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OOC: Things to do in Caracasus before you die (MT/PMT/Dip)

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Postby Caracasus » Mon Mar 07, 2016 9:54 am

This thread is for OOC and signups. Please just express an interest at this stage - not looking to shoehorn anyone into any particular role. Some vague idea of your intentions etc. would be appreciated but by no means vital at this stage.

IC thread here: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=370484

Rules
1) This is primarily diplomatic. There will be some warfare, but generally speaking no 1 million strong armies.
2) I am OP for this.
3) Longer, fewer and more developed posts are preferred over lists of troop numbers or one-sentence replies.
4) No nukes (unless it’s a really important plot device)
5) Work things out in OOC if there’s an issue, or TG.
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6) Please discuss first before taking definate military action such as invasion on the OOC thread. I'll give it the go-ahead if it fits.
7) The Peninsula is fairly small, and a lot of it is pretty inhospitable. Your best military strategists claim that it'd be impossible to land and support more than 30,000 troops.
8) Once you're in, you're in. Retconning will be allowed only in the most extraordinary of circumstances - and only for the last post made. Breaking this rule will result in darkly hilarious consequences for any of your people left on the peninsula.


Introduction

At approximately 15:45, a series of events laid in motion decades ago have culminated in a military stand-off between Caracasusian forces in the Quoris province and mercenaries from Parsoh. Parsoh has recently shifted from a generally belligerent stance towards its neighbours on the Iberis Peninsula to one of outright hostility – claiming sovereignty of large amounts of territory within disputed regions that make up the peninsula bordering Caracasus’s Quoris Province: Menthi, Carsoi and Malsti.

Caracasusian troops intervened after a Parsoh mercenary troop entered the Quoris province, briefly, to attempt the capture of several trucks fleeing the conflict in Menthi. Parsoh has issued a blanket statement that denies any wrongdoing on its part, citing that its troops were unaware of the precise location of the Caracasusian/Menthi border and were in pursuit of wanted criminals.

After a brief, but tense standoff, the Parsohian mercenary company departed back into Menthi. The trucks they claim to have been pursuing have not been heard from.

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Helipads, airport and deepwater port marked.
The red circle with a symbol of a person and a barrier marks a border crossing.
Black dotted lines are railways
Yellow lines are paved roads in good condition.
Red lines are other roads. These are often dirt tracks - four wheeled drives are advised.


Lead-up to current tensions – the past three weeks

Parsoh mercenary groups have begun seizing control of railways, demolishing bridges and capturing harvests from nearby Menthi after Menthi refused a trade deal between the two. Menthi’s comparatively weak armed forces have retreated to the three major cities of Jarka, Peni and Karthos and have dug in, leaving most of the country to fend for itself.

Carsoi, Parsoh’s western neighbour has taken the opportunity to seize territory from Menthi along its easternmost border that has been the subject of dispute between the Menthi and Carsoi for decades. Guerrilla soldiers and battalions of Menthi’s army cut off from the general retreat have begun to fight back against Carsoian soldiers.

Malsti, the westernmost province has appealed to Caracasus for aid and reinforced its own borders following a tense naval standoff between Malstian ships and Parsoh. At present, Malsti is still at peace with Carsoi, Menthi and Parsoh.

Overview

100 years ago: Quoris and Jevellit succeed in overthrowing the regieme of General Mellisimo. The Nineday revolution ends. The Paraphanian Empire retreats, defeated – still controlling the Iberis Peninsula.
90 years ago: Other states formally join Quoris and Jevellit. The United Socialist States of Caracasus is officially formed.
80 years ago: The Paraphanian Empire undergoes a series of brutally violent small wars. It finally cedes control of the Iberis Peninsula. The Iberis Peninsula undergoes two decades of violent civil war, with various factions, nations and city states forming and being destroyed.
70 years ago: The city state of Parsoh declares independence from the rest of the Iberis Peninsula. Parsoh controls (and continues to control to this day) the only major deepwater port in the peninsula.
65 years ago: The People’s Republic of Malsti forms. Within a few years, economic co-operation treaties are signed with the United Socialist States of Caracasus.
50 years ago: Parsoh declares war on Malsti and the other remaining city states on the peninsula. The first Iberis Peninsula war begins in earnest. This conflict continues on and off for decades.
30 years ago: Caracasus emerges victorious in the Iberis Peninsula war with the signing of the Iberis Treaty. Parsoh, Malsti, Menthi and Carosi.
25 years ago: Mardok, elected leader of Carosi declares himself Emperor Mardok III. He was 60 years old at this point.
10 years ago: Malsti launches its first bid for membership of the United Socialist States of Caracasus
5 years ago: Parsoh brings in the Upstanding Citizen Levy.


The Iberis Peninsula
The Iberis Peninsula has been home to countless despots and tyrants of various types over the last century. Caracasus has close ties to this region, it too underwent a series of significantly less successful and beneficial revolutions than Caracasus's against governments similarly created by the foreign power that previously ruled vast areas of Caracasus through a proxy government. Caracasus has felt somewhat responsible and popular support seems to overlook some of the worst of the regimes in the Iberis Peninsula in support of a common revolutionary background.
The four main states within the peninsula are as follows:

Parsoh

Parsoh is a corrupt and crumbling highly nationalistic city state occupying the tip of the peninsula. In spite of endemic corruption, Parsoh remains powerful and capable as a nation due to its position. Several major trade networks intersect its territorial waters, and it proves a natural point of trade for large areas of the continent.

Parsoh boasts a strong navy, and a relatively powerful military (the second largely mercenary in nature). It is an authoritarian state under the rule of President Jarthos. The citizens of Parsoh are either wealthy traders and businessmen – the elite who can afford Parsoh’s extortionate Upstanding Citizen levy, militia members or members of the armed forces or the poor. The regime turns a blind eye to various infractions of national and international law provided the perpetrators are not acting against the greater interests of the city.

Whilst always belligerent towards its neighbours, Parsoh has recently translated this belligerence into force – seizing territory from a neighbouring state.

Menthi

Menthi is the poorest of the four powers on the peninsula, forming a narrow strip of sparsely populated land separating Parsoh from Caracasus, Carosi and Malsti. Mostly mountainous, with small areas of lowlands primarily comprised of salt marshes, Menthi has three cities. Jarka, Peni and Karthos. Menthi has a democratic government of sorts, but after decades of open and covert warfare against its neighbours Carosi and Parsoh, relies heavily on Caracasus and other nations for aid.

The city of Jarka is Menthi's capital with a population of approximately half a million. It is the centermost city on the map.

The city of Peni is the northernmost city - it has a population of approximately 200,000.

The city of Karthos is the southernmost city. It has a population of approximately 132, 000

Carosi
Carosi is ruled by self-titled Emperor Mardock III. Mardock himself was elected president of Carosi several decades previously. Within five years he managed to establish himself as Emperor and protected his rule with a large, ruthless army.

There is little distinction in Carosi between the military and police, or indeed between either groups and priests of Mardock’s personal religion – a strange mix of paganistic ritual and new-age symbolism that demands buildings in Carosi are constructed on leylines and that the armed forces consult the stars before engaging in warfare.

Mardock’s rule and decrees have become less and less legible as the years have progressed, as have his personal appearances – leaving some to speculate as to his health.

Malsti

Perhaps the most stable state in the area, Malsti benefits greatly through exchange with Caracasus. Malsti’s government remains wary of Carosi, and devotes funds to its armed forces as a precautionary measure. Treaties exist between the two states, with sentiment between Quoris province and Malsti being that Malsti may well become part of the United Socialist States of Caracasus at some point in the future.

War crimes counter
U = Unknown or secret
S = Widely suspected
K = Common knowledge. Known and probably recorded.
1) Parsoh mercenaries assault civilians. (K)
2) Execution of Menthi civilians (S)
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Postby Flauc » Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:20 am

Interested. I would be sending aid camps when the war is in full with official diplomatic messages, and with some intelligence service spooking in Porsi or whatev it was called.
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Postby Slakonian » Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:26 am

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Postby Flauc » Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:30 am

Hopefully not on my soon-to-be-aid camps.

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Postby Slakonian » Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:34 am

Flauc wrote:Hopefully not on my soon-to-be-aid camps.

By the way, RIP Stop Killing My People.

Well, tried to help out; not my fault
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Postby Tekeristan » Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:42 am

I suppose. :P

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Postby Caracasus » Mon Mar 07, 2016 12:01 pm

I'm planning a LOT of scope for spying in this RP by the way......
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Postby Cedoria » Mon Mar 07, 2016 12:21 pm

Absolutely, Cedoria will of course aid you against Parsoh. Looks great by the way!

I shall soon TG Caracasus in order to establish or plans for the coming conflict against Parsoh, but this is not just a typical nation-on-nation war, there is a secret conflict being waged, in the shadows as well, hence strong focus on espionage and spying is too be expected,
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Postby Flauc » Mon Mar 07, 2016 12:44 pm

I'm going to let the Militära underrättelse-och säkerhetstjänsten (Military Intelligence and Security Service) [MUST] and the Säkerhetspolisen (Swedish Security Service) [Säpo] run around a bit :)

So, basically this Parsoh guy is invading weak nations?


Are the Parsoh, Menthi, Malsti and Caorsi nations going to be RP'd like NPCs or will they have players RPing them?
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Postby Opplandia » Mon Mar 07, 2016 4:23 pm

Im generally interested; maybe Id send a contigent of light infantry/peacekeepers over.

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Postby Tekeristan » Mon Mar 07, 2016 4:50 pm

Tekeri is quite different from old Tekeri. So this'll be interesting. :P

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Postby Caracasus » Tue Mar 08, 2016 12:58 am

I'm still holding out hope for SKMP......

Yeah, this RP will be interesting, I hope. I'm going to start with the four nations of the peninsula being controlled by me, and eventually broadly controlled by other players - as long as their actions are kept relatively realistic that should be OK.

As Cedoria mentioned, there's a lot more to this than a simple border conflict.

And yes, Parsoh is invading its neighbouring state - although the entire peninsula is chaotic - according to Parsoh they're merely taking territory that is rightfully theirs.
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Postby Halfblakistan » Tue Mar 08, 2016 2:14 am

Interested. Will have to read this in depth later.
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Postby Tangaliro » Tue Mar 08, 2016 3:17 am

Interesting,perhaps it's time to step back into multiverse role-play actively again.

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Postby Caracasus » Tue Mar 08, 2016 3:42 am

Okay guys, IC thread is up

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=370484
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Postby Saint Achille » Tue Mar 08, 2016 4:16 am

Definitely interested in getting involved

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Postby Caracasus » Tue Mar 08, 2016 4:27 am

Possible actions and motivations for other nations at present (these are just guidelines of course, ideas really)

* The peninsula has always been chaotic, but this looks to be the first signs of a really nasty conflict.
* Other nations probably trade with Caracasus on some level, this struggle might make sea routes much more dangerous.
* It's possible that Caracasus could be destabilized a little by intervening in the peninsula
* It's possible that intervening in the peninsula could help Caracasus
* Parsoh's behaviour is unusual.
* (as Flauc pointed out) Humanitarian aid is/will be required.
* Parsoh is a pirate haven free city where men and women of entrepreneurial spirit and grit are not held back by pesky "international laws"
* Depending on how effective a nation's spies are and how much interest the nation takes in Caracasus, nations may be vaguely aware of a lot of commotion within Caracasus's International Observations units.
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Postby Caracasus » Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:28 am

Added a war crimes tracker.
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Caracasus wrote:Possible actions and motivations for other nations at present (these are just guidelines of course, ideas really)

* The peninsula has always been chaotic, but this looks to be the first signs of a really nasty conflict.
* Other nations probably trade with Caracasus on some level, this struggle might make sea routes much more dangerous.
* It's possible that Caracasus could be destabilized a little by intervening in the peninsula
* It's possible that intervening in the peninsula could help Caracasus
* Parsoh's behaviour is unusual.
* (as Flauc pointed out) Humanitarian aid is/will be required.
* Parsoh is a pirate haven free city where men and women of entrepreneurial spirit and grit are not held back by pesky "international laws"
* Depending on how effective a nation's spies are and how much interest the nation takes in Caracasus, nations may be vaguely aware of a lot of commotion within Caracasus's International Observations units.


Commotion in Carcasus agents? What?


What should Flauc do? Condemn? Send aid to the Mesorah or whatever nation Parsoh guys followed?
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Flauc wrote:
Caracasus wrote:Possible actions and motivations for other nations at present (these are just guidelines of course, ideas really)

* The peninsula has always been chaotic, but this looks to be the first signs of a really nasty conflict.
* Other nations probably trade with Caracasus on some level, this struggle might make sea routes much more dangerous.
* It's possible that Caracasus could be destabilized a little by intervening in the peninsula
* It's possible that intervening in the peninsula could help Caracasus
* Parsoh's behaviour is unusual.
* (as Flauc pointed out) Humanitarian aid is/will be required.
* Parsoh is a pirate haven free city where men and women of entrepreneurial spirit and grit are not held back by pesky "international laws"
* Depending on how effective a nation's spies are and how much interest the nation takes in Caracasus, nations may be vaguely aware of a lot of commotion within Caracasus's International Observations units.


Commotion in Carcasus agents? What?


What should Flauc do? Condemn? Send aid to the Mesorah or whatever nation Parsoh guys followed?


People with a decent enough international spying ring are going to hear rumours regarding Caracasusian International Observations - basically that there's some sort of panic going on there - although about what you might not know.

You could send aid to Menthi as it's currently being invaded by two nations, you could also condemn Parsoh. There's likely to be consequences for both actions but that's life. It kind of depends what you want to get out of the whole thing, or who you want to help - depending on how altruistic you are.
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Postby Flauc » Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:40 am

Caracasus wrote:
Flauc wrote:
Commotion in Carcasus agents? What?


What should Flauc do? Condemn? Send aid to the Mesorah or whatever nation Parsoh guys followed?


People with a decent enough international spying ring are going to hear rumours regarding Caracasusian International Observations - basically that there's some sort of panic going on there - although about what you might not know.

You could send aid to Menthi as it's currently being invaded by two nations, you could also condemn Parsoh. There's likely to be consequences for both actions but that's life. It kind of depends what you want to get out of the whole thing, or who you want to help - depending on how altruistic you are.


Two nations? Not only Parsoh? Well, I'll be sending aid crews and making camps near the biggest cities.

Hope they don't go boom like in SKMP.

Also, if you want, I could RP as one of the NPC nations when we settle in (IF i still have time then).
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Postby Tekeristan » Tue Mar 08, 2016 12:33 pm

Don't leap all in at the start, slow escalation and all. :P

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Postby Caracasus » Tue Mar 08, 2016 12:46 pm

Yeah, someone should make a post of some kind.
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Postby Slakonian » Tue Mar 08, 2016 12:52 pm

Caracasus wrote:Yeah, someone should make a post of some kind.

Can I RP an Al Capone like figure? And where could I do that?
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Postby Caracasus » Tue Mar 08, 2016 12:54 pm

Slakonian wrote:
Caracasus wrote:Yeah, someone should make a post of some kind.

Can I RP an Al Capone like figure? And where could I do that?


Parsoh would be the logical choice. It's corrupt as hell, and the government will turn a blind eye to their actions as long as a) The bribes keep flowing and b) the character isn't doing anything that could damage Parsoh.
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