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Greater Persian State
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Postby Greater Persian State » Sun Dec 04, 2016 4:39 pm

Prime Akbar piped up saying "May we discuss the DEU pipeline projects?"
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New Metropolitan France
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Postby New Metropolitan France » Sun Dec 04, 2016 6:25 pm

Greater Persian State wrote:Prime Akbar piped up saying "May we discuss the DEU pipeline projects?"

"Certainly. Once the Greek-Turkish treaty is signed, the second stage of the pipeline will be almost completed."

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Empire of the United Kingdom
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Postby Empire of the United Kingdom » Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:42 am

Is the pipeline neutral? If not, which authority can simply shut off the supply to DEU members?
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Postby New Metropolitan France » Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:47 am

Empire of the United Kingdom wrote:Is the pipeline neutral? If not, which authority can simply shut off the supply to DEU members?

"Good question. The pipeline is being administered in an official role by the DEU: if there was a leak, or any form of problem with the operation of the pipeline then DEU officials would address it. In a more practical sense, the USSR could shut off their exports at any time due to them physically controlling the oil source."

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Greater Persian State
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Postby Greater Persian State » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:33 am

"Where is the pipeline going to go through?"
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Postby New Metropolitan France » Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:06 pm

"This second stage will travel from the Caucuses in the USSR through Turkey into Greece. From there, the pipeline will travel up into the Balkans, specifically the Slavic State. I believe a third stage regarding Kalmar oil was also discussed at one point."

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Greater Persian State
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Postby Greater Persian State » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:21 pm

"Is there any possibility that it could cut through North-western Persia?"
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Postby New Metropolitan France » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:24 pm

"For what purpose?"

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Greater Persian State
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Postby Greater Persian State » Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:25 pm

New Metropolitan France wrote:"For what purpose?"

"Persia would be glad to pay for a minor re-routing through Persia for our infrastructure and job creation."
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Postby New Metropolitan France » Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:07 pm

"Assuming this is the same proposition offered at the last conference, I would remain against it as it would contribute nothing to Europe. Persia is not an oil importer, and so the pipeline going into Persia would make zero sense."

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Postby Empire of the United Kingdom » Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:26 pm

The pipeline isn't a cash-cow, it is for fluid transfer of oil - therefore the flow from Persia would stay FROM, and would not contribute financially. We agree with the French representative.
Talking of the pipeline, as a pipeline into the British Isles would be too expensive we wish to continue with our current ship based transfer.
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Sovereign Nation of Ladvania
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Postby Sovereign Nation of Ladvania » Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:47 am

If it is crossing through the SSS and turkey wouldn't it be a kind proposal to have it enter through a small region of ladvania aswell?
Oil has become scarce in Ladvania and would be ultimately gone if it were not for the DEU trade pact

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New Metropolitan France
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Postby New Metropolitan France » Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:21 am

Sovereign Nation of Ladvania wrote:If it is crossing through the SSS and turkey wouldn't it be a kind proposal to have it enter through a small region of ladvania aswell?
Oil has become scarce in Ladvania and would be ultimately gone if it were not for the DEU trade pact

"I am certain we can arrange this, either by extending the first stage or the current pipeline being built."

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Postby Sovereign Nation of Ladvania » Fri Dec 09, 2016 12:17 pm

New Metropolitan France wrote:
Sovereign Nation of Ladvania wrote:If it is crossing through the SSS and turkey wouldn't it be a kind proposal to have it enter through a small region of ladvania aswell?
Oil has become scarce in Ladvania and would be ultimately gone if it were not for the DEU trade pact

"I am certain we can arrange this, either by extending the first stage or the current pipeline being built."

I am willing to fund this construction through my nation greatly, and contribute to building it across the continent aswell

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Greater Persian State
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Postby Greater Persian State » Fri Dec 09, 2016 4:12 pm

Akbar quietly grumbled and went back to ignoring everyone.
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Postby Greater Persian State » Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:23 am

Akbar piped up again.
"Persia is offering to export oil through the pipeline."
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New Metropolitan France
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Postby New Metropolitan France » Sat Dec 10, 2016 7:30 pm

"That would improve the prosperity of Europe, so I would definitely be open to such an arrangement."

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The Southern Slavic State
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Postby The Southern Slavic State » Sat Dec 10, 2016 7:47 pm

Greater Persian State wrote:Akbar piped up again.
"Persia is offering to export oil through the pipeline."

"Now You are offering your oil yet you boycotted our country earlier. Why changed your mind? The Slavic state is part of Europe too "

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Greater Persian State
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Postby Greater Persian State » Sat Dec 10, 2016 7:51 pm

"That surprises me. Considering the SSS spends all its time in South America." replied Akbar to the Slav. Looking down upon that fool. He then turned to the French President. "Unfortunately, trade embargoes by Persia will still apply. But we will export oil to all European nations which we have no trade sanctions with. Which is basically everyone."
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The Southern Slavic State
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Postby The Southern Slavic State » Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:10 pm

" Dont you look down on me. Your wicked actions will bring your country to a crash."

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Postby Imperialist Sweden » Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:48 pm

"Simmer down. Let's talk about the next stage: we would indeed like for the pipeline to be connected to the Kalmar Union pipelines so that we can export Norwegian oil to the rest of Europe more effectively."

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New Metropolitan France
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Postby New Metropolitan France » Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:56 pm

"Let me have my aide pass around a brief summary of future DEU stages which have been proposed."

1. USSR-Turkey-Greece-SSS.
2. USSR-Ukraine-SNL.
3. USSR-Turkey-SSS-SNL.
4. USSR-Calindelo-SNL.
5. KU-Prussia.
5. Persia-Turkey.

"What are your thoughts on each of these?"

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Empire of the United Kingdom
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Postby Empire of the United Kingdom » Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:19 pm

We have no problem with engaging the USSR, Turkey, Greece, Ukraine or Prussia in the pipeline.
We support the KU's proposition, however would that not be incredibly expensive? And also, Persia would be a huge cost. And we do not consider it being a good idea for a major pipeline to pass through unstable land, as an added note, not directed towards a specific nation.
I'm very good at integral and differential calculus;
I know the scientific names of beings animalculous:
In short, in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral,

I am the very model of a modern Major-General.
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Postby New Metropolitan France » Sun Dec 11, 2016 12:44 am

Empire of the United Kingdom wrote:We have no problem with engaging the USSR, Turkey, Greece, Ukraine or Prussia in the pipeline.
We support the KU's proposition, however would that not be incredibly expensive? And also, Persia would be a huge cost. And we do not consider it being a good idea for a major pipeline to pass through unstable land, as an added note, not directed towards a specific nation.

"An undersea pipeline would be the best option. That brings the risk of environmental damages, as well as the difficulty in building it, however British engineers were able to construct such a pipeline from the UK to the French coast during the liberation of Metropolitan France from the Axis in the lead up to the Normandy Landings. I believe that such a pipeline can be built from Sweden or Finland to Denmark and the rest of the Continent. That would allow easy KU inclusion."

Leonard reviewed some notes regarding pipeline plans that would pass through Turkey.

"With the current high oil price I think that a pipeline involving Persia as an exporter into Turkey would be profitable to construct. Security fears would need to be addressed however. What guarantees does this council have of Persia's security capabilities along such a long pipeline?"

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Greater Persian State
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Postby Greater Persian State » Sun Dec 11, 2016 6:27 am

"Persia is a stable and competent nation. It is insulting to hear the British delegation disregard that. Persia can easily protect this pipeline."

OOC: To be clear. persia is perfectly stable
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