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[DRAFT] U mad bro?

Postby Noahs Second Country » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:10 pm

I searched the spoiler thread for the word "meme" and received no results.
And this is what happens.


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1: Changed biggar to biggert, added validity
2: small change
3: "
4: Added option 4 as per Perland's request.
5: Changed "a" to "the"
6: Complete redraft.
7: Removed some memes.


[desc]With more and more people using the Internet every day, memes, or viral internet ideas, have spread across @@NAME@@ and made the Internet more and more popular. However, many countries, especially Bigtopia, have been offended by racist remarks found in certain memes. The angry Bigtopian ambassador has met with you in @@CAPITAL@@.

[validity]Large information technology, average intelligence, has computers, medium to high rudeness

[option]"The rights of our people have been infringed upon," claims @@RANDOMNAME@@, the Bigtopian ambassador, while disliking a new meme on UrFunny. "They call us biggerts! PewPewDie made a 5 minute video about cooking us Bigtopians, whatever that means! You better get rid of these meme thingys, or we will take military action!"
[effect]the only people who use social media are celebrities and photographers

[option]"Why can't you just ignore it?" asks @@RANDOMNAME@@, while adding extremely racist text to a picture he had just taken of the ambassador. "All I'm doing is giving people something to laugh about. It's all a joke, that's what people really need to understand. I'm sharing their culture for everyone to see. Maybe you should just tell everyone not to take them so serious, and we wouldn't have these triggered ambassadors." He finishes posting and immediately gets 67 likes on Twitcher.
[effect]over 9000 other countries have been angered by the latest memes.

[option]"Why so extreme?" asks your Minister of Finance, @@RANDOMNAME@@, while laughing at a random meme. "I like memes. They give some culture to @@NAME@@, and let us share what we want to share. However, there is a limit. Blatantly racist comments, such as calling people biggerts, should be banned. The government just needs to step in and monitor the internet, like a profanity filter for racism."
[effect]the word "white" is censored to prevent racism.

[option]"If anything, the Internet needs less censorship, not more," says @@RANDOMMALEFIRSTNAME@@ Poole, founder of the popular imageboard known as 5chun. "I mean, look at the good things we have done for the Internet. Creativity is everywhere, and by allowing people to be completely anonymous people can share great ideas that they may be too afraid to share with their actual identity. Make it harder for the government to use the internet against us, and you'll find that the general population is happier, smarter, and more creative."
[effect]Other nations are outright scared of @@NAME@@'s internet.
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Postby The United Providences of Perland » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:26 pm

You've captured my sense of humor in this issue and I'm equally ashamed as I am amused :rofl: I feel like 4chan should be in here somewhere as well, as it seems like a good narrative for the offensive part of it all. And man, if you had had say a frazzled news reporter (CNN and FOX are about to be suing me) trying to explain this when he/she has no damn idea what s/he is doing I might piss myself, but that's my personal need and should probably be ignored. But yeah, good issue. However, I think the term "biggar" might be pushing the line pretty hard...
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Postby Noahs Second Country » Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:27 pm

The United Providences of Perland wrote:You've captured my sense of humor in this issue and I'm equally ashamed as I am amused :rofl: I feel like 4chan should be in here somewhere as well, as it seems like a good narrative for the offensive part of it all. And man, if you had had say a frazzled news reporter (CNN and FOX are about to be suing me) trying to explain this when he/she has no damn idea what s/he is doing I might piss myself, but that's my personal need and should probably be ignored. But yeah, good issue. However, I think the term "biggar" might be pushing the line pretty hard...

Yeah, I will make these changes.
But as for biggar... I don't know what can seem offensive but not be offensive.
Obviously not bigger... maybe biggert?
Westinor wrote:Who knew the face of Big Farma could be the greatest hero of the Cards Proleteriat?
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Orcuo wrote:The plan was foolproof! Unfortunately, I didn’t make it Noah-proof.
WeKnow wrote:I am not a fan of his in the slightest.
Benevolent 0 wrote:You can't seem to ever portray yourself straight.
Bormiar wrote: reckless and greedy, closer to a character issue than something to be rewarded.
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Postby The United Providences of Perland » Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:28 pm

NoahS SeconD CountrY wrote:
The United Providences of Perland wrote:You've captured my sense of humor in this issue and I'm equally ashamed as I am amused :rofl: I feel like 4chan should be in here somewhere as well, as it seems like a good narrative for the offensive part of it all. And man, if you had had say a frazzled news reporter (CNN and FOX are about to be suing me) trying to explain this when he/she has no damn idea what s/he is doing I might piss myself, but that's my personal need and should probably be ignored. But yeah, good issue. However, I think the term "biggar" might be pushing the line pretty hard...

Yeah, I will make these changes.
But as for biggar... I don't know what can seem offensive but not be offensive.
Obviously not bigger... maybe biggert?

Biggert sounds better.
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Postby Nouveau Yathrib » Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:42 pm

This is pretty good, but I'd add another validity criterion. Nations with low rudeness levels aren't going to be terribly receptive to memes in the first place.
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Postby Noahs Second Country » Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:55 pm

Nouveau Yathrib wrote:This is pretty good, but I'd add another validity criterion. Nations with low rudeness levels aren't going to be terribly receptive of memes in the first place.

Thanks. I'll add that.
Westinor wrote:Who knew the face of Big Farma could be the greatest hero of the Cards Proleteriat?
Honeydewistania wrote:Such spunk and arrogance that he welcomes the brigade of hatred!
Orcuo wrote:The plan was foolproof! Unfortunately, I didn’t make it Noah-proof.
WeKnow wrote:I am not a fan of his in the slightest.
Benevolent 0 wrote:You can't seem to ever portray yourself straight.
Bormiar wrote: reckless and greedy, closer to a character issue than something to be rewarded.
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Postby Orostan » Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:57 pm

The United Providences of Perland wrote:You've captured my sense of humor in this issue and I'm equally ashamed as I am amused :rofl: I feel like 4chan should be in here somewhere as well, as it seems like a good narrative for the offensive part of it all. And man, if you had had say a frazzled news reporter (CNN and FOX are about to be suing me) trying to explain this when he/she has no damn idea what s/he is doing I might piss myself, but that's my personal need and should probably be ignored. But yeah, good issue. However, I think the term "biggar" might be pushing the line pretty hard...

The effect of a 4chan choice should be:
Other nations are outright scared of @@NATION NAME@@'s internet.
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Postby Dytarma » Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:59 pm

I see promise in this issue, but for the second option and the first sentence, is it supposed to be, "Y u no chill?" instead of "Yu no chill?"
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:49 pm

NoahS SeconD CountrY wrote:I searched the spoiler thread for the word "meme" and received no results.


The word comes up in one issue's effect line.

It also fails to appear in any current accepted submissions, but it exists 84 times in the last 9 months of deleted issues. Take that as you will. :)
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Postby Noahs Second Country » Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:52 pm

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:
NoahS SeconD CountrY wrote:I searched the spoiler thread for the word "meme" and received no results.


The word comes up in one issue's effect line.

It also fails to appear in any current accepted submissions, but it exists 84 times in the last 9 months of deleted issues. Take that as you will. :)

Consumption of cat memes have skyrocketed?
Westinor wrote:Who knew the face of Big Farma could be the greatest hero of the Cards Proleteriat?
Honeydewistania wrote:Such spunk and arrogance that he welcomes the brigade of hatred!
Orcuo wrote:The plan was foolproof! Unfortunately, I didn’t make it Noah-proof.
WeKnow wrote:I am not a fan of his in the slightest.
Benevolent 0 wrote:You can't seem to ever portray yourself straight.
Bormiar wrote: reckless and greedy, closer to a character issue than something to be rewarded.
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Postby Noahs Second Country » Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:53 pm

Also added a fourth option.

Not sure if it really fits... but yeah.
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Westinor wrote:Who knew the face of Big Farma could be the greatest hero of the Cards Proleteriat?
Honeydewistania wrote:Such spunk and arrogance that he welcomes the brigade of hatred!
Orcuo wrote:The plan was foolproof! Unfortunately, I didn’t make it Noah-proof.
WeKnow wrote:I am not a fan of his in the slightest.
Benevolent 0 wrote:You can't seem to ever portray yourself straight.
Bormiar wrote: reckless and greedy, closer to a character issue than something to be rewarded.
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Postby Hansdeltania » Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:57 pm

I suggest changing "ambassador" to "emissary." "Ambassador" is a specific person. In its description, you used "a" and not "the."
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Postby Noahs Second Country » Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:59 pm

Hansdeltania wrote:I suggest changing "ambassador" to "emissary." "Ambassador" is a specific person. In its description, you used "a" and not "the."

Changed "a" to "the" instead.
Thanks.
Westinor wrote:Who knew the face of Big Farma could be the greatest hero of the Cards Proleteriat?
Honeydewistania wrote:Such spunk and arrogance that he welcomes the brigade of hatred!
Orcuo wrote:The plan was foolproof! Unfortunately, I didn’t make it Noah-proof.
WeKnow wrote:I am not a fan of his in the slightest.
Benevolent 0 wrote:You can't seem to ever portray yourself straight.
Bormiar wrote: reckless and greedy, closer to a character issue than something to be rewarded.
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Postby Drasnia » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:03 pm

Option 2 needs more l33t h@xx0rz
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Postby Drayxaso » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:23 pm

Maybe you could add some sort of "Polandball option" encouraging the use of memes for intelligent satire and political commentary?
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Postby Trotterdam » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:36 am

"Meme" is not synonymous with "rude statement".

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Postby Australian rePublic » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:07 am

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Postby The United Providences of Perland » Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:45 am

Trotterdam wrote:"Meme" is not synonymous with "rude statement".

According to the board that classifies hate speech (which seems to be staffed with 90 year olds), Pepe the frog is hate speech. And on the topic of the issue, yay I got something in.
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Postby Noahs Second Country » Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:53 am

Drasnia wrote:Option 2 needs more l33t h@xx0rz

I can't put 420 too many memes into option 2. I'm also afraid of giving this issue too many options.
I guess I'll write the Polandball suggestion later when I have more time.
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Honeydewistania wrote:Such spunk and arrogance that he welcomes the brigade of hatred!
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Bormiar wrote: reckless and greedy, closer to a character issue than something to be rewarded.
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Postby Noahs Second Country » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:32 pm

Bump.
Westinor wrote:Who knew the face of Big Farma could be the greatest hero of the Cards Proleteriat?
Honeydewistania wrote:Such spunk and arrogance that he welcomes the brigade of hatred!
Orcuo wrote:The plan was foolproof! Unfortunately, I didn’t make it Noah-proof.
WeKnow wrote:I am not a fan of his in the slightest.
Benevolent 0 wrote:You can't seem to ever portray yourself straight.
Bormiar wrote: reckless and greedy, closer to a character issue than something to be rewarded.
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Postby The United Providences of Perland » Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:03 pm

If you want a freaky compromise option, you could go with one where the leader just says f it, and starts making his/her own memes by say having a government meme page or something, cause why not e.e And the effect can be something like "@@LEADER@@ spends more time subtly insulting foreign diplomats than running the country."
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Postby Noahs Second Country » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:35 am

The United Providences of Perland wrote:If you want a freaky compromise option, you could go with one where the leader just says f it, and starts making his/her own memes by say having a government meme page or something, cause why not e.e And the effect can be something like "@@LEADER@@ spends more time subtly insulting foreign diplomats than running the country."

It seems too stereotypical for an option.
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WeKnow wrote:I am not a fan of his in the slightest.
Benevolent 0 wrote:You can't seem to ever portray yourself straight.
Bormiar wrote: reckless and greedy, closer to a character issue than something to be rewarded.
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Postby Abhichandra » Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:38 am

For the validity, also add that there needs to be a capital

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Postby Kentalia » Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:55 am

Noah, only you would author an issue filled with such memes. Loving your references, "It's time to stop," is just great.

On an issue authoring note, I think the validity of the issue (Based on option four) should include nations who have some form of censorship already is place (I.E Low-Mid Political freedoms) since you mention having more censorship, which means censorship must pre-exist.
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Postby Helaw » Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:37 pm

The main difficulty with issues such as this is that they may become outdated. Memes such as "Over 9000" or references to 4chan and iFunny could be argued to be timeless, but more recent phrases such as "It's time to stop" may have an expiry date that we cannot yet predict. While it is a reasonable phrase to use when ignoring the meme behind it, it may seem quite jarring in terms of sentence structure in future. Even now, to both those that know the meme and those that do not, it reads in a stilted manner.

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