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[PASSED] Condemn DEN (by A Million Dollars)

Postby Wrapper » Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:18 pm

Disclaimer: I have nothing to do with this proposal, which has caught me by surprise and is now at vote.

Condemn DEN

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation

Nominee: DEN

Proposed by: A Million Dollars

Description: RECOGNIZING the horrific actions taken by DEN to destroying small regions;

DISTURBED about the raiding tactics used to wipe out any region;

SHOCKED at DEN's ability to form alliances with other regions, including, but not limited to, The Black Hawks, and their ability to detect those who side with DEN and those who oppose their horrific raiding tactics;

FEELING SORROW for DEN's random targets whom do not expect their small, friendly region to be attacked by evil dictators;

BEWILDERED about DEN's choice of targets, as they aren't specific; which makes DEN's act of raiding a sport;

TERRIFIED at DEN's ability to conquer large regions as well, including, but not limited to:

Their latest raid, Portugal;
The West Pacific;
and Anarchy;
NOTING DEN will continue to bring despair to many regions, as well as the nations inhabited in them;

Hereby condemns DEN
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Postby Pax In Terra » Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:19 pm

The wording of this is terrible.

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Postby Drazia » Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:06 pm

No drafting phase? Seems like a red flag to me.

RECOGNIZING the horrific actions taken by DEN to destroying small regions;

"to destroying small regions" is grammatically incorrect.

DISTURBED about the raiding tactics used to wipe out any region;

Please elaborate.

SHOCKED at DEN's ability to form alliances with other regions, including, but not limited to, The Black Hawks, and their ability to detect those who side with DEN and those who oppose their horrific raiding tactics;

Alliances are hardly shocking, and people who side either with or against DEN tend to be pretty vocal about it. They wouldn't be hard to detect. And again with the unspecified raiding tactics.

FEELING SORROW for DEN's random targets whom do not expect their small, friendly region to be attacked by evil dictators;

"Whom" is not the right word to use here.
The underlined phrases show quite a bit of bias. "Small, friendly region" is not true of all of DEN's targets, and there are some decent DEN soldiers out there who aren't "evil dictators."

BEWILDERED about DEN's choice of targets, as they aren't specific; which makes DEN's act of raiding a sport;

From what I've heard, raiding's always been sort of a sport. (Although, compared to other nations, mine is relatively new to the world, so I'm not quite sure about this.)

TERRIFIED at of DEN's ability to conquer large regions as well, including, but not limited to:

Their latest raid, Portugal;
The West Pacific;
and Anarchy;

"TERRIFIED at" doesn't sound right. Also, I think the list of regions would be better off bulleted, but this isn't necessary.

NOTING DEN will continue to bring despair to many regions, as well as the nations inhabited in inhabiting them;

Hereby condemns DEN

I feel like "BELIEVING" would be a better first word, since the certainty that "NOTING" seems to imply doesn't exist, but that may just be me.

Pax In Terra wrote:The wording of this is terrible.

Agreed.

Nohbdy's condemnation is much better than this one. As I'd rather wait for Nohbdy to submit his than blindly condemn DEN, I have voted AGAINST the proposal at vote.
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Postby United Lammunist Republic » Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:12 pm

As much as I would like to vote "for" on this issue, the grammar used within this resolution is just awful. Please change the wording of the document accordingly. In the meantime, I would encourage anyone wishing to vote on this issue to wait for the proper changes to be made. If the necessary changes are not made, I would recommend voting "against" the proposal. The last thing we need is a resolution that's goal is to do good and have it repealed for improper grammar (one minor grammatical error is one thing, but major errors throughout the resolution is just unacceptable). I will be removing my current vote for the time being as well as continuing to monitor the status of this resolution.
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Postby Normlpeople » Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:15 pm

Den deserves a badge... But this is terrible.

I'll leave it up to Den to decide if its worth supporting or not.
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Postby Terrallamus » Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:16 pm

to the original author of this resolution: DO PEOPLE NOT REALISE THAT DEN BEG TO BE CONDEMNED DAILY? IF YOU HATE THEM, WHY ARE YOU TRYING SO DESPERATELY TO GIVE THEM EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT?
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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:16 pm

I'd condemn DEN for a million dollars, but this is a terrible resolution.
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Postby RiderSyl » Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:23 pm

This surpassed 1,000 votes FOR before it reached 1,000 votes AGAINST.

This.

THIS proves everyone right who ever said the Security Council is a joke.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:35 pm

I'm afraid the lemmings will win this one. It is a truly dreadful proposal, but the "DEN is ebil" mob will get out their flaming torches and pitchforks and vote for it in their droves.
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Postby Beastos » Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:36 pm

United Lammunist Republic wrote:As much as I would like to vote "for" on this issue, the grammar used within this resolution is just awful. Please change the wording of the document accordingly. In the meantime, I would encourage anyone wishing to vote on this issue to wait for the proper changes to be made. If the necessary changes are not made, I would recommend voting "against" the proposal. The last thing we need is a resolution that's goal is to do good and have it repealed for improper grammar (one minor grammatical error is one thing, but major errors throughout the resolution is just unacceptable). I will be removing my current vote for the time being as well as continuing to monitor the status of this resolution.

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Postby YoriZ » Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:52 pm

Against.


Anarchy always opposes to an occupation, however we don't think DEN should be condemned because of it. They're just playing the r/d game. It is Anarchy that should be condemned because of the fierce opposition we offer against these harmless raiders.

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Postby Bear Connors Paradiso » Fri Mar 18, 2016 12:11 am

Is anyone else bothered that this is our THIRD proposal on the same issue??? :eyebrow:

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Postby RiderSyl » Fri Mar 18, 2016 12:34 am

YoriZ wrote:Against.


Anarchy always opposes to an occupation, however we don't think DEN should be condemned because of it. They're just playing the r/d game. It is Anarchy that should be condemned because of the fierce opposition we offer against these harmless raiders.

Huzaah!


I would legitimately back a condemnation of Anarchy. Worst native community of all time. Makes the invaders look like victims. :blush:

Bear Connors Paradiso wrote:Is anyone else bothered that this is our THIRD proposal on the same issue??? :eyebrow:


I can assure you, yes. You are not the only one bothered.
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Postby John Turner » Fri Mar 18, 2016 1:17 am

This is so crappily written, it is almost fitting.

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Postby Malviet » Fri Mar 18, 2016 2:55 am

Currently wondering how this crap of a proposal even reached quorum. For one, DEN does not have the ability to raid TWP; the 'incident' last year was caused by the backstabbing popularity stunt of the cowardly nutwad we had for a Delegate. This poorly written proposal is not only incoherent but also very insulting.

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Postby Starkwood » Fri Mar 18, 2016 4:20 am

I Don't really see why people would have a problem with someone's grammar. Not everyone uses English as a first language, Y'see.

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Postby Normlpeople » Fri Mar 18, 2016 4:44 am

Ridersyl wrote:This surpassed 1,000 votes FOR before it reached 1,000 votes AGAINST.

This.

THIS proves everyone right who ever said the Security Council is a joke.


It is a joke. Still, nice to see it proven sometimes. At least this time its a deserving condemnation recipient (regardless of how bad it is written) and not a gold star for a graffiti cleanup specialist or a multi-time popularity contest winner.
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Postby The Dolanets islands » Fri Mar 18, 2016 4:56 am

:rofl: mfw people think they can condemn one of the most powerful nationstates regions :rofl:

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Postby Pierconium » Fri Mar 18, 2016 4:57 am

This one is hilarious. How did it get more support for the vote than the 'official' DEN one?

This made me smile though:

NOTING DEN will continue to bring despair to many regions, as well as the nations inhabited in them


I was going to pass or vote no until I got to that line. It's great. It's like Conan hearing the 'lamentations of the women'.

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Postby Lychgate » Fri Mar 18, 2016 5:04 am

This is going to be another one of those title-voting proposals that pass because people are too lazy to read the proposal itself. Then there will be a repeal so we can have a half-decent condemnation with fewer syntax errors.
NOTING DEN will continue to bring despair to many regions, as well as the nations inhabited in them;

Hereby condemns DEN


"inhabited in them". Really?
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Postby Diauehi » Fri Mar 18, 2016 5:29 am

Its about time Den got the Medal of Honor for raiders! I mean it wont do anything, they have a founder. So what youre really doing is giving them publicity for being a great raider group, and the Medal of Honor. Im glad the SC has started being nice to the raider groups, they are nations too, whether thry follow your "rules" or not.

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Postby An Enforcer » Fri Mar 18, 2016 5:40 am

Terrallamus wrote:to the original author of this resolution: DO PEOPLE NOT REALISE THAT DEN BEG TO BE CONDEMNED DAILY? IF YOU HATE THEM, WHY ARE YOU TRYING SO DESPERATELY TO GIVE THEM EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT?


This is a diversion, see [PASSED] Repeal "Condemn DEN"

The Nohbdy nation which proposed it is owned by the same guy.
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Postby Greats of Greatlandia » Fri Mar 18, 2016 6:12 am

Wrapper wrote:Disclaimer: I have nothing to do with this proposal, which has caught me by surprise and is now at vote.

Condemn DEN

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation

Nominee: DEN

Proposed by: A Million Dollars

Description: RECOGNIZING the horrific actions taken by DEN to destroying small regions;

DISTURBED about the raiding tactics used to wipe out any region;

SHOCKED at DEN's ability to form alliances with other regions, including, but not limited to, The Black Hawks, and their ability to detect those who side with DEN and those who oppose their horrific raiding tactics;

FEELING SORROW for DEN's random targets whom do not expect their small, friendly region to be attacked by evil dictators;

BEWILDERED about DEN's choice of targets, as they aren't specific; which makes DEN's act of raiding a sport;

TERRIFIED at DEN's ability to conquer large regions as well, including, but not limited to:

Their latest raid, Portugal;
The West Pacific;
and Anarchy;
NOTING DEN will continue to bring despair to many regions, as well as the nations inhabited in them;

Hereby condemns DEN

Shocked by DEN's alliances??

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Postby Lord Ravenclaw » Fri Mar 18, 2016 6:14 am

This is an appalling, utterly horrific example of what happens when people skip English lessons to play browser games.

I am firmly against, until such a time that a draft which does not look like it was written by a seven year old is put before me.
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Postby Thorn1000 » Fri Mar 18, 2016 6:19 am

Wrapper wrote:Disclaimer: I have nothing to do with this proposal, which has caught me by surprise and is now at vote.

Condemn DEN

A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation

Nominee: DEN

Proposed by: A Million Dollars

Description: RECOGNIZING the horrific actions taken by DEN to destroying small regions;

DISTURBED about the raiding tactics used to wipe out any region;

SHOCKED at DEN's ability to form alliances with other regions, including, but not limited to, The Black Hawks, and their ability to detect those who side with DEN and those who oppose their horrific raiding tactics;

FEELING SORROW for DEN's random targets whom do not expect their small, friendly region to be attacked by evil dictators;

BEWILDERED about DEN's choice of targets, as they aren't specific; which makes DEN's act of raiding a sport;

TERRIFIED at DEN's ability to conquer large regions as well, including, but not limited to:

Their latest raid, Portugal;
The West Pacific;
and Anarchy;
NOTING DEN will continue to bring despair to many regions, as well as the nations inhabited in them;

Hereby condemns DEN

We don't destroy regions.
Why are you shocked at our alliances.
Those aren't raids they are tag raids we are gone in under 12 hours. Put a passcode on it.
The west pacific was a publicity stunt by the delegate.
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