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Another school shooting: this time from Canada

Postby Luziyca » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:49 pm

Source from the CBC
Five people have died in a school shooting in the northern Saskatchewan community of La Loche, says Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

A suspect is in custody, he added.

This is a breaking news update. Earlier story below.

A student in La Loche said there were multiple shootings at the community school this afternoon and a nurse at the local health centre confirmed to CBC News there are patients suffering from gunshot wounds.

'There was lots of screaming.'
- Noel Desjarlais, Grade 10 student
Chief Teddy Clark of the Clearwater River Dene Nation, speaking from Saskatoon, told CBC News he has heard there were fatalities.

La Loche is a community of about 3,000. The school is for grades 7 to 12.

"I ran outside the school," Noel Desjarlais, a Grade 10 student at the school, told CBC News. "There was lots of screaming. There was about six, seven shots before I got outside. I believe there was more shots by the time I did get out."

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Multiple sources report a shooting at a school in Laloche, in northern Saskatchewan, Friday. (Facebook)

Desjarlais said he believed a suspect was in custody.

"Myself I'm fine," he said. "I ended up running and telling people get out the doors."

A Facebook post on the school's page described an emergency occurring at the Dene Building of the school.

No one is being allowed in or out until further notice is given by the RCMP, according to the post.

Saskatchewan's air ambulance system has also tweeted it has been dispatched to La Loche, which is about 500 kilometres northwest of Prince Albert, Sask.

An official from STARS said the service was dispatched from Saskatoon to La Loche at 1:35 p.m. CST.

Saskatchewan Premier Brad Wall also issued a statement, about the situation.

"Words cannot express my shock and sorrow at the horrific events today in La Loche," Wall said. "My thoughts and prayers are with all the victims, their families and friends and all the people of the community. Thank you to the RCMP and all the emergency personnel who responded quickly to the shootings. Saskatchewan Education and Social Services will be available to provide all necessary crisis support and counselling services to the school and the community."

NDP MP Georgina Jolibois also issued a statement Friday.

"As the former mayor of La Loche, I am shocked and saddened by the shooting in the Dene Building at the La Loche Community School in my riding," her statement said. "The shooting hits close to home for me as my family members attend the school."

She added that the community "has faced adversity in the past and we will persevere," adding that her thoughts and prayers were with everyone affected by the shooting.


I am quite appalled by this tragedy, especially as someone from Saskatchewan, and I express my condolences to the victims and relatives who were ruthlessly murdered. Hopefully, the perp for this awful tragedy in the community of La Loche will be identified, and his identity released to the public soon. I am also grateful that such shootings do not happen every day unlike south of the 49th where it seems to happen each and every single day to such a degree that it is accepted as a normal part of life.

It will also be interesting to witness how Prime Minister Justin Trudeau responds to this horrific tragedy in the community of La Loche.

So, NSG, what do you think?
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:51 pm

It's terrible that this has happened. Canada you have my condolences.
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Postby Luziyca » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:52 pm

Thermodolia wrote:It's terrible that this has happened. Canada you have my condolences.

It is terrible and quite saddening to hear about this.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:53 pm

It only proves that if one doesn't want such tragedies... one has to be like Japan and ban guns pretty much for everyone.
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Postby Luziyca » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:55 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:It only proves that if one doesn't want such tragedies... one has to be like Japan and ban guns pretty much for everyone.

Or at least have actual gun control. It goes a long way to reducing the numbers of school shootings.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:56 pm

Luziyca wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:It's terrible that this has happened. Canada you have my condolences.

It is terrible and quite saddening to hear about this.

It's awful, I wish they didn't happen with such frequency south of the 49th.
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Postby Luziyca » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:57 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Luziyca wrote:It is terrible and quite saddening to hear about this.

It's awful, I wish they didn't happen with such frequency south of the 49th.

Same here. I've become incredibly jaded about school shootings in the states as a result.
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Postby Faymont » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:59 pm

Sorry to hear about this, but things like this happen.
Crime has actually been going down in both the USA and Canada. I hope that it continues to go down that things like this become more uncommon.
My condolences to Canada.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:59 pm

Luziyca wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:It only proves that if one doesn't want such tragedies... one has to be like Japan and ban guns pretty much for everyone.

Or at least have actual gun control. It goes a long way to reducing the numbers of school shootings.

Gun control does squat unless one combines it with controlling the people mentally ill enough to see such things as reasonable.
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Postby Luziyca » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:01 pm

Faymont wrote:Sorry to hear about this, but things like this happen.
Crime has actually been going down in both the USA and Canada. I hope that it continues to go down that things like this become more uncommon.
My condolences to Canada.

I know it does happen. I hope that it can continue to go down, but maybe that is just an idealistic proposition.

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Luziyca wrote:Or at least have actual gun control. It goes a long way to reducing the numbers of school shootings.

Gun control does squat unless one combines it with controlling the people mentally ill enough to see such things as reasonable.

And how do you know that the shooter at La Loche was mentally ill? You got a source for that claim?
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Postby Faymont » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:01 pm

Here's the thing:
People report on this because there is nothing else to report. That is why so many shootings were reported on in 2015 in the U.S. It's not because they dramatically increased or crime spiked 3 quadrillion %, but because the media had nothing else to report. And, even though crime is basically the same or going down, people jump to conclusions and say that isolated events like this, which happen all the time, justify expansionary govt.
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Postby Galbeon » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:01 pm

I was shocked and saddened to hear this. My condolences to the victims families.
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Postby Esternial » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:02 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Luziyca wrote:Or at least have actual gun control. It goes a long way to reducing the numbers of school shootings.

Gun control does squat unless one combines it with controlling the people mentally ill enough to see such things as reasonable.

It doesn't "do squat". It would be less effective, yes.

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Postby Faymont » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:02 pm

Luziyca wrote:
Faymont wrote:Sorry to hear about this, but things like this happen.
Crime has actually been going down in both the USA and Canada. I hope that it continues to go down that things like this become more uncommon.
My condolences to Canada.

I know it does happen. I hope that it can continue to go down, but maybe that is just an idealistic proposition.

The Serbian Empire wrote:Gun control does squat unless one combines it with controlling the people mentally ill enough to see such things as reasonable.

And how do you know that the shooter at La Loche was mentally ill? You got a source for that claim?

Most criminals who will become mass shooters can pass a background check since they didn't do anything before they became criminals. And if you go into a gun store with the intention of buying a gun to slaughter everyone in town and you haven't done anything bad before, nobody can really stop you.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:03 pm

This is horrible and shocking news.

My thoughts to the families.

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Postby United Marxist Nations » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:03 pm

Luziyca wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:It only proves that if one doesn't want such tragedies... one has to be like Japan and ban guns pretty much for everyone.

Or at least have actual gun control. It goes a long way to reducing the numbers of school shootings.

How many guns are in Canada again?
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Postby Luziyca » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:04 pm

Faymont wrote:Here's the thing:
People report on this because there is nothing else to report. That is why so many shootings were reported on in 2015 in the U.S. It's not because they dramatically increased or crime spiked 3 quadrillion %, but because the media had nothing else to report. And, even though crime is basically the same or going down, people jump to conclusions and say that isolated events like this, which happen all the time, justify expansionary govt.

So basically, you think that more school shooting reports or more police brutality accusations is basically only done because it is a slow news day? Got it.
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Postby Faymont » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:04 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:This is horrible and shocking news.

My thoughts to the families.

As we are all.

It's always horrendous to hear about these types of things, it always makes us humans sad and shocked.
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Way to Curb Shootings?

Postby Luranis » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:04 pm

If the media stopped sensationalizing every single shooting that happens, maybe there'd be less shootings(?) :meh:

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Postby Faymont » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:04 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Luziyca wrote:Or at least have actual gun control. It goes a long way to reducing the numbers of school shootings.

How many guns are in Canada again?

30.8 per capita. 12th most in the world according to 2014 data.
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Postby Skyviolia » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:05 pm

This is very saddening, I offer all my condolences to the family and my fellow Canadians. Its time for some affective gun control. Guns do kill people.
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Postby Faymont » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:06 pm

Luranis wrote:If the media stopped sensationalizing every single shooting that happens, maybe there'd be less shootings(?) :meh:

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No, there wouldn't be less shootings, people would just be less illusioned with what is actually happening. If the media reports a series of shootings in one year even when crime is going down in a large, populated, developed Western nation, people will likely assume crime is going up, when, in reality, it probably isn't. The massive reporting on shooting is driving fear into the population.
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Postby Luziyca » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:07 pm

Skyviolia wrote:This is very saddening, I offer all my condolences to the family and my fellow Canadians. Its time for some affective gun control. Guns do kill people.

Apart from your spelling error, Canada is not subject to American laws, and that applies to guns too. We don't have a Second Amendment that grants us the right to bear arms, and it is not in our culture to be as obsessed with firearms as in the States.
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Postby Faymont » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:07 pm

Luziyca wrote:
Faymont wrote:Here's the thing:
People report on this because there is nothing else to report. That is why so many shootings were reported on in 2015 in the U.S. It's not because they dramatically increased or crime spiked 3 quadrillion %, but because the media had nothing else to report. And, even though crime is basically the same or going down, people jump to conclusions and say that isolated events like this, which happen all the time, justify expansionary govt.

So basically, you think that more school shooting reports or more police brutality accusations is basically only done because it is a slow news day? Got it.

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Wow, that isn't assuming my opinions without any basis at all.

School shootings happen all the time, so does violent crime. In 2012, there were 7,172 murders in Honduras, and I doubt all of them or even 10% of them were reported.
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