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Deadly Life Jackets Sold to Migrants

Postby Wallenburg » Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:52 pm

BBC wrote:Police in Turkey say they have confiscated more than 1,000 fake life jackets made for migrants wanting to cross the Aegean Sea to Greece.

Officers raided a workshop in the port of Izmir, where they say they found life jackets stuffed with packaging rather than buoyancy aids.

The four workers making the jackets included two young Syrian girls.

On Tuesday, the bodies of 34 migrants were found along Turkey's coast. Many were wearing life jackets.

Several children were among the dead.

More than one million migrants crossed the Mediterranean in 2015 and the vast majority went from Turkey to Greece.

Many migrants buy life jackets to help them survive the dinghy journey. A properly made jacket costs up to a £100 (€130; $150), reports the BBC's James Reynolds in Istanbul.

But many migrants make do with cheaper, badly made ones, which cost just £10 and may offer no protection whatsoever, our correspondent says.

According to the UN, 3,771 people were listed as dead or missing in 2015.

In Wednesday's raid the authorities seized 1,263 life jackets that failed to correspond to safety standards, Turkey's Dogan news agency said. The workshop was in the centre of Izmir, a major hub for refugees and migrants.

Four people were found working in the workshop, including two young Syrian girls, the news agency said. It did not publish the girls' ages.
The confiscated life jackets have been sent to the local police for examination and an investigation has been launched.

It comes one day after the bodies of more than 30 migrants were washed up in Turkey. Their boats capsized in bad weather on the way to the Greek island of Lesbos, the authorities say.

Turkish media published harrowing images of the corpses, many still wearing life jackets that had apparently been of no use.

Migrants are continuing to arrive on the Greek islands every day, despite the wintry weather. Lesbos is by far the most popular destination for migrants leaving Turkey. More than 500,000 reached the island in 2015.

Late last year, Turkey reached a deal with the European Union to tighten its borders and reduce the numbers crossing to Greece in return for €3bn (£2.1bn) and political concessions.

So, the way I see it, there are only two possibilities. Either these jackets were designed to make a quick buck off of the desperation of migrants, or they were specifically designed to murder those migrants, and profit was an afterthought. In either case, this is absolutely unacceptable. It has cost many lives already, many of them children. I am glad that the Turkish government, despite its anti-migrant stance, has seized many of these jackets and is launching an investigation into what has happened here.

What say you, NSG?

UPDATE: Apparently this is about a year old, and so isn't really relevant as a thread topic. Sorry about that. Post if you want, though.
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Postby Aclion » Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:57 pm

Wallenburg wrote:So, the way I see it, there are only two possibilities. Either these jackets were designed to make a quick buck off of the desperation of migrants, or they were specifically designed to murder those migrants, and profit was an afterthought.


Is there any evidence of conspiracy?
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Postby Khalisako » Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:04 pm

Ever since erdogan, I don't hear much in the way of pozitiv acts from turkey in long time.

Hopefully the criminals are dealt with. No need for that garbage.
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Postby Wallenburg » Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:09 pm

Aclion wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:So, the way I see it, there are only two possibilities. Either these jackets were designed to make a quick buck off of the desperation of migrants, or they were specifically designed to murder those migrants, and profit was an afterthought.

Is there any evidence of conspiracy?

I'm going to wait for the investigation to yield results on that. Until then, it's certainly a possibility, but it could simply be a case of disregard for manufacturing and safety standards.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:09 pm

Aclion wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:So, the way I see it, there are only two possibilities. Either these jackets were designed to make a quick buck off of the desperation of migrants, or they were specifically designed to murder those migrants, and profit was an afterthought.


Is there any evidence of conspiracy?


Not as of yet, which is why that was presented as a supposition rather than an actual fact.
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Postby NeoLiberia » Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:22 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Aclion wrote:Is there any evidence of conspiracy?

I'm going to wait for the investigation to yield results on that. Until then, it's certainly a possibility, but it could simply be a case of disregard for manufacturing and safety standards.

I don't see why two Syrians would want to drown other Syrians like this.

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Postby Risottia » Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:27 pm

Wallenburg wrote:What say you, NSG?


*insert random rambling against the evil Turkish government stomping on economic freedom here*
*insert random comment about the free unregulated market providing best solution if there's a demand because free market fairy*

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Postby Lady Scylla » Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:54 pm

Good way to antagonize them so you get even more terrorist attacks.

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Postby Aclion » Sat Jan 14, 2017 3:39 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Aclion wrote:Is there any evidence of conspiracy?

I'm going to wait for the investigation to yield results on that. Until then, it's certainly a possibility, but it could simply be a case of disregard for manufacturing and safety standards.

It seems like an oddly specific scenario to base on nothing.
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Postby San Marlindo » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:05 pm

Aclion wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:I'm going to wait for the investigation to yield results on that. Until then, it's certainly a possibility, but it could simply be a case of disregard for manufacturing and safety standards.

It seems like an oddly specific scenario to base on nothing.


This.

The workshop employed Syrians and was probably run by Turks. Just like the people who manufacture counterfeit medications, they don't seem to have a vested interest in committing murder, just cutting corners and churning an unethical profit.

Sweat shops churning out counterfeit and unlicensed products of every description and use - including safety products - are commonplace these days.
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Postby Major-Tom » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:16 pm

Risottia wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:What say you, NSG?


*insert random rambling against the evil Turkish government stomping on economic freedom here*
*insert random comment about the free unregulated market providing best solution if there's a demand because free market fairy*

/hardcorelibertarian


*insert random comment about how we need to make this political even though its tragic because some people have to politicize humanitarian issues because of their own idiocy.*

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Postby USS Monitor » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:30 pm

I think it's people looking to make a quick buck, and ignoring other people's safety in the process. It's obviously a problem and it's good that the Turks are shutting it down, but it's probably being done out of desperation by people that were struggling to make ends meet and really needed the income.
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Postby New Grestin » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:00 pm

And then we wonder why these people are so prone to wanting to murder the West.
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Postby USS Monitor » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:28 pm

New Grestin wrote:And then we wonder why these people are so prone to wanting to murder the West.


"The West" isn't making the fake life jackets.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:43 pm

USS Monitor wrote:I think it's people looking to make a quick buck, and ignoring other people's safety in the process. It's obviously a problem and it's good that the Turks are shutting it down, but it's probably being done out of desperation by people that were struggling to make ends meet and really needed the income.


Not on that scale. On that scale it's being done by people with capital who want to make a quick buck and can be pretty sure that they won't get any complaints from people who find out the product is defective.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:46 pm

Oh come on. These poor bastards are losing everything so you figure you just rip them off? Scum of the earth, these guys
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Postby Galloism » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:51 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:I think it's people looking to make a quick buck, and ignoring other people's safety in the process. It's obviously a problem and it's good that the Turks are shutting it down, but it's probably being done out of desperation by people that were struggling to make ends meet and really needed the income.


Not on that scale. On that scale it's being done by people with capital who want to make a quick buck and can be pretty sure that they won't get any complaints from people who find out the product is defective.

Quite... i see this more likely to be depraved indifference than anything.
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Postby Wallenburg » Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:12 pm

NeoLiberia wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:I'm going to wait for the investigation to yield results on that. Until then, it's certainly a possibility, but it could simply be a case of disregard for manufacturing and safety standards.

I don't see why two Syrians would want to drown other Syrians like this.

Money comes to mind. It can be pretty hard to find a good job as a migrant.
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New Grestin wrote:And then we wonder why these people are so prone to wanting to murder the West.


"The West" isn't making the fake life jackets.

Turkey is often considered part of Western civilization, albeit a more recent readdition.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:30 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
NeoLiberia wrote:I don't see why two Syrians would want to drown other Syrians like this.

Money comes to mind. It can be pretty hard to find a good job as a migrant.
USS Monitor wrote:
"The West" isn't making the fake life jackets.

Turkey is often considered part of Western civilization, albeit a more recent readdition.


Though, with Erdogan, it's trying to run from that as fast as possible.

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Postby The East Marches » Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:31 pm

New Grestin wrote:And then we wonder why these people are so prone to wanting to murder the West.


I wasn't aware we were responsible for the life jacket quality in Turkey. :^)
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Postby Anollasia » Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:34 pm

This is old news. At least, I remember reading about this sometime last year. Either way, profiting off of something which may lead to someone's death is unacceptable.

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:35 pm

This is horrible.

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Postby Herskerstad » Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:36 pm

Jeez the sort of shit some humans will do for a buck.
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Postby Wallenburg » Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:37 pm

Anollasia wrote:This is old news. At least, I remember reading about this sometime last year.

Damn, you're right. Why the hell did this show up as recent news for me then?
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