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School Fees- High Enough for Intervention?

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Should Private/Independent School Fees Be Regulated?

Yes
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25%
No
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Yes (For the largest schools)
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Postby Moctina » Mon May 02, 2016 5:23 am

The Government should offer more lucrative means of providing the loan, in particular reducing loan repayments, in particular covering other, less prominent costs which make the difference.
However, we are still far more generous in this country than in the US, where the debt turns far more real than in the UK.
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Postby Valaran » Mon May 02, 2016 5:27 am

Moctina wrote:The Government should offer more lucrative means of providing the loan, in particular reducing loan repayments, in particular covering other, less prominent costs which make the difference.


Perhaps.

However, we are still far more generous in this country than in the US, where the debt turns far more real than in the UK.


The US isn't a benchmark for this, however. Not to mention they work on quite a different system generally.
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Postby Novorobo » Mon May 02, 2016 10:47 am

Moctina wrote:The Government should offer more lucrative means of providing the loan, in particular reducing loan repayments, in particular covering other, less prominent costs which make the difference.
However, we are still far more generous in this country than in the US, where the debt turns far more real than in the UK.

Frankly, I'd like to see the public education system throw out public funding for the humanities. It is neither practical nor meaningful enough to justify use of everyone else's tax dollars. Even the highly contentious "social sciences" are a bit of a grey area, but as least their ideas are held to some scrutiny.

If there are fees on post-secondary education, they should only be those of public universities, not capitalistic ones. Capitalism shouldn't poison education anyway.

And even in the public sector, the fees should be low enough to be reasonably accessible to the middle class, and just high enough to make sure someone's getting an education for a good reason.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Mon May 02, 2016 11:02 am

The main aim of most traditional degrees is not the subject matter. It is about aquiring skills and proving you have a certain ability. To then go on with something else.

The skills learnt during a history degree are valued by the market, the knowledge is fuctionally irrelevent. There is a reason you can do a law conversion from history for example, transferable skills.

You don't seem to have got this yet.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon May 02, 2016 12:37 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:The main aim of most traditional degrees is not the subject matter. It is about aquiring skills and proving you have a certain ability. To then go on with something else.

The skills learnt during a history degree are valued by the market, the knowledge is fuctionally irrelevent. There is a reason you can do a law conversion from history for example, transferable skills.

You don't seem to have got this yet.

That's backwards. Yes, you're taught the fundamental skills, because without them, you can't learn.
These skills are what the market values and likes to see.

The aim is still "the subject matter".
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Postby Minoa » Tue May 03, 2016 10:46 am

Hi, just worth pointing out according to http://www.studentloanrepayment.co.uk/p ... l#section1, you don't repay the loan unless you earn enough money, and loans are written off after 25 years or if you become ill. This is still a sharp contrast to US loans, although something could be done to merge the funding into a universal pot so that students could be charged variable amounts according to family income, and not strictly per head.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue May 03, 2016 10:46 am

Minoa wrote:Hi, just worth pointing out according to http://www.studentloanrepayment.co.uk/p ... l#section1, you don't repay the loan unless you earn enough money, and loans are written off after 25 years or if you become ill. This is still a sharp contrast to US loans, although something could be done to merge the funding into a universal pot so that students could be charged variable amounts according to family income, and not strictly per head.

Which means saddling students with 25 years of insurmountable debt, because fuck credit ratings.
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