no youre not.

you are only defending yourself if he tries to punch you and you cant withdraw.
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Postby Polar Svalbard » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:58 pm

Gatito wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:its wrong to suckerpunch a Nazi.

it is not wrong to punch a Nazi if he started it and you really need to defend yourself.

I mean, when the Nazi in question says that he wants an ethnic genocide of America, you can pretty much be defending yourself when you punch them.

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Postby Oldenfranck » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:58 pm

Depends on the circumstances. If they are peacefully out for a walk, and are not doing anything wrong, then yes. If they are in the process of trying to choke you to death, then yes, it is ok to punch them to defend your life.

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Postby Crockerland » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:59 pm

It is wrong to assault someone because of their beliefs, regardless of how heinous their beliefs are, that's how the national socialists operated in Germany and how antifa thugs and jihadists operate nowadays. It wouldn't be wrong to expel all nazis from your country or protest their abhorrent beliefs, but just assaulting them for disagreeing with you is wrong.
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Postby PaNTuXIa » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:59 pm

Gatito wrote:No. Bash the fucking fash.

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Postby Indo-Malaysia » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:59 pm

You should not punch anyone at all (Lest its self-defence). Even worse is punching them because of their political beliefs; even punching National Socialists/Nazis is bad.
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Postby PaNTuXIa » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:59 pm

yes, punching anyone for their political beliefs is disgusting.
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Postby Dytarma » Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:01 pm

No, you shouldn't punch someone for what ideology they believe in. It's like punching an Anarchist because the promote anarchy.
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Postby Turan Turan Tun » Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:02 pm

I have yet to see any explanation for why this action is "wrong". Are you going to stop virtue signalling now?

Anyone have absurd hypothetical thoughts about punching someone, what really matters is whether you can punch.
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Postby Polar Svalbard » Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:03 pm

Turan Turan Tun wrote:I have yet to see any explanation for why this action is "wrong". Are you going to stop virtue signalling now?

Anyone have absurd hypothetical thoughts about punching someone, what really matters is whether you can punch.

So I can punch a radical feminist because I abhor their beliefs?
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:04 pm

Turan Turan Tun wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:Yes, it is wrong to punch a nazi, except in self defense.

Why?


Because moral people do not attack other people?
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