Is Liberalism/Communism favored by the wealthy?

[PaNTuXIa]

In the 2016 election, we have seen more money poured into campaigns than ever before. Outsiders, like Trump, Sanders, Stein and Johnson have become mainstream political figures. The establishment is losing control.

In the midst of all this, some shocking revelations were made about the liberal billionaire, George Soros. He had funneled money to the Pope, the Supreme Court, Black Lives Matter, and even paid Al Gore to promote climate change. Hillary Clinton's SuperPAC has received millions of dollars from Soros. While this may sound like a conspiracy theory, it's not.

So is this evidence that liberalism is favored by the wealthy?

Perhaps. But what about the Koch Brothers, oil barons, and Wall Street?

Well, they are the ones who control the MSM, which is largely liberal. Why would they push the liberal narrative if they weren't liberal themselves?

Personally, I think that most "liberal" billionaires and millionaires, are just neolibs or, in Soros's case, progressives. They would fall on the centre or centre-left, respectively. But what are NSG's thoughts?

[Khadgar]

In the 2016 election, we have seen more money poured into campaigns than ever before. Outsiders, like Trump, Sanders, Stein and Johnson have become mainstream political figures. The establishment is losing control.

In the midst of all this, some shocking revelations were made about the liberal billionaire, George Soros. He had funneled money to the Pope, the Supreme Court, Black Lives Matter, and even paid Al Gore to promote climate change. Hillary Clinton's SuperPAC has received millions of dollars from Soros. While this may sound like a conspiracy theory, it's not.

So is this evidence that liberalism is favored by the wealthy?

Perhaps. But what about the Koch Brothers, oil barons, and Wall Street?

Well, they are the ones who control the MSM, which is largely liberal. Why would they push the liberal narrative if they weren't liberal themselves?

Personally, I think that most "liberal" billionaires and millionaires, are just neolibs or, in Soros's case, progressives. They would fall on the centre or centre-left, respectively. But what are NSG's thoughts?

Al Gore doesn't promote climate change.

[PaNTuXIa]

In the 2016 election, we have seen more money poured into campaigns than ever before. Outsiders, like Trump, Sanders, Stein and Johnson have become mainstream political figures. The establishment is losing control.

In the midst of all this, some shocking revelations were made about the liberal billionaire, George Soros. He had funneled money to the Pope, the Supreme Court, Black Lives Matter, and even paid Al Gore to promote climate change. Hillary Clinton's SuperPAC has received millions of dollars from Soros. While this may sound like a conspiracy theory, it's not.

So is this evidence that liberalism is favored by the wealthy?

Perhaps. But what about the Koch Brothers, oil barons, and Wall Street?

Well, they are the ones who control the MSM, which is largely liberal. Why would they push the liberal narrative if they weren't liberal themselves?

Personally, I think that most "liberal" billionaires and millionaires, are just neolibs or, in Soros's case, progressives. They would fall on the centre or centre-left, respectively. But what are NSG's thoughts?

Al Gore doesn't promote climate change.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Inconvenient_Truth

[Valystria]

Yes, the various far-left political movements plaguing the West are indeed funded by morally corrupt billionaires such as George Soros.

It's tragically comical how Social Justice advocates either don't realize or don't care that when they endorse open borders and BLM they are willingly being the footsoldiers of the morally reprehensible elites pulling their strings.

Al Gore doesn't promote climate change.

Yeah, he does. He's made himself a very tidy profit from it. Cynical exploitation on his part at best.

[Ostroeuropa]

Neoliberalism is certainly yes, and that is the modern strain of the democratic party.

[PaNTuXIa]

Neoliberalism is certainly yes, and that is the modern strain of the democratic party.

Obviously, but is liberalism? Liberalism as in, "liberty, equality, fraternity?"

[Khadgar]

Al Gore doesn't promote climate change.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Inconvenient_Truth

I'm unclear how fighting against climate change is promoting it. Perhaps you're using words in a way that I'm unfamiliar with.

[Skyviolia]

Hillary Clintion, Soros aren't exactly liberal by any measure. I think the OP mistakes 'democrat' for 'Liberal.' Contrary to popular opinion, they are not the same thing.

[PaNTuXIa]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Inconvenient_Truth

I'm unclear how fighting against climate change is promoting it. Perhaps you're using words in a way that I'm unfamiliar with.

Sorry, maybe I didn't use clear language. I meant promoting the theory of climate change.

[PaNTuXIa]

Hillary Clintion, Soros aren't exactly liberal by any measure. I think the OP mistakes 'democrat' for 'Liberal.' Contrary to popular opinion, they are not the same thing.

Clinton isn't, for sure, but Soros?

[New Werpland]

I think generalizing about the wealthy like this is problematic.

Yes, the various far-left political movements plaguing the West are indeed funded by morally corrupt billionaires such as George Soros.

Why is George Soros morally corrupt?

[Nerotysia]

The fact that you equate liberalism and communism in the title degrades your point before I've even read it.

Yes, many wealthy people favor the Democratic party, and many wealthy people favor the Republicans. These parties do not really equate to political ideologies. The Democrats are a coalition of anyone who even leans towards the center or to the left, and the Republicans are a coalition of libertarians, fanatical Christians, right-leaning centrists, etc etc etc. It's rather impossible to assign any one ideology to either party.

In my experience, wealthy "liberal" billionaires tend to support Democrats who are rather friendly towards business and capitalism, as in Hillary Clinton.

[Skyviolia]

Hillary Clintion, Soros aren't exactly liberal by any measure. I think the OP mistakes 'democrat' for 'Liberal.' Contrary to popular opinion, they are not the same thing.

Clinton isn't, for sure, but Soros?

Soros, like Clinton has liberal positions, but isn't really liberal himself, at least by my measure. I might consider him a liberal if it came to it, but I don't think one billionaire would prove that liberalism is an inherently pro-business. I think we are ignoring the fact that the (vast) majority of these rich billionaires are either conservative or libertarian at the most, not liberal.

[Pirelin]

Clinton isn't, for sure, but Soros?

Soros, like Clinton has liberal positions, but isn't really liberal himself, at least by my measure. I might consider him a liberal if it came to it, but I don't think one billionaire would prove that liberalism is an inherently pro-business. I think we are ignoring the fact that the (vast) majority of these rich billionaires are either conservative or libertarian at the most, not liberal.

So Bill Gates, Warren Buffet and the media moguls are libertarians?

[Socialist Nordia]

Yes, the various far-left political movements plaguing the West are indeed funded by morally corrupt billionaires such as George Soros.

It's tragically comical how Social Justice advocates either don't realize or don't care that when they endorse open borders and BLM they are willingly being the footsoldiers of the morally reprehensible elites pulling their strings.

Al Gore doesn't promote climate change.

Yeah, he does. He's made himself a very tidy profit from it. Cynical exploitation on his part at best.

Since when are far left political movements plaguing the west? Are we ready for communist uprisings?

[PaNTuXIa]

Yes, the various far-left political movements plaguing the West are indeed funded by morally corrupt billionaires such as George Soros.

It's tragically comical how Social Justice advocates either don't realize or don't care that when they endorse open borders and BLM they are willingly being the footsoldiers of the morally reprehensible elites pulling their strings.


Yeah, he does. He's made himself a very tidy profit from it. Cynical exploitation on his part at best.

Since when are far left political movements plaguing the west? Are we ready for communist uprisings?

If only.

[Roosevetania]

In the 2016 election, we have seen more money poured into campaigns than ever before. Outsiders, like Trump, Sanders, Stein and Johnson have become mainstream political figures. The establishment is losing control.

In the midst of all this, some shocking revelations were made about the liberal billionaire, George Soros. He had funneled money to the Pope, the Supreme Court, Black Lives Matter, and even paid Al Gore to promote climate change. Hillary Clinton's SuperPAC has received millions of dollars from Soros. While this may sound like a conspiracy theory, it's not.

So is this evidence that liberalism is favored by the wealthy?

Perhaps. But what about the Koch Brothers, oil barons, and Wall Street?

Well, they are the ones who control the MSM, which is largely liberal. Why would they push the liberal narrative if they weren't liberal themselves?

Personally, I think that most "liberal" billionaires and millionaires, are just neolibs or, in Soros's case, progressives. They would fall on the centre or centre-left, respectively. But what are NSG's thoughts?

Uh, No. Liberals are and have been on the side of the workers. (For example, the UK Labour Party) Republicans and conservatives favor big business. It's liberals and progressives that are always on the side of unions!

[Pandeeria]

Liberalism, a system that rewards and perpetuates the existence of a wealthy ruling class (and arguably does so in a better fashion than Conservatism and more extremist ideologies), is of course going to be favored by the wealthy. They have the most to gain of liberalism.

Communism? Fuck no. That's practically the antithesis of the wealthy; that is the ideology that seeks to destroy the wealthy and the foundations of a society in which rewards the wealthy.

[Pirelin]

Liberalism, a system that rewards and perpetuates the existence of a wealthy ruling class (and arguably does so in a better fashion than Conservatism and more extremist ideologies), is of course going to be favored by the wealthy. They have the most to gain of liberalism.

Communism? Fuck no. That's practically the antithesis of the wealthy; that is the ideology that seeks to destroy the wealthy and the foundations of a society in which rewards the wealthy.

I see Communism as state capitalism, which allows corporations to have total controlover a economy and a state.

[Pandeeria]

Liberalism, a system that rewards and perpetuates the existence of a wealthy ruling class (and arguably does so in a better fashion than Conservatism and more extremist ideologies), is of course going to be favored by the wealthy. They have the most to gain of liberalism.

Communism? Fuck no. That's practically the antithesis of the wealthy; that is the ideology that seeks to destroy the wealthy and the foundations of a society in which rewards the wealthy.

I see Communism as state capitalism, which allows corporations to have total controlover a economy and a state.

You then don't understand even the most fundamental principles of Communism, and most likely only look at the failed experiments that were places like the USSR, China, North Korea, etc.

[Cyrisnia]

In the 2016 election, we have seen more money poured into campaigns than ever before. Outsiders, like Donald "I am the least racist person" Trump, Sanders, Stein and Johnson have become mainstream political figures. The establishment is losing control.

In the midst of all this, some shocking revelations were made about the liberal billionaire, George Soros. He had funneled money to the Pope, the Supreme Court, Black Lives Matter, and even paid Al Gore to promote climate change. Hillary Clinton's SuperPAC has received millions of dollars from Soros. While this may sound like a conspiracy theory, it's not.

So is this evidence that liberalism is favored by the wealthy?

Perhaps. But what about the Koch Brothers, oil barons, and Wall Street?

Well, they are the ones who control the MSM, which is largely liberal. Why would they push the liberal narrative if they weren't liberal themselves?

Personally, I think that most "liberal" billionaires and millionaires, are just neolibs or, in Soros's case, progressives. They would fall on the centre or centre-left, respectively. But what are NSG's thoughts?

Al Gore doesn't promote climate change.

what

[Diopolis]

The wealthy almost universally support some variant of neoliberalism. This makes sense, because neoliberalism is the status quo in most of the world and the wealthy are by definition those who benefit from the status quo.
Neoliberalism is really a fairly centrist economic ideology, neither strongly left or right.
In terms of social policy, that's a bit more varied, but they lean "progressive" rather than traditionalist as a general rule. I am of course talking of high income individuals rather than high net worth individuals; conservatives generally have a higher net worth for the same income than liberals due to being more cautious with their money(and nearly everything else).

[Pandeeria]

In the 2016 election, we have seen more money poured into campaigns than ever before. Outsiders, like Trump, Sanders, Stein and Johnson have become mainstream political figures. The establishment is losing control.

In the midst of all this, some shocking revelations were made about the liberal billionaire, George Soros. He had funneled money to the Pope, the Supreme Court, Black Lives Matter, and even paid Al Gore to promote climate change. Hillary Clinton's SuperPAC has received millions of dollars from Soros. While this may sound like a conspiracy theory, it's not.

So is this evidence that liberalism is favored by the wealthy?

Perhaps. But what about the Koch Brothers, oil barons, and Wall Street?

Well, they are the ones who control the MSM, which is largely liberal. Why would they push the liberal narrative if they weren't liberal themselves?

Personally, I think that most "liberal" billionaires and millionaires, are just neolibs or, in Soros's case, progressives. They would fall on the centre or centre-left, respectively. But what are NSG's thoughts?

Uh, No. Liberals are and have been on the side of the workers. (For example, the UK Labour Party) Republicans and conservatives favor big business. It's liberals and progressives that are always on the side of unions!

Liberalism has done a better job at pacifying the working class, I'll give you that.

[Pirelin]

I see Communism as state capitalism, which allows corporations to have total controlover a economy and a state.

You then don't understand even the most fundamental principles of Communism, and most likely only look at the failed experiments that were places like the USSR, China, North Korea, etc.

"failed expirements"
you mean like corporatist, not capitalist America?

[PaNTuXIa]

In the 2016 election, we have seen more money poured into campaigns than ever before. Outsiders, like Trump, Sanders, Stein and Johnson have become mainstream political figures. The establishment is losing control.

In the midst of all this, some shocking revelations were made about the liberal billionaire, George Soros. He had funneled money to the Pope, the Supreme Court, Black Lives Matter, and even paid Al Gore to promote climate change. Hillary Clinton's SuperPAC has received millions of dollars from Soros. While this may sound like a conspiracy theory, it's not.

So is this evidence that liberalism is favored by the wealthy?

Perhaps. But what about the Koch Brothers, oil barons, and Wall Street?

Well, they are the ones who control the MSM, which is largely liberal. Why would they push the liberal narrative if they weren't liberal themselves?

Personally, I think that most "liberal" billionaires and millionaires, are just neolibs or, in Soros's case, progressives. They would fall on the centre or centre-left, respectively. But what are NSG's thoughts?

Uh, No. Liberals are and have been on the side of the workers. (For example, the UK Labour Party) Republicans and conservatives favor big business. It's liberals and progressives that are always on the side of unions!

Hey look, it's me from four years ago.