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Which of the following would you prefer to be the next leader of the Conservative Party?

Andrea Leadsom
27
18%
Liam Fox
7
5%
Michael Gove
17
11%
Stephen Crabb
6
4%
Theresa May
38
25%
Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz
57
38%
 
Total votes : 152

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Frank Zipper
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Postby Frank Zipper » Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:59 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:I think it's kind of a given. Is she the only contender?


Seems that way so far, though I always assumed she was a stalking horse, because she doesn't seem like an election winner either to me. Maybe some more suitable candidates will come out of the woodwork.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:04 pm

So should I start Thread IV with a title race?
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:04 pm

Vassenor wrote:So should I start Thread IV with a title race?

Title race?
Or do you mean a fresh OP with a poll for what title we eventually get?
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:05 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:So should I start Thread IV with a title race?

Title race?
Or do you mean a fresh OP with a poll for what title we eventually get?


Yes.
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Postby Frank Zipper » Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:08 pm

Vassenor wrote:So should I start Thread IV with a title race?


I would be okay with just going with Arch's request.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:10 pm

Frank Zipper wrote:
Vassenor wrote:So should I start Thread IV with a title race?


I would be okay with just going with Arch's request.


But we're at least nominally trying to be a democracy.
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Postby Souseiseki » Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:11 pm

>letting an unelected eurocrat decide our next title

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP1Xk2UcQpY
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:12 pm

Souseiseki wrote:>letting an unelected eurocrat decide our next title

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP1Xk2UcQpY


*pouts*
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Postby Esparastan » Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:12 pm

Souseiseki wrote:>letting an unelected eurocrat decide our next title

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP1Xk2UcQpY

What do you mean, next title?

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:13 pm

Esparastan wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:>letting an unelected eurocrat decide our next title

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP1Xk2UcQpY

What do you mean, next title?


The witticism on the end of the thread title.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:14 pm

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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:34 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
Corbynites and Bernie supporters are very similar in some sectors, young, loud, obnoxious, unemployed, and they form some sort of cult of personality. It's so sad.

And uh that is what you call a uh eh hmm, sweeping generalisation.


For the sake of proving a point and perhaps stirring the pot a bit. That's called using rhetoric and hyperbole in an argument.

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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:35 pm

Freefall11111 wrote:Clegg disappears -> everyone misses Clegg

Miliband disappears -> everyone misses Miliband

Dave disappears -> everyone misses Dave

Is there some kind of obsession with missing people who just left?


Galloway disappears - > everyone thinks he was a fuck anyways

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Postby HMS Vanguard » Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:22 pm

Salandriagado wrote:
HMS Vanguard wrote:He is still correct: the Commission is composed of appointees with only the President drawn from the Parliament. The British Cabinet is entirely drawn from Parliament.


They don't have to be. That's pure coincidence. Also, they aren't: Jeremy Heywood isn't. Tina Stowell is, but isn't elected.

The Prime Minister doesn't have to command the support of Parliament either but it is a convention strong enough to pass for a constitutional obligation.

Jeremy Heywood isn't a member of the Cabinet, he is Cabinet Secretary, a Civil Service job.

The EU Commission, today, is analogous to a Cabinet in which every member other than the Prime Minister was a member of the House of Lords appointed by that same Prime Minister. Think people might have a problem with that? Before 2014, it was analogous to a Cabinet in which every member was a member of the House of Lords appointed by the Queen.
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Postby HMS Vanguard » Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:29 pm

Questers wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:"Citation please" has a very different meaning from [citation needed] which is obviously parodying the Wikipedia content tag that basically means
"(suspected) baseless conjecture within".

Look.

There is a point at which it is obviously fair to ask for proof of something. There is a point where asking for proof in lieu of looking it up for yourself shows laziness to really participate in a debate.

On this board it is almost ALWAYS a time-wasting tactic. The purpose is just to attrition the other poster's patience to remain in the debate. Usually the person demanding evidence believe a contradictory positive claim but never provides any evidence for it. People who repeatedly demand evidence of things are usually (but not always) time-wasting posters.
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