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Urgently requesting aid against pro-ISIS rebels [OOC]

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Urgently requesting aid against pro-ISIS rebels [OOC]

Postby Diyaristan » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:06 pm

Well, here's the thread.

I would be concerned about GMing in this instance if:

- Diyaristan had military forces in Yarlaq at the time
- Wilayah al-Kala hadn't basically vanished from the city
- Other nations (Christoslavia, for instance) were specifically attacked there, with no chance to respond

I can only assume the poster had just capitalized on a power vacuum in the area. If that happens a second time to others' forces rather than just my defenseless civilians, though, that would be pretty clear evidence of godmoding. Unfortunately, I do not know which rebels they were supporting - the pro-ISIS ones, the ones planning to rebel against ISIS, or the relatively unknown Revolutionary Defeatists. I think it's lack of past RP experience on the poster's part...

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Postby Nachfolgia » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:13 pm

This is good. I am glad that there is finally a OOC thread.

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Postby Rupudska » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:24 pm

I assume they'd operate supporting the 'rebels' that have been the most visible so far in the RP, that is, the pro-ISIS rebels.
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Postby Nachfolgia » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:55 pm

Rupudska wrote:I assume they'd operate supporting the 'rebels' that have been the most visible so far in the RP, that is, the pro-ISIS rebels.


Rup!!! Long time no see!!

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Postby Christoslavia » Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:14 pm

i agree that due to their lack of experience they may just be a tad bit confused and if he comes back we could give him a crash course
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Postby Rupudska » Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:45 pm

Christoslavia wrote:i agree that due to their lack of experience they may just be a tad bit confused and if he comes back we could give him a crash course


Or just show him to the sticky. Though since he's posting one-liners I'm not sure if he'd read it.
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Rupudska wrote:So do you fight with AK-47s or something even more primitive? Since I doubt any economy could reasonably sustain itself that way.
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Postby Rupudska » Thu Dec 01, 2016 6:01 am

Should have a link to the IC in the OP, OP.
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with airstrikes from girls with wings to their knees
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Rupudska wrote:So do you fight with AK-47s or something even more primitive? Since I doubt any economy could reasonably sustain itself that way.
Presumably they use advanced technology like STRIKE WITCHES

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Hi! I've decided to join this role play.

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Postby Diyaristan » Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:40 pm

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=393884

Here's the link. Welcome to everyone who's decided to join, apologies for taking so long to respond to all the deployment requests.
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Postby Minroz » Fri Dec 02, 2016 2:47 am

Btw, is anyone going to provide humanitarian aid? I was planning to do so as well as deploying my Spec-Ops teams. Surely, it's a war-torn nation we're talking about, dealing with both ISIS-knockoffs and Communist rebels. Definitely not an easy feat.

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Postby Arctica-Aleutia » Fri Dec 02, 2016 3:44 pm

Say, is Yarlaq still held by ISIS? If not I'll need to focus my attacks elsewhere. Sorry I haven't had time to post lately.
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Postby Christoslavia » Fri Dec 02, 2016 3:56 pm

Arctica-Aleutia wrote:Say, is Yarlaq still held by ISIS? If not I'll need to focus my attacks elsewhere. Sorry I haven't had time to post lately.


If I've interpreted everything correctly, my forces have taken Yarlaq and are assaulting retreating ISIS troops although I'm waiting for them to respond before I press on with any attack
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Postby Rupudska » Fri Dec 02, 2016 4:50 pm

I believe the rebels are currently trying to push towards the capital at the moment.
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Hladgos wrote:Scantly clad women, more like tanks
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with airstrikes from girls with wings to their knees
which show a bit more than just their panties

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Rupudska wrote:So do you fight with AK-47s or something even more primitive? Since I doubt any economy could reasonably sustain itself that way.
Presumably they use advanced technology like STRIKE WITCHES

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Postby Liberated Free Nations » Fri Dec 02, 2016 4:55 pm

To North American Military Union:

If there's a war against the North American Military Union going to happen, I am thinking about having some of it in another thread for operations against the LFN mainland. I declared war fully expecting an endgame, being defeated, and having serious and irreversible governmental and societal changes. But be aware that:

Computers are banned in the LFN except for a few hackers in the Party Center, let alone Internet access. Internet-based counter-propaganda is not likely to work except in cases where territory is already liberated from the LFN and computers, plus infrastructure, are donated.

Civil rights of any kind are unimaginable. Gatherings of less than three people or more than 15, or with anyone outside their assigned "commune", are seen as suspicious and dealt with accordingly.

No true population centers exist, having been violently depopulated. The capital of Engelstopia has at maximum 15 residents, though mines and factories can temporarily swell to thousands during field-trip production drives. Political rallies have also happened in Engelstopia.

Past propaganda has equated diplomatic gifts and foreign aid with fearful foreign bourgeoisie being forced to pay tribute to the working class by the formidable weaponry of "its" Revolutionary Army.

The Party Center and its "militant vanguard" (armed forces), in past incidents, has demonstrated its complete disregard for civilian lives and makes no distinction between civilians and military. Instances of cannibalism have been reported during hardship times where civilians were "asked to make the ultimate sacrifice for the Revolution".

The best chance for defeating the DRLFN lies in cutting off channels of addictive substances, which are used as a tool of population control and cannot be domestically manufactured. The growing autonomy of local military units in practice as central Party control mechanisms weaken from the purges can be used as a source of internal friction as long as Political Freedoms remain above "Unheard Of"; they seem to be going up no matter what I try to do to push them down.
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Postby Arengin Union » Fri Dec 02, 2016 6:01 pm

Hello Arengin here. I couldn't hold but be tmepted by this.

can i bomb the rebels to the stone age????
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Postby Emmerian Republic » Fri Dec 02, 2016 6:09 pm

So, whose side is fighting who?
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Postby Rupudska » Fri Dec 02, 2016 6:56 pm

Emmerian Republic wrote:So, whose side is fighting who?


As far as I know it's everyone (except LFN, who's supporting the ISIS rebels, and Neuwland, who's being an isolationist babby) against the ISIS rebels.

Speaking of which LFN would you mind if some of my Tornadoes take out some of your forces near Izriktar? What would your forces there be anyway?

UPDATE: The Ju-500's capabilities will be put down as soon as I'm sure what they are. For now assume they're similar to a modernized B-52 or Tu-95.
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Hladgos wrote:Scantly clad women, more like tanks
seem to be blowing up everyones banks
with airstrikes from girls with wings to their knees
which show a bit more than just their panties

Questers wrote:
Rupudska wrote:So do you fight with AK-47s or something even more primitive? Since I doubt any economy could reasonably sustain itself that way.
Presumably they use advanced technology like STRIKE WITCHES

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Postby Liberated Free Nations » Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:50 pm

I wouldn't mind at all. A lot of tanks (almost all 1,500) and artillery are there, backed by intermediate-range ballistic missiles. There's a few flak cannons, but not enough to make an aerial attack impossible. The deadliest thing in our arsenal is possibly missile-mounted biological weapons, which shouldn't affect air units.

Foot soldiers (numbering about 400 in Izriktar as the rest disperse all over the country) are equipped to operate in an NBC environment and mostly have experience in irregular warfare, but not conventional so well.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat Dec 03, 2016 8:13 pm

Would it be useful to mention at this stage that the Emperordom of Ostmark (moi), and the Empire of Fusou (my alt) and possibly Rupudska (Holy Romagnan Empire of Karlsland)'s SOP in case of biological or chemical agents attack is basically can of worms? Open it and you get to be responsible for having VX and Novichok fired at you from MLRS batteries. :3 Of course we would have no issues with it if OP decides to ban CBRN warfare from his thread, but if not... I haven't dropped Novichok on somebody ever. :p
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Postby Rupudska » Sat Dec 03, 2016 8:19 pm

Liberated Free Nations wrote:I wouldn't mind at all. A lot of tanks (almost all 1,500) and artillery are there, backed by intermediate-range ballistic missiles. There's a few flak cannons, but not enough to make an aerial attack impossible. The deadliest thing in our arsenal is possibly missile-mounted biological weapons, which shouldn't affect air units.

Foot soldiers (numbering about 400 in Izriktar as the rest disperse all over the country) are equipped to operate in an NBC environment and mostly have experience in irregular warfare, but not conventional so well.


Well as long as you don't use it on us, you'll be fine.

If you do though you can expect it to rain VX and snow anthrax :3
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Hladgos wrote:Scantly clad women, more like tanks
seem to be blowing up everyones banks
with airstrikes from girls with wings to their knees
which show a bit more than just their panties

Questers wrote:
Rupudska wrote:So do you fight with AK-47s or something even more primitive? Since I doubt any economy could reasonably sustain itself that way.
Presumably they use advanced technology like STRIKE WITCHES

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Postby Wilayah al-Kala » Sun Dec 04, 2016 1:52 am

Diyaristan here. I figure I might as well announce it at last: LFN is one of my alts. I threw them in knowing ISIS wasn't going to last much longer with all this force arrayed against them, and wanted to make the fight slightly fairer...

The LFN has a confirmed stockpile of its own Novichok agents (the last post on page 1) and is crazy enough to launch them. Yes, they will probably get annihilated along with ISIS. And defeat will be sparking a major uprising in their country after Diyaristan is finally safe, whether the international community ultimately chooses to get involved there afterward or not.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Dec 04, 2016 2:11 am

K then... gloves off it is I presume? :P
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