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Officer treated for cancer with baking soda

Postby British Prussia » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:06 pm

The dying officer treated for cancer with baking soda - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-38650739 - FULL STORY HERE.

By Dr Giles Yeo and Tristan Quinn, San Diego.

The father of the alkaline diet, Robert O Young, is hailed as an inspiration by one of the UK's most popular food writers, Natasha Corrett, but he faces a jail sentence for practising medicine without a licence. One patient who believed he could cure her cancer, British Army officer Naima Houder-Mohammed, paid thousands of dollars for his alkaline treatment, which consisted mainly of intravenous infusions of baking soda.

"Naima was a fighter. She fought to get through selection for Sandhurst. She fought through Sandhurst and she fought her way through her life in everything she dealt with army skiing or whatever it may have been. And this for her was another fight in that long list of victories."

She came across Dr Robert O Young, an American alternative health writer selling a message of hope for cancer patients online.

In one email Young sent to Naima in July 2012, he told her "there is a great need for a daily regime focused on… hyper-perfusing the blood with alkalinity". He went on: "I would suggest your healing program is goingto take at least 8 - 12 weeks. It will not be easy but you will be in a controlled environment that will give you the care you need."

Naima set about raising the money she would need - in one email Young mentioned a figure of $3,000 (£2,440) per day.

Naima's family used their savings, ran fund-raising events and managed to pull together tens of thousands of pounds with the help of a charity so that Naima could be treated by Young.

All in all, Naima and her family paid Young more than $77,000 (£62,700) for the treatment.

After about three months at Young's facility, her condition worsened and she was taken to hospital. Naima was brought back to the UK and died with her family. She was 27.

Afzal Amin told us: "They feel utterly betrayed. It's just horrific that somebody could exploit people for money. This is I think for them the most disturbing element, that for something as cheap as money he was just able to destroy people's lives."

I absolutely agree.

In court it was revealed that he is not a medical doctor and bought his PhD from a diploma mill.

The outrage is real. I'm speechless.
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Postby Opplandia » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:09 pm

wow. such morons like that fake-doctor have to been taken down as quickly as possible. unbelievable that something like this can happen nowadays.
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Postby AsReil » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:13 pm

Even though what he did was against mainstream ethics, it did provide some relief.
He also didn't force her to do anything. Like he said, she made the decision to go there and pay on her own.

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Postby British Prussia » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:14 pm

Opplandia wrote:wow. such morons like that fake-doctor have to been taken down as quickly as possible. unbelievable that something like this can happen nowadays.

I can understand it happening, but what I don't understand is how authorities don't put a stop to it as soon as those exploitative bastards begin selling their fake medicine. There ought to be an organisation or website dedicated to this.
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Postby British Prussia » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:18 pm

Thunder Place wrote:I should have guessed he was a charlatan at "father of the alkaline diet", but it was "hailed as an inspiration by one of the UK's most popular food writers" that did it.

If you read the article, she said:

acidity in the body causes "dis-ease", which can show itself in "everyday discomforts" like acne, dry skin and bloating, "to much more serious illnesses, such as cancer, diabetes, heart disease and obesity".

She says Young "discovered that eating a plant-based diet free from processed foods can help to cure terminal diseases in the body".

that his work is not recognised by the medical industry, "perhaps because giant pharmaceutical organisations wouldn'tbe able to make money out of doctorsprescribing vegetables".

Usually, I facepalm, but people have been ripped off and people have died. Rage is building.
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Postby British Prussia » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:20 pm

Asreil wrote:Even though what he did was against mainstream ethics, it did provide some relief.
He also didn't force her to do anything. Like he said, she made the decision to go there and pay on her own.

Providing relief is fine, but profiting and selling her BS at her and her family and friend's expense is criminal. She may have made the decision to go there and pay, but that decision wased based on misinformation and lies.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:20 pm

See, it's crap like this that's why it's illegal to advertise anything as a cancer cure.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:22 pm

British Prussia wrote:
Thunder Place wrote:I should have guessed he was a charlatan at "father of the alkaline diet", but it was "hailed as an inspiration by one of the UK's most popular food writers" that did it.

If you read the article, she said:

acidity in the body causes "dis-ease", which can show itself in "everyday discomforts" like acne, dry skin and bloating, "to much more serious illnesses, such as cancer, diabetes, heart disease and obesity".

She says Young "discovered that eating a plant-based diet free from processed foods can help to cure terminal diseases in the body".

that his work is not recognised by the medical industry, "perhaps because giant pharmaceutical organisations wouldn'tbe able to make money out of doctorsprescribing vegetables".

Usually, I facepalm, but people have been ripped off and people have died. Rage is building.


I normally would dismiss this feeling of rage, but I can sympathize with you coming from a family that has physicians among us.
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Postby British Prussia » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:24 pm

Vassenor wrote:See, it's crap like this that's why it's illegal to advertise anything as a cancer cure.

On a slightly unrelated note, my sister's been quite obsessed with hydrogenated water recently, though I've been unable to find any conclusive evidence of it actually being beneficial to health. Furthermore, like this story, the water is on the expensive side.

This story is just one on a much, much larger scale...
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Postby Philjia » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:28 pm

British Prussia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:See, it's crap like this that's why it's illegal to advertise anything as a cancer cure.

On a slightly unrelated note, my sister's been quite obsessed with hydrogenated water recently, though I've been unable to find any conclusive evidence of it actually being beneficial to health. Furthermore, like this story, the water is on the expensive side.


If you're already healthy, a small dose of hydrogen won't have any particular effect on you.

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Postby British Prussia » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:31 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:I normally would dismiss this feeling of rage, but I can sympathize with you coming from a family that has physicians among us.

Same here. I have another sister who worked her ass off just to become a doctor. Pain, sweat and tears just to become one of the better ones. People like him shake the foundations of the people whom you should trust.

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British Prussia wrote:On a slightly unrelated note, my sister's been quite obsessed with hydrogenated water recently, though I've been unable to find any conclusive evidence of it actually being beneficial to health. Furthermore, like this story, the water is on the expensive side.

If you're already healthy, a small dose of hydrogen won't have any particular effect on you.

My inital thoughts exactly. She's been saving drops of it to put on her skin... I let her have that just because her fancy water won't break the bank and she isn't medically relying on it. She has asthma and eczema, which is being managed well but she doesn't have good skin as a result. That said, I don't believe, as you say, aside it from being unconclusive, small doses of hydrogen would make any impact.
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Postby Risottia » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:39 pm

British Prussia wrote:Afzal Amin told us: "They feel utterly betrayed.It's just horrific that somebody could exploit people for money. This is I think for them the most disturbing element, that for something as cheap as money he was just able to destroy people's lives."


This is what you get when you go to quacks who promise miracle cures instead of going to a normal hospital and following the standard cure validated by official science.
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Postby British Prussia » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:46 pm

Risottia wrote:
British Prussia wrote:Afzal Amin told us: "They feel utterly betrayed. It's just horrific that somebody could exploit people for money. This is I think for them the most disturbing element, that for something as cheap as money he was just able to destroy people's lives."

This is what you get when you go to quacks who promise miracle cures instead of going to a normal hospital and following the standard cure validated by official science.

"As her medical options were limited, Naima did what many of us would do - she turned to the internet for a solution."

She was desparate and vulnerable. I understand that. But still, I don't know how people can be educated in this type of scenario. Perhaps she didn't go to her doctor about this, perhaps her family and friends didn't know...
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Postby Atomic Utopia » Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:05 pm

Personally I think people like the scanner should be convicted of fraud and negligent homicide, but I know that it will never happen due to the money involved and the likelihood that the scanner would just hire himself a good lawyer.
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Postby The Princes of the Universe » Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:09 pm

Frauds like this really boil my blood... and that's all I dare to say.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:22 pm

You have to be a real piece of shit to do something like that.
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British Prussia wrote:
Risottia wrote:This is what you get when you go to quacks who promise miracle cures instead of going to a normal hospital and following the standard cure validated by official science.

"As her medical options were limited, Naima did what many of us would do - she turned to the internet for a solution."


I bloody well hope NOT.
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