UK Politics Thread V: Upon This Blasted Heath

[Souseiseki]

on the upside the amount of hunger strikes and people on suicide watch in our probably full of rape and abuse but it's covered up because that's bad for business immigrant camps is an all time high. so that's another milestone in our quest to have an australia-like system.

[Imperializt Russia]

I have a bad draft ready for the Mark VI thread, unless anyone has any objections?

[Valaran]

I have a bad draft ready for the Mark VI thread, unless anyone has any objections?

Feel free.

[Vassenor]

I have a bad draft ready for the Mark VI thread, unless anyone has any objections?

Turn the key.

[Souseiseki]

I have a bad draft ready for the Mark VI thread, unless anyone has any objections?

can you inject lots of pro-EU propaganda into it? like:

news:

government spies on everyone, IF ONLY THERE WAS A BODY THAT HAD ALREADY RULED THAT ILLEGAL HUH
government to block most if not all overseas porn sites, IF ONLY THERE WAS SOME WAY TO STOP THAT GEEZ

[Dumb Ideologies]

I have a bad draft ready for the Mark VI thread, unless anyone has any objections?

Feel free.

Feeling free on the internet is outlawed under the Digital Communications Bill.

[Souseiseki]

Feel free.

Feeling free on the internet is outlawed under the Digital Communications Bill.

IF ONLY THERE WAS A BODY THAT HAD ALREADY RULED THAT ILLEGAL HUH
IF ONLY THERE WAS SOME WAY TO STOP THAT GEEZ

[Imperializt Russia]

Taking suggestions on thread title until page 500 is exhausted (will post up when we hit 501).

Boaty McBoatface/Brexit rules: all suggestions are "just a suggestion"

[Souseiseki]

Taking suggestions on thread title until page 500 is exhausted (will post up when we hit 501).

Boaty McBoatface/Brexit rules: all suggestions are "just a suggestion"

i still also support a rotating title, which as an active poster you can make happen

[Imperializt Russia]

Make it happen like British destiny.

[Hurdergaryp]

That depends entirely how serious you are about a majority of the electorate having to vote for something. Or if it's just a moan at losing.

how serious are you about the requirement that any past decision not made under the ideal circumstances of the day should be reversed?

because there's a fucking lot of them

unless you're just having a moan at people saying your special snowflake referendum was badly done?

Enemies of the people, every single one of them. The Daily Mail shall provide true patriots with their names and addresses.

[Salandriagado]

So what is the issue with Brexit if we should not have joined under the idea being put forward that a majority of the electorate should be needed to pass a referendum when that means we would have not voted to join in the first place. Surely from a principled stand point you lot should be in favour of Brexit to right a previous wrong?

repeal all bills passed before universal suffrage imo

Please don't. Some of them are really important. The Magna Carta, Clause XXIX springs to mind.

[Souseiseki]

repeal all bills passed before universal suffrage imo

Please don't. Some of them are really important. The Magna Carta, Clause XXIX springs to mind.

ok can we at least repeal all european influenced legislation

[Philjia]

Code Name: Operation Certain Death?

[Imperializt Russia]

Please don't. Some of them are really important. The Magna Carta, Clause XXIX springs to mind.

ok can we at least repeal all european influenced legislation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Paris_(1763)
We'd be at war with France and Spain again though.

[Souseiseki]

UK Politics Thread VI: This is fine. This is fine. This is fine.

[Hurdergaryp]

Please don't. Some of them are really important. The Magna Carta, Clause XXIX springs to mind.

ok can we at least repeal all european influenced legislation

But what are you going to do when you realize that authentic British law is European as well?

[The Blaatschapen]

Taking suggestions on thread title until page 500 is exhausted (will post up when we hit 501).

Boaty McBoatface/Brexit rules: all suggestions are "just a suggestion"

Provided I, or another mod are not locking at 500.

Better be quick.

[Souseiseki]

ok can we at least repeal all european influenced legislation

But what are you going to do when you realize that authentic British law is European as well?

i just want to take away people's rights, throw them in jail and spend the next 3 years making them study what a horrible idea that was

sometimes tough love is the best love

[Hurdergaryp]

Code Name: Operation Certain Death?

The other OCD.

[Imperializt Russia]

Taking suggestions on thread title until page 500 is exhausted (will post up when we hit 501).

Boaty McBoatface/Brexit rules: all suggestions are "just a suggestion"

Provided I, or another mod are not locking at 500.

Better be quick.

Duly noted!

[The Nihilistic view]

That depends entirely how serious you are about a majority of the electorate having to vote for something. Or if it's just a moan at losing.

how serious are you about the requirement that any past decision not made under the ideal circumstances of the day should be reversed?

because there's a fucking lot of them

unless you're just having a moan at people saying your special snowflake referendum was badly done?

My opinion is the election rules to leave something should be the same as joining. I have never argued the original vote should be cast aside because it only have a majority requirement and did not meet this majority of the electorate threshold. That was valid, this was valid. The only one I have a little problem with is the original scottish devolution referendum as it had a minimum turnout to be valid which failed to be reached. That would be the only one I have some disagreement with. The thresholds to join or leave something should be the same.

I am perfectly fine with majority vote as a concept for them no other requirements, which would be the case whenever the next referendum is on whatever the topic is up for vote. I see no reason why people not bothered enough to vote should have their lack of an opinion Interprited as being against whatever the proposed changes is.

[Ifreann]

I totally thought the 2/3rds comment was about the title of the next thread.

That should be determined by Single Transferable Shout acclamation.

Surely British tradition requires that it be decided by First to Post The...em...Pthread?

[Souseiseki]

how serious are you about the requirement that any past decision not made under the ideal circumstances of the day should be reversed?

because there's a fucking lot of them

unless you're just having a moan at people saying your special snowflake referendum was badly done?

My opinion is the election rules to leave something should be the same as joining. I have never argued the original vote should be cast aside because it only have a majority requirement and did not meet this majority of the electorate threshold. That was valid, this was valid. The only one I have a little problem with is the original scottish devolution referendum as it had a minimum turnout to be valid which failed to be reached. That would be the only one I have some disagreement with. The thresholds to join or leave something should be the same.

I am perfectly fine with majority vote as a concept for them no other requirements, which would be the case whenever the next referendum is on whatever the topic is up for vote. I see no reason why people not bothered enough to vote should have their lack of an opinion Interprited as being against whatever the proposed changes is.

so if, hypothetically, the EU referendum passed with 50.1% of 10% of the population would see zero problems with this?

[The Nihilistic view]

So what is the issue with Brexit if we should not have joined under the idea being put forward that a majority of the electorate should be needed to pass a referendum when that means we would have not voted to join in the first place. Surely from a principled stand point you lot should be in favour of Brexit to right a previous wrong?

I don't agree that follows. What does follow is that from a "principled standpoint" we should have had the forethought that referenda might occur again, and properly integrate them into our political system.

This argument should have been made when the AV referendum was being mooted; it should have been screamed about when the EU referendum came about.

When you make a bad or questionable decision once, that's meant to be a mistake you learn from after making once.
Not keep stepping on all of the rakes like Sideshow Bob.

Did you? I don't recall anybody really making much of an issue here at least about either before the vote.