United Socialist Nations - [2015-2016]

[Bahtar]

If a great purge is needed, let's do it.

Aha, Hahahahaha. All I can do is laugh.

Get out, please. Your barred from posting here.

[Great Feng]

I fall asleep for the night and you people try to kill the alliance. The fuck is going on?

Members are proposing to rectify the USN's lack of "socialistness" because they claim it is falling into the hands of Imperialists like Feng and other unsocialist elements.

To be fair, Feng doesn't want to be a full member nor completely Socialist.
Rather, it wants to be an honorary member so it can mediate between alliances and also be friendly with both sides in a conflict so that either way, Feng profits.

[Great Feng]

Aha, Hahahahaha. All I can do is laugh.

Get out, please. Your barred from posting here.

you left the USN though.

[Topkekkia]

If a great purge is needed, let's do it.

Aha, Hahahahaha. All I can do is laugh.

Wow, I wish I was cool enough to shitpost in the serious business thread without being constructive.

[Bahtar]

Get out, please. Your barred from posting here.

you left the USN though.

Dosen't mean I can't stop people barred from posting here to post.

[Bahtar]

Aha, Hahahahaha. All I can do is laugh.

Wow, I wish I was cool enough to shitpost in the serious business thread without being constructive.

Top, while I did leave, if he posts again just report it. We've already barred him from the thread.

[Topkekkia]

Alright, here's my proposal for the future. This is not a solution to the current problems, especially since we seem to have problems that can't be fixed that easily.

I propose that we, at some point in the future, start over. The massive problems with this alliance have been here since the beginning. We never had a proper set of governing rules in the beginning, nor did we have a proper recruitment policy.

Because of these especially, we're now collapsing. I say, let it happen. We'll disband things, and come back together better than before. Having many nations isn't what matters; it's having loyal ones. Helpful ones. Ones that know what they're doing, instead of a cabal of ten active people pretending they're bigger than they really are. We can make a left leaning alliance happen once more. But not today. However, in the future, it will happen. It must, for the sake of balance on NS. We can't just let the fascists run amok, nor the capitalists. That is why we must exist. And so, we shall, once again.

[Altito Asmoro]

Alright, here's my proposal for the future. This is not a solution to the current problems, especially since we seem to have problems that can't be fixed that easily.

I propose that we, at some point in the future, start over. The massive problems with this alliance have been here since the beginning. We never had a proper set of governing rules in the beginning, nor did we have a proper recruitment policy.

Because of these especially, we're now collapsing. I say, let it happen. We'll disband things, and come back together better than before. Having many nations isn't what matters; it's having loyal ones. Helpful ones. Ones that know what they're doing, instead of a cabal of ten active people pretending they're bigger than they really are. We can make a left leaning alliance happen once more. But not today. However, in the future, it will happen. It must, for the sake of balance on NS. We can't just let the fascists run amok, nor the capitalists. That is why we must exist. And so, we shall, once again.

Alright, I agree with the proposal.

[Bahtar]

I agree.

But I am still defecting to SACTO.

[Asigna]

Alright, here's my proposal for the future. This is not a solution to the current problems, especially since we seem to have problems that can't be fixed that easily.

I propose that we, at some point in the future, start over. The massive problems with this alliance have been here since the beginning. We never had a proper set of governing rules in the beginning, nor did we have a proper recruitment policy.

Because of these especially, we're now collapsing. I say, let it happen. We'll disband things, and come back together better than before. Having many nations isn't what matters; it's having loyal ones. Helpful ones. Ones that know what they're doing, instead of a cabal of ten active people pretending they're bigger than they really are. We can make a left leaning alliance happen once more. But not today. However, in the future, it will happen. It must, for the sake of balance on NS. We can't just let the fascists run amok, nor the capitalists. That is why we must exist. And so, we shall, once again.

Alright, I agree with the proposal.

Indeed.

[Albertae]

Aha, Hahahahaha. All I can do is laugh.

Get out, please. Your barred from posting here.

Alright, well let me just apologize for my rudeness in a serious amending of your government here. It was out of place for me to laugh in such a serious enviorment. I hope you will not report me for apologizing and I wish you all the best of luck with your endeavors.

[Great Feng]

The Yujing Pact was made with the intent of limiting the number of members to active, strong, loyal ones.
To increase cooperation between member states. And to have vigorous standards for potential entrants into the organization.
And it is Semi-Closed/Semi-Open, and doesn't always accept nations that fulfill the bare requirements simply because it can get too chaotic and be spread too thin and risk internal conflict.
I recommend that you guys go with Topekkia's decision/idea and also emulate the Yujing Pact model, which was taken from but altered from the SACTO model(As in it was taken from SACTO's model, but altered to suit the alliance better and to make it more unique and not a copycat of SACTO.).

[Topkekkia]

The Yujing Pact was made with the intent of limiting the number of members to active, strong, loyal ones.
To increase cooperation between member states. And to have vigorous standards for potential entrants into the organization.
And it is Semi-Closed/Semi-Open, and doesn't always accept nations that fulfill the bare requirements simply because it can get too chaotic and be spread too thin and risk internal conflict.
I recommend that you guys go with Topekkia's decision/idea and also emulate the Yujing Pact model, which was taken from but altered from the SACTO model(As in it was taken from SACTO's model, but altered to suit the alliance better and to make it more unique and not a copycat of SACTO.).

Yujing pact doesn't even have a constitution, and the standards are often unrealistic.

[Great Feng]

The Yujing Pact was made with the intent of limiting the number of members to active, strong, loyal ones.
To increase cooperation between member states. And to have vigorous standards for potential entrants into the organization.
And it is Semi-Closed/Semi-Open, and doesn't always accept nations that fulfill the bare requirements simply because it can get too chaotic and be spread too thin and risk internal conflict.
I recommend that you guys go with Topekkia's decision/idea and also emulate the Yujing Pact model, which was taken from but altered from the SACTO model(As in it was taken from SACTO's model, but altered to suit the alliance better and to make it more unique and not a copycat of SACTO.).

Yujing pact doesn't even have a constitution, and the standards are often unrealistic.

Not unrealistic. It just has high military standards. It's a militarized alliance is all.
So it needs high spending on defense.
Also, the Constitution isn't really needed-The alliance is simple enough to be understood, and if there are misunderstandings, me as the leader will step in to take care of it.

[The United Remnants of America]

That's because if the nation of Ardoki were to attempt to project it's power across the world, the rest of the world would just laugh. The world sees Ardoki as mainly a diplomatic joke rather than a world power.

I don't know if you are intentionally trying to be patronising when you say 'the nation of Ardoki' or 'the Ardoki'. I've told you many times that Ardoki is not a plural noun; however, you keep treating it as such ICly and OOCly.

In this sentence, he never even says "the ardoki" and I don't understand why you take issue with the phrase "the nation of Ardoki" as this is a perfectly correct phrase, just as if you would say "The nation of (the) URA" or "the nation of Shazbotdom."

I understand where your frustration is coming from- I myself hate being referred to as "America" or my people as "Americans" It's URA/Remnant and Remnants, respectively- But in this particular instance, you are in the wrong.

Also, why are we on hiatus?

[The United Remnants of America]

Bahtar has undergone a coup, and is now anti-communist as a result.

ICly, the new Republic of Bahtar withdraws from the USN.

You can be what you want. With my troops protecting your borders, it doesn't matter what you are on the outside.

[Bahtar]

Bahtar has undergone a coup, and is now anti-communist as a result.

ICly, the new Republic of Bahtar withdraws from the USN.

You can be what you want. With my troops protecting your borders, it doesn't matter what you are on the outside.

Well of course.

The URA is a member of like every single alliance possible.

[The United Remnants of America]

You can be what you want. With my troops protecting your borders, it doesn't matter what you are on the outside.

Well of course.

The URA is a member of like every single alliance possible.

You exist because we allow it, Bahtar, and you will end because we demand it. [i]We're the URA[i].

The one you deserve, and also the one you need, to be honest.

And I guess the invitation goes to all ex-members of USN that they can join the GRCS whenever they so please, whether as independent members, or as my personal bootlickers. Heil SACTO.

[Topkekkia]

Well of course.

The URA is a member of like every single alliance possible.

You exist because we allow it, Bahtar, and you will end because we demand it. [i]We're the URA[i].

The one you deserve, and also the one you need, to be honest.

And I guess the invitation goes to all ex-members of USN that they can join the GRCS whenever they so please, whether as independent members, or as my personal bootlickers. Heil SACTO.

GRCS?

[The United Remnants of America]

You exist because we allow it, Bahtar, and you will end because we demand it. [i]We're the URA[i].

The one you deserve, and also the one you need, to be honest.

And I guess the invitation goes to all ex-members of USN that they can join the GRCS whenever they so please, whether as independent members, or as my personal bootlickers. Heil SACTO.

GRCS?

The Greater Remnant Co-Prosperity Sphere. A trading partnership between members for those that remain independent; An economic, military, and political crutch as well as a safety net for those that choose to stand under my wing.

[New Tuva SSR]

OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE UNITED SOCIALIST NATIONS' ADMINISTRATION

This alliance has recently fallen on hard times, and the administration and prominent politicians of Tuva SSR, Topkekkia, Aeyariss, Bahtar, and others have decided it cannot be saved. At 6:00 PM EST, the United Socialist Nations will be permanently disbanded in its current form. This will render the Constitution unlawful and is not to be followed after this point. The offices of President and Vice President will be instantly disbanded, and all members will be ejected as a technicality.

We tried as an organization to create an alliance of like-minded Socialist nations, and while we succeeded in becoming the spokesperson for the NS left, we quickly failed. As per President Topkekkia's proposal, the United Socialist Nations may be founded sometime in the future, but not as it is now. We wish you all good luck into all of your future endeavors in the website.

Thank You for coming along on our ride,

Premier Kayr Digyatov,

The People's United States of Tuva SSR,

1:00 PM EST, 6-16-16

[The United Remnants of America]

Pft.

Well.

Time to start devoting the majority of my alliance time somewhere else.

Like putting you all under my influence.

[Gigaverse]

I agree.

But I am still defecting to SACTO.

O mai

Is that the flag of Bashria or something

[Bahtar]

I agree.

But I am still defecting to SACTO.

O mai

Is that the flag of Bashria or something

Bashria? It's the flag of Ottoman era Istanbul-based autonomist "Arab Literature Club" but upside down.

[Bahtar]

It's sad to see the USN go.

Hopefully we will be reincarnated in a stronger form in the near future.