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To which branch of Islam do you belong?

Sunni
180
40%
Sunni (Sufi)
31
7%
Sunni (Salafist)
17
4%
Shia (Ja'fari)
21
5%
Shia (Sufi/Other)
17
4%
Ibadi
10
2%
Quranist
17
4%
Mahdist (Ahmadiyya/Mahdavia)
8
2%
Non-Denominational
45
10%
Other
104
23%
 
Total votes : 450

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Postby Mahdistan » Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:04 pm

This is the second Islam thread, this one (will be) complete with a bit more detailed OP. Here topics about Islam, Shariah, the Quran, the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), and events occurring with Muslims worldwide can be discussed and debated.

If you're new to the thread(s), please state how you feel about Islam, or if you're Muslim yourself. Or not. Whatever. Just talk about things, I can answer questions if you have them.

Dedicated in part to Acro WA, a poster in the previous thread who died of cancer in September of 2015. Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un.
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Couldn't do the Arabic 2? :P
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Now... If I could be caught up on what's happened in the last ten pages or so?
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Menassa wrote:Couldn't do the Arabic 2? :P

Ha, didn't even think about that! But meh, it looks more official with the Roman numerals.
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Postby Menassa » Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:13 pm

Mahdistan wrote:
Menassa wrote:Couldn't do the Arabic 2? :P

Ha, didn't even think about that! But meh, it looks more official with the Roman numerals.

I did the Hebrew 2.
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Postby Mahdistan » Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:14 pm

Menassa wrote:
Mahdistan wrote:Ha, didn't even think about that! But meh, it looks more official with the Roman numerals.

I did the Hebrew 2.

Alright, you've won me over. 2 it is.
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Postby Menassa » Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:18 pm

Mahdistan wrote:
Menassa wrote:I did the Hebrew 2.

Alright, you've won me over. 2 it is.

Lol, I don't think you understand what I meant...

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Postby Mahdistan » Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:21 pm

Menassa wrote:
Mahdistan wrote:Alright, you've won me over. 2 it is.

Lol, I don't think you understand what I meant...

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Postby Menassa » Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:26 pm

Mahdistan wrote:
Menassa wrote:Lol, I don't think you understand what I meant...

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=313500

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Fixing it now.

Lol, I could see now how when I said '2' you thought I meant Arabic numerals.
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Postby Mahdistan » Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:29 pm

Menassa wrote:
Mahdistan wrote:This is why no one should ever trust me with tasks...

Fixing it now.

Lol, I could see now how when I said '2' you thought I meant Arabic numerals.

Yea, silly me. It actually took me a little bit before I could find an Arabic 2 I could copy and paste, though.
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Postby Menassa » Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:34 pm

Mahdistan wrote:
Menassa wrote:Lol, I could see now how when I said '2' you thought I meant Arabic numerals.

Yea, silly me. It actually took me a little bit before I could find an Arabic 2 I could copy and paste, though.

Wouldn't it just be the second letter of the Arabic Alpha bet?
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Nice bro. Very nice.
Mahdistan wrote:Now... If I could be caught up on what's happened in the last ten pages or so?

Mostly arguing about the expansion of Islam. Same points and counterpoints raised as always.
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Oh, and if I remember right, there was talk last year, when Acro WA passed, of dedicating the next discussion thread to his memory.

I think that would be nice to do.
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Postby Mahdistan » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:05 pm

Menassa wrote:
Mahdistan wrote:Yea, silly me. It actually took me a little bit before I could find an Arabic 2 I could copy and paste, though.

Wouldn't it just be the second letter of the Arabic Alpha bet?

Apparently not, though I, unfortunately, am pretty limited on my knowledge of Arabic. I think I got it right though.
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Postby Mahdistan » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:06 pm

Jochistan wrote:Oh, and if I remember right, there was talk last year, when Acro WA passed, of dedicating the next discussion thread to his memory.

I think that would be nice to do.

I'll add something to the OP in his honor.
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Mahdistan wrote:
Menassa wrote:Wouldn't it just be the second letter of the Arabic Alpha bet?

Apparently not, though I, unfortunately, am pretty limited on my knowledge of Arabic. I think I got it right though.

Isn't learning Arabic a big thing in Islam?
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Menassa wrote:
Mahdistan wrote:Apparently not, though I, unfortunately, am pretty limited on my knowledge of Arabic. I think I got it right though.

Isn't learning Arabic a big thing in Islam?

Only for prayers, really. I've made attempts to learn Arabic outside of prayers, but it seems English, German, and some Spanish is my lingual limit.
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Postby Menassa » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:23 pm

Mahdistan wrote:
Menassa wrote:Isn't learning Arabic a big thing in Islam?

Only for prayers, really. I've made attempts to learn Arabic outside of prayers, but it seems English, German, and some Spanish is my lingual limit.

Does Islam have set liturgies and what not?
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Postby Mahdistan » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:29 pm

Menassa wrote:
Mahdistan wrote:Only for prayers, really. I've made attempts to learn Arabic outside of prayers, but it seems English, German, and some Spanish is my lingual limit.

Does Islam have set liturgies and what not?

Yes, our Salat prayers are set in stone with specific words to be said. However, in our Du'a, or invocations, we may say and ask what we will, in our native tongue.
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Islam is more prone to extremism than other religions.
It isn;'t bad though, and not all members are extremists, there are just more extremists in there, or at least more violent ones.
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Great Feng wrote:Islam is more prone to extremism than other religions.
It isn;'t bad though, and not all members are extremists, there are just more extremists in there, or at least more violent ones.

No it's not. Where is the evidence? I am sure there are other non-Muslim extremists who are being less vocal
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Postby Mahdistan » Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:02 pm

Great Feng wrote:Islam is more prone to extremism than other religions.
It isn;'t bad though, and not all members are extremists, there are just more extremists in there, or at least more violent ones.

I believe it is the social conditions presented in Muslim-majority regions that contributes to the current issue of Islamic terrorism. If anyone feels like they want to blow people up to prove a point or gain something, they'll find the justification to do so, no matter what the religion.
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The Empire of Argentina wrote:
Great Feng wrote:Islam is more prone to extremism than other religions.
It isn;'t bad though, and not all members are extremists, there are just more extremists in there, or at least more violent ones.

No it's not. Where is the evidence? I am sure there are other non-Muslim extremists who are being less vocal

More accurately, they're just no being reported as much (i.e. LRA, Tamil Tigers, Shining Path, most abortion-clinic attackers). That being said, I'm not denying that at current, the Islamic world is plagued by an unsightly-large population of terrorists and their supporters, even if they're nowhere near the majority.
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Postby Jochistan » Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:11 pm

Great Feng wrote:Islam is more prone to extremism than other religions.
It isn;'t bad though, and not all members are extremists, there are just more extremists in there, or at least more violent ones.

Yeah. Definately. Especially in recent years.

Adressing it's a problem and having that kind of even handed dialogue is important.
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