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Separatist Peoples
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Founded: Feb 17, 2011
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Separatist Peoples » Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:46 am

Promisit Dominus wrote:This Resolution is trying to interfere with the court systems of our respective nations. It may work for some, but not all of our nations, in the long run I don't think that this Resolution will work. There will be a rebellion on the nations that have a different court system, this Resolution should not pass.

"Nobody rioted the last four hundred times. You'll forgive me ignoring such utter claptrap."

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Separatist Peoples should RESIGN!

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Justosia
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Founded: Sep 06, 2018
Democratic Socialists

Postby Justosia » Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:57 am

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While ardently Laizee-Faire Capitalist, de Government Royale of the Holy Kingdom of Justosia supports this legislation. As we already have firm protections for our working class. Similar to this resolution. The delicate balance of worker's rights & economic output must always be maintained.

Of course we reserve our right to change our YAY vote or more should the aforementioned resolution ultimately harm our GDP.

Felipe Marcis
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The Continental Empire of Justosia
Emperatriz Annabella Sofia Francisco I
"God. Emperatriz. Empire."

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Erithaca
Envoy
 
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Founded: Apr 10, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Erithaca » Wed Oct 24, 2018 1:01 pm

"This is some high-quality legislative writing that grants some good worker's rights. The "jargon" can easily be understood and I appreciate the abscence of definitions. Erithaca is fully in support of this proposal."

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Promisit Dominus
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Founded: Oct 23, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Promisit Dominus » Wed Oct 24, 2018 1:42 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Promisit Dominus wrote:This Resolution is trying to interfere with the court systems of our respective nations. It may work for some, but not all of our nations, in the long run I don't think that this Resolution will work. There will be a rebellion on the nations that have a different court system, this Resolution should not pass.

"Nobody rioted the last four hundred times. You'll forgive me ignoring such utter claptrap."

Nobody rioted the last four hundred times. You'll forgive me ignoring such utter claptrap."[/quote]
I said rebellion, not riot. Besides, I am not 100% disagreeing with the Resolution and I understand the concern but, I believe that each country has their own way of a fair trial, it shouldn't be our job as WA members to make that decision for them.

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Arasi Luvasa
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Founded: Aug 29, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Arasi Luvasa » Wed Oct 24, 2018 1:50 pm

"Well there doesn't seem to have been rebellion either, I fail to see your point. Also this would place a law on the books, it doesn't dictate a specific way to handle fair trials."
Ambassador Ariela Galadriel Maria Mirase
37 year old Arch-bishop of the Arasi Christian Church (also the youngest ever arch-bishop and fifth woman in the church hierarchy). An attractive but stern woman with a strict adherence to religious and moral ethical codes, also somewhat of an optimist. She was recently appointed to the position following the election of Adrian Midnight to the position of Patriarch.

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Separatist Peoples
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Founded: Feb 17, 2011
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Separatist Peoples » Wed Oct 24, 2018 1:50 pm

Promisit Dominus wrote:I said rebellion, not riot. Besides, I am not 100% disagreeing with the Resolution and I understand the concern but, I believe that each country has their own way of a fair trial, it shouldn't be our job as WA members to make that decision for them.


"You can use the same argument to justify torture, oppression, and any other flavor of domestic abuse. Noncompliance is dealt with via the Administrative Compliance Act. This claptrap is just as unconvincing here as it has been the last ten thousand times it was brought up in these august halls."
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Promisit Dominus
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Founded: Oct 23, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Promisit Dominus » Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:09 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Promisit Dominus wrote:I said rebellion, not riot. Besides, I am not 100% disagreeing with the Resolution and I understand the concern but, I believe that each country has their own way of a fair trial, it shouldn't be our job as WA members to make that decision for them.


"You can use the same argument to justify torture, oppression, and any other flavor of domestic abuse. Noncompliance is dealt with via the Administrative Compliance Act. This claptrap is just as unconvincing here as it has been the last ten thousand times it was brought up in these august halls."

Of course you say that, you wrote it!

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Separatist Peoples
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:54 pm

Promisit Dominus wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:
"You can use the same argument to justify torture, oppression, and any other flavor of domestic abuse. Noncompliance is dealt with via the Administrative Compliance Act. This claptrap is just as unconvincing here as it has been the last ten thousand times it was brought up in these august halls."

Of course you say that, you wrote it!

"Ambassador, I am experienced and principled enough to entertain ideas contrary to my own. I am an accomplished author with a wealth of experience. Despite that, I cannot torture rational thought to the point where your argument is remotely convincing, here or with any other topic currently at draft. Your argument is so tired and overused that you have actually harmed everybody in this room who had to sit through it for the ten thousandth time it has been made."

His Worshipfulness, the Most Unscrupulous, Plainly Deceitful, Dissembling, Strategicly Calculating Lord GA Secretariat, Authority on All Existence, Arbiter of Right, Toxic Globalist Dog, Dark Psychic Vampire, and Chief Populist Elitist!
Separatist Peoples should RESIGN!

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Freepublican
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Founded: Mar 27, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Freepublican » Wed Oct 24, 2018 5:18 pm

Okay, everyone knows there is no way a business will be able to get it's money back from an employee who caused the problem. There is also no way for a business to have a hiring practice good enough to prevent the bad eggs completely. This nothing more than a tool for anti-business radicals to enter businesses and cause the loss of money.

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Separatist Peoples
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Wed Oct 24, 2018 5:57 pm

Freepublican wrote:Okay, everyone knows there is no way a business will be able to get it's money back from an employee who caused the problem. There is also no way for a business to have a hiring practice good enough to prevent the bad eggs completely. This nothing more than a tool for anti-business radicals to enter businesses and cause the loss of money.

"The price of doing business is paying for the damage you cause, even if you cause it indirectly. This is an alternative to excessive regulation."

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Separatist Peoples should RESIGN!

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Promisit Dominus
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Founded: Oct 23, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Promisit Dominus » Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:14 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Promisit Dominus wrote:Of course you say that, you wrote it!

"Ambassador, I am experienced and principled enough to entertain ideas contrary to my own. I am an accomplished author with a wealth of experience. Despite that, I cannot torture rational thought to the point where your argument is remotely convincing, here or with any other topic currently at draft. Your argument is so tired and overused that you have actually harmed everybody in this room who had to sit through it for the ten thousandth time it has been made."

Well the other 9,999 Ambassadors make a good point. Besides your "well accomplished author" speech bored more people than my "the world shouldn't disrupt other people's court" systems speech.

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Lord Dominator
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Founded: Dec 22, 2016
Right-wing Utopia

Postby Lord Dominator » Wed Oct 24, 2018 7:24 pm

Promisit Dominus wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:"Ambassador, I am experienced and principled enough to entertain ideas contrary to my own. I am an accomplished author with a wealth of experience. Despite that, I cannot torture rational thought to the point where your argument is remotely convincing, here or with any other topic currently at draft. Your argument is so tired and overused that you have actually harmed everybody in this room who had to sit through it for the ten thousandth time it has been made."

Well the other 9,999 Ambassadors make a good point. Besides your "well accomplished author" speech bored more people than my "the world shouldn't disrupt other people's court" systems speech.

"Hmm, personally I prefer the speech involving more personal ego. Guess which one that was."

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Arasi Luvasa
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Founded: Aug 29, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Arasi Luvasa » Wed Oct 24, 2018 7:46 pm

"We haven't been here all that long, arguments against this Assembly being involved in national law has gotten pretty old already."
Ambassador Ariela Galadriel Maria Mirase
37 year old Arch-bishop of the Arasi Christian Church (also the youngest ever arch-bishop and fifth woman in the church hierarchy). An attractive but stern woman with a strict adherence to religious and moral ethical codes, also somewhat of an optimist. She was recently appointed to the position following the election of Adrian Midnight to the position of Patriarch.

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Freepublican
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Founded: Mar 27, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Freepublican » Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:28 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Freepublican wrote:Okay, everyone knows there is no way a business will be able to get it's money back from an employee who caused the problem. There is also no way for a business to have a hiring practice good enough to prevent the bad eggs completely. This nothing more than a tool for anti-business radicals to enter businesses and cause the loss of money.

"The price of doing business is paying for the damage you cause, even if you cause it indirectly. This is an alternative to excessive regulation."


Exactly! The damage YOU cause.

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Freepublican
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Founded: Mar 27, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Freepublican » Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:48 pm

Freepublican wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:"The price of doing business is paying for the damage you cause, even if you cause it indirectly. This is an alternative to excessive regulation."


Exactly! The damage YOU cause.


Let me humbly recant. I missed a key clause in the resolution." b.Was acting in the scope of employment at that time"
That makes a huge difference. I still believe exceptions should be added for intentional attempts to damage the business in question. I also stand against this proposal on jurisdictional grounds.

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Lord Dominator
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Founded: Dec 22, 2016
Right-wing Utopia

Postby Lord Dominator » Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:02 pm

Respondeat Superior was passed 8,727 votes to 7,070.

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