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Transgender Discussion Thread III: Vote in our poll!

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What should the first subtitle of our next thread be?

Trans Men Are Not Women
23
24%
Anti-Cistamines
10
10%
Please Don't Deadnaming Eve
3
3%
Is This Destroying My Free Speech
8
8%
We Know More About This Than You
11
11%
HRT And Crumpets
26
27%
Pro-Nouns & Anti-Verbs
16
16%
 
Total votes : 97

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Auzkhia
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Postby Auzkhia » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:43 pm

Lefty Canuckia wrote:It's almost like every time I remake on this website there's somehow even more fascists on here than before

errrr, what's up ladies and germs. I am a 19 year old pre everything trans girl. I kinda need to get out of the bubble of transfemme tumblr which is kinda all over the place, so I'm gonna check in here every now and then.

Has anyone else seen that new Toyota commercial with the trans woman? It's kinda unnerving me, I don't like that transness is increasingly commodifiable

Rainbow capitalism, it's more profitable to care about us now instead of thinking of LGBTQ people as too risky. It's riding on the backs of popular opinion but it's not real support, at least they don't need the bigot money anymore. I actually haven't seen it.

I've stopped using tumblr after the whole porn ban fiasco.
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Postby Grenartia » Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:49 am

Hediacrana wrote:
Grenartia wrote:On a related note, I'm gonna take the plunge and come out to my mom's side of the family (except my mom and aunt, who already know and are accepting). Hopefully, things will go well.
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Good luck - I'll keep you in my prayers. :hug:


Thanks. Though, my safety ride is apparently unavailable, so I might have to delay it. Which I'd rather not do.

Flaireis wrote:
Technocratic Uganda wrote:Why though? You can still recognise them as people at the same time. In terms of the ethics of chasers.

Except that's hard to do. Fundamentally, chasing is basically a fetish. When you are attracted to a partner explicitly because of what amounts to a fetish, you're going to objectify them in a way that makes a meaningful relationship really hard. It's OK to be attracted to trans people, I fully condone it (for obvious reasons), but having a distinct attraction to trans women and intentionally seeking them out is objectification.
-It's OK to have a type.
-(obviously) It's OK to be attracted to trans people.
Chasing doesn't lead to gratifying or meaningful relationships. You can recognize someone as human while still harmfully objectifying them, and chasing counts as that. It can fit the bill perfectly, in some cases.


Pretty much this. Also, I'm proud of all of yall for how yall handled this, even though the user ended up being DEAT.



I'm going to have to look into my state's medicaid policy on transition-related care...



What's this, the 5th state now?

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:So, I took the plunge and came out to my brother and then to my mother. I'm not ready to come out to my Dad or my sister yet. My brother couldn't take it very seriously, I don't think he knows how to respond really, but he doesn't hate me or anything, so there's that. When I told my mother, she didn't get mad, but she had a blank expression like she was jaded or disappointed. It made it very awkward. She said "Xeno, we'll still love you no matter what, but this seems kind of sudden..." She said that we would organize to see a psych soon. I honestly don't know what to make of it.


Did you point out the irony of her saying that after she got onto your brother for making that one joke during game night?

And hopefully, the psych will help her along.

I guess in my case, my first response to the "this is sudden" line would be to tell my family I've been sitting on this for nearly 8 damn years at this point.

Lefty Canuckia wrote:It's almost like every time I remake on this website there's somehow even more fascists on here than before

errrr, what's up ladies and germs. I am a 19 year old pre everything trans girl. I kinda need to get out of the bubble of transfemme tumblr which is kinda all over the place, so I'm gonna check in here every now and then.

Has anyone else seen that new Toyota commercial with the trans woman? It's kinda unnerving me, I don't like that transness is increasingly commodifiable


Wait a minute. Hold on a second.

There's a Toyota commercial? Who the hell let that happen?

:P

Philjia wrote:
Lefty Canuckia wrote:It's almost like every time I remake on this website there's somehow even more fascists on here than before

errrr, what's up ladies and germs. I am a 19 year old pre everything trans girl. I kinda need to get out of the bubble of transfemme tumblr which is kinda all over the place, so I'm gonna check in here every now and then.

Has anyone else seen that new Toyota commercial with the trans woman? It's kinda unnerving me, I don't like that transness is increasingly commodifiable

No aspect of counterculture is safe from commercialisation.


Commercialism is kind of like those memory parasites from that episode of Rick and Morty. Actually, scratch that. Its exactly like that.

Nothing is sacred, every memory, every good feeling, every positive aspect of your identity, all of that can and will be used to turn a profit.

Auzkhia wrote:
Lefty Canuckia wrote:It's almost like every time I remake on this website there's somehow even more fascists on here than before

errrr, what's up ladies and germs. I am a 19 year old pre everything trans girl. I kinda need to get out of the bubble of transfemme tumblr which is kinda all over the place, so I'm gonna check in here every now and then.

Has anyone else seen that new Toyota commercial with the trans woman? It's kinda unnerving me, I don't like that transness is increasingly commodifiable

Rainbow capitalism, it's more profitable to care about us now instead of thinking of LGBTQ people as too risky. It's riding on the backs of popular opinion but it's not real support, at least they don't need the bigot money anymore. I actually haven't seen it.


To be fair, the one thing about rainbow capitalism that I like is it provides me with a consistent stream of bigot's tears to subsist off of.

I've stopped using tumblr after the whole porn ban fiasco.


Fam, I only barely went there for porn anyways.
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Fri Apr 19, 2019 3:07 am

Grenartia wrote:Did you point out the irony of her saying that after she got onto your brother for making that one joke during game night?

And hopefully, the psych will help her along.

I guess in my case, my first response to the "this is sudden" line would be to tell my family I've been sitting on this for nearly 8 damn years at this point.

I think she means sudden as in only within the last month.
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Postby Grenartia » Fri Apr 19, 2019 3:19 am

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Grenartia wrote:Did you point out the irony of her saying that after she got onto your brother for making that one joke during game night?

And hopefully, the psych will help her along.

I guess in my case, my first response to the "this is sudden" line would be to tell my family I've been sitting on this for nearly 8 damn years at this point.

I think she means sudden as in only within the last month.


Yeah. But certain members of my family are so damn oblivious that they actually might think its "sudden" in my case.
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Postby Grenartia » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:32 am

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Mostly a girl. She or they pronouns, please. Unrepentant transbian.
Reject tradition, embrace modernity.
People who call themselves based NEVER are.
The truth about kids transitioning.

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