The Jewish Situation

[Zarbifel]

As a Jew who has always lived in a relatively christian area of the U.S. (a.k.a. all of it), knowing how the U.S. has treated us in the past, and experiencing the overwhelming dislike of our Israeli favoritism among the populace, I've always felt relatively insecure in the U.S. So, nations from the states or otherwise, how do you guys feel about us, and what do you think of supporting Israel as a nation?

[Risottia]

As a Jew who has always lived in a relatively christian area of the U.S. (a.k.a. all of it), knowing how the U.S. has treated us in the past, and experiencing the overwhelming dislike of our Israeli favoritism among the populace, I've always felt relatively insecure in the U.S. So, nations from the states or otherwise, how do you guys feel about us, and what do you think of supporting Israel as a nation?

"Us" as in "American Jews"?

As a whole American Jews seem a bit too much into supporting whatever the Israeli government does, even when it has been behaving like an utter prick with fundie undertones for years and years now.

That said, American Jews are so many that it would be quite stupid to think that everyone of them harbours the same political ideas as the most vocal parts of that group. So, meh.

[Cetacea]

Jews are cool
Zionism sucks
Having a nation set up on theocratic grounds was wrong and Israel needs to stop being oppressive dicks and stop building on Palestinian homelands
whoevers in charge of Palestine now needs to get over the religious division and actually help the Palestinian people

[Washington Resistance Army]

Jews are cool
Zionism sucks
Having a nation set up on theocratic grounds was wrong and Israel needs to stop being oppressive dicks and stop building on Palestinian homelands
whoevers in charge of Palestine now needs to get over the religious division and actually help the Palestinian people

This^

[Etha]

American Jews are still Americans.
No problem with Jews.

[Czervenika]

Jews are cool
Zionism sucks
Having a nation set up on theocratic grounds was wrong and Israel needs to stop being oppressive dicks and stop building on Palestinian homelands
whoevers in charge of Palestine now needs to get over the religious division and actually help the Palestinian people

This. So much this. Both groups just need to stop being dicks.

[Yaramaqui]

As a Jew who has always lived in a relatively christian area of the U.S. (a.k.a. all of it), knowing how the U.S. has treated us in the past, and experiencing the overwhelming dislike of our Israeli favoritism among the populace, I've always felt relatively insecure in the U.S. So, nations from the states or otherwise, how do you guys feel about us, and what do you think of supporting Israel as a nation?

לק”י

I may be an Orthodox Jew, but I do not support Israel for political and religious reasons. I have felt a bit uncomfortable in the US at times since I moved here, but I am starting to get used to how things are. The US doesn't seem that bad towards Jews in my opinion. Sure, there are a couple of bigots every now and then, but that isn't unique to the United States.

[Zoice]

Jews are cool
Zionism sucks
Having a nation set up on theocratic grounds was wrong and Israel needs to stop being oppressive dicks and stop building on Palestinian homelands
whoevers in charge of Palestine now needs to get over the religious division and actually help the Palestinian people

This. So much this. Both groups just need to stop being dicks.

Yep.

[Czervenika]

As a Jew who has always lived in a relatively christian area of the U.S. (a.k.a. all of it), knowing how the U.S. has treated us in the past, and experiencing the overwhelming dislike of our Israeli favoritism among the populace, I've always felt relatively insecure in the U.S. So, nations from the states or otherwise, how do you guys feel about us, and what do you think of supporting Israel as a nation?

לק”י

I may be an Orthodox Jew, but I do not support Israel for political and religious reasons. I have felt a bit uncomfortable in the US at times since I moved here, but I am starting to get used to how things are. The US doesn't seem that bad towards Jews in my opinion. Sure, there are a couple of bigots every now and then, but that isn't unique to the United States.

I'm curious now. Isn't there some teaching in Judaism that states there can't be a Jewish state until the Jewish messiah arrives? Is that why you oppose Israel?

[Werftkrieg]

Jews are cool
Zionism sucks
Having a nation set up on theocratic grounds was wrong and Israel needs to stop being oppressive dicks and stop building on Palestinian homelands
whoevers in charge of Palestine now needs to get over the religious division and actually help the Palestinian people

U suck, yo.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Honestly could not give a damn if you are Jewish, Muslim, Christian, Glorious servant of the Alfather or whatever, your religion is not important to me, so my feelings on Jews and Jewish Americans are meh, it varies from person to person and their actions.

Not a fan of the Israeli government though, think they are a bunch of dickheads, but regular Israelis? Meh overall.

[Nerotysia]

Are there actually many anti-semites in America? I mean, it doesn't seem like a Democratic position to hold, and I've seen so many Republicans smother Israel in hot love. I mean, they use the term "Judeo-Christian values" for chrissakes.

Eh, who knows I guess.

[Yaramaqui]

לק”י

I may be an Orthodox Jew, but I do not support Israel for political and religious reasons. I have felt a bit uncomfortable in the US at times since I moved here, but I am starting to get used to how things are. The US doesn't seem that bad towards Jews in my opinion. Sure, there are a couple of bigots every now and then, but that isn't unique to the United States.

I'm curious now. Isn't there some teaching in Judaism that states there can't be a Jewish state until the Jewish messiah arrives? Is that why you oppose Israel?

Yes, it is written in the Tanakh that the Jews will return to the land of Israel under the future Messiah's leadership. Also for many political reasons and lots of stuff from Jewish law that expand upon the numerous implications in the Tanakh.

[Souseiseki]

to be honest, i can't say i have any strong positive or negative feelings towards jews as a group. i would think that in a way that might be the best possible way to go. though, that said, for historical reasons i tend to get a bit over-protective whenever people start shit talking jewish people. not sure how you would feel about that.

as for israel... eh. if i was around at the time i might have supported it, but now it's there it's just yet another ethnic/religious state with all the baggage that carries and the unpleasantries required to keep such a state going. i'm ok with it existing but, frankly speaking, it has no inherent right to exist any more than other state does. and i can only support its existence if it does not privilege one religion over the rest, which it always will. (and no, obviously i don't support pakistan or saudia arabia and it's a shame i even need to explicitly state so in case someone goes "but what about the muslims???")

it's important to note that israel does not represent all jews, no matter how desperately it pretends to do so.

[The United Colonies of Earth]

Israel is presently under the rule of a bunch of people who want Iudaea and Samaria to return to the way they were, allegedly, under the rule of David. That's edging toward, though not actively so, genocide and has certainly resulted in a near-apartheid situation.
Thanks to the protocols of the elders of Zion and David Ben-gurion, Muslim immigrants come into Europe disliking the Jewish nation somewhat.
In America, the idea that Israel is blameless is possibly declining in popularity. Still going strong though. I dunno, Trump got pretty hard-squashed when he suggested America would treat Israel less like the favorite daughter of the Middle East than ever.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Jews are cool. But anybody who supports this Zionist state that is stealing Palestinian land, killing the native population and oppressing them is condoning genocide. The Zionist State reminds me of America, past and present. #FREEPALESTINE! I hope I didn't offend anyone.

[Griffon Archdutchy]

I don't care in the slightest.
That's my policy on every race, sex, orientation or otherwise.

Floats both ways, of course. On one hand, I don't hate any race or whatever. On the other, their whining of prejudice and so on that means they need special treatment, government subsidies, or whatever, annoys me.

In the context of this, a good example would be Israel.
I could care less about some random chunk of rather shoddy land in the middle of the desert. As such, I don't much like seeing massive swaths of tax payer money going to them.

[Zarbifel]

As a Jew who has always lived in a relatively christian area of the U.S. (a.k.a. all of it), knowing how the U.S. has treated us in the past, and experiencing the overwhelming dislike of our Israeli favoritism among the populace, I've always felt relatively insecure in the U.S. So, nations from the states or otherwise, how do you guys feel about us, and what do you think of supporting Israel as a nation?

"Us" as in "American Jews"?

As a whole American Jews seem a bit too much into supporting whatever the Israeli government does, even when it has been behaving like an utter prick with fundie undertones for years and years now.

That said, American Jews are so many that it would be quite stupid to think that everyone of them harbours the same political ideas as the most vocal parts of that group. So, meh.

Let me ask you guys a question. Do you think Israel would be an independent political entity if the Jews hadn't immigrated from Europe after the war? I think "Palestine" would have been partitioned by its neighboring countries. The Israeli government may be wrong, but the jews still need to support it, as non-jewish governments have proven in the past they couldn't protect us. That was the reason Israel was created, and that's why it's still around today.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

I'm Muslim by the way.

[The Huskar Social Union]

I'm Muslim by the way.

.... Nah, clearly you are a Jesuit.

[The Isolationist State Of Islam]

I'm Muslim by the way.

What?!

[Crockerland]

As a Jew who has always lived in a relatively christian area of the U.S. (a.k.a. all of it), knowing how the U.S. has treated us in the past, and experiencing the overwhelming dislike of our Israeli favoritism among the populace, I've always felt relatively insecure in the U.S. So, nations from the states or otherwise, how do you guys feel about us, and what do you think of supporting Israel as a nation?

What are you talking about? The vast majority of Christians in the US (as well as in Lebanon, Panama, the pacific, and maybe Eritrea and Cameroon) support Israel (which makes sense considering the Bible outright says that God himself created Israel in Ezekiel 28:25-26), I'm not sure where you've been living but unless it's Dearborn or Leith, I'm calling bullshit on there being an "overwhelming dislike" of Israeli favoritism.

[Yaramaqui]

"Us" as in "American Jews"?

As a whole American Jews seem a bit too much into supporting whatever the Israeli government does, even when it has been behaving like an utter prick with fundie undertones for years and years now.

That said, American Jews are so many that it would be quite stupid to think that everyone of them harbours the same political ideas as the most vocal parts of that group. So, meh.

Let me ask you guys a question. Do you think Israel would be an independent political entity if the Jews hadn't immigrated from Europe after the war? I think "Palestine" would have been partitioned by its neighboring countries. The Israeli government may be wrong, but the jews still need to support it, as non-jewish governments have proven in the past they couldn't protect us. That was the reason Israel was created, and that's why it's still around today.

Jews do not need to support the state of Israel.

But despite all this, while they are in the land of their enemies, I will not despise them nor will I reject them to annihilate them, thereby breaking My covenant that is with them, for I am the Lord their God.

[Zarbifel]

I'm Muslim by the way.

Do you think that Jews still deserve their own state, but somewhere else maybe?

[El-Amin Caliphate]

I'm Muslim by the way.

.... Nah, clearly you are a Jesuit.

I guess I already told you ^u^