How does gay marriage undermine straight marriage?

[Tokos]

I understand why you'd say that, but I feel the opposite. I think divorce strengthens marriage as an institution, because it helps to ensure that the people who are married are people who are genuinely committed to their union and WANT to be married. Granted, it's not perfect, and lots of unhappily married folks still trudge away without getting divorced, but I think divorce helps rather than hinders.

The assumption that one can just divorce if anything goes wrong or if you're bored or whatever hardly strengthens marriage. People who do not believe in divorce are more likely to attempt to work out problems, rather than divorce for bullshite reasons like "differences in temperament".

[Bottle]

I understand why you'd say that, but I feel the opposite. I think divorce strengthens marriage as an institution, because it helps to ensure that the people who are married are people who are genuinely committed to their union and WANT to be married. Granted, it's not perfect, and lots of unhappily married folks still trudge away without getting divorced, but I think divorce helps rather than hinders.

The assumption that one can just divorce if anything goes wrong or if you're bored or whatever hardly strengthens marriage.

I think it does. I think the fact that you CAN leave whenever you want makes marriage better, because I don't believe marriage is a strong institution if you simply force more people to stick with it.

Or, put it another way, the only marriages I consider "strong" are the ones where both parties freely choose to be committed to one another. If the choice isn't free, then the commitment isn't strong (in my eyes), and the institution becomes meaningless.

[Antiacedia]

I don't really want to end the divorce discussion, but would you mind moving it to another thread?

Sweet! I almost never find other UU's.

I'm a UU. It's part of why I started this topic. I'm trying to get the real doctrinal argument. Unfortunately we have a lot of people who just want to hear themselves talk (type?), so instead of answering the question they just argue about the issue. I am especially aggravated by the people who quote the part where I ask that they not respond with a dismissal before issuing a dismissal.

I don't know if I've actually seen any on-topic responses in this thread yet.

Really, if we don't get this back to my original question soon I'm going to ask the mod to lock this so I can try to repost the topic.

[A mean old man]

"How does gay marriage undermine straight marriage?"

Gay married couples seek out buildings or areas where straight couples are being wed, and will tunnel underneath these areas in spots that would cause the earth above to become unsupported and the buidings to become structurally unsound. The gay couples would then tunnel out of the way and either wait until the earth above collapsed into the holes and destroyed the buildings in which the straight couples were getting married, or would plant charges to help the process along. Whether gay marriage is allowed or not, it would not prevent gays from being able to undermine straight marriages. Heterosexuals as well have the ability to undermine buildings in which homosexual marriages are taking place, so it is not a one-way battle. The only solutions would be to heavily monitor the vibrations in the earth around the areas where couples were being married and be able to tell whether an undermining was occurring, or to be careful to keep heavy machinery meant for tunneling out of the hands of young couples who make it their goal to ruin the weddings of those of different sexualities.

[Karsol]

"How does gay marriage undermine straight marriage?"

Gay married couples seek out buildings or areas where straight couples are being wed, and will tunnel underneath these areas in spots that would cause the earth above to become unsupported and the buidings to become structurally unsound. The gay couples would then tunnel out of the way and either wait until the earth above collapsed into the holes and destroyed the buildings in which the straight couples were getting married, or would plant charges to help the process along. Whether gay marriage is allowed or not, it would not prevent gays from being able to undermine straight marriages. Heterosexuals as well have the ability to undermine buildings in which homosexual marriages are taking place, so it is not a one-way battle. The only solutions would be to heavily monitor the vibrations in the earth around the areas where couples were being married and be able to tell whether an undermining was occurring, or to be careful to keep heavy machinery meant for tunneling out of the hands of young couples who make it their goal to ruin the weddings of those of different sexualities.

I feel like sitting on your knee and be rocked gently, listening to your senile rambling for hours, very entertaining.