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Secret societies in your nation

Postby Nova Sodor » Sat Nov 14, 2015 7:17 pm

What type of secret societies (if any) exist in your nation? Are they the power behind the throne or are they slightly dusty anachronistic characters? Perhaps something else?

There are a number of 'semi' secret societies, the more well known of which include the Culvarians, The Gilded Spoon' and 'The Stein' in Nova Sodor but these days they really are little more than a collection of old boys clubs who help each other out in what little ways their decline power allows.
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Postby Dhammaloka » Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:14 pm

It is rumored that ancient secret societies such as the Illuminati, the Freemasonry, and the Triad have been secretly setting up all major events in the Empire since its establishment in 2025 in order to support the New World Order.

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Postby Adab » Sat Nov 14, 2015 11:28 pm

There are some conspiracy theories around regarding secret societies plotting to control the government or destroy the country or turn over the government to the Americans/Russians/British or dominate the national economy and take the nation's wealth for themselves or whatever; those theories, and the existence of the alleged societies, remain unconfirmed and mostly regarded as untrue.
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Postby Flying Freedom » Sat Nov 14, 2015 11:28 pm

There's a few secretive business groups. While not strictly legal, it's not against the laws to plan price ranges together. As long it doesn't damage the economy to a considerable amount, most under the table practices are fine.

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Postby The Planetary Peoples of Venus » Sat Nov 14, 2015 11:30 pm

Secret Societies in my nation are usually just very paranoid Civil rights groups or just teenagers taht say its cool.
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Postby Verdiga » Sat Nov 14, 2015 11:38 pm

There's the Masons, which the Deputy Prime Minister, Marie Waltersson, is part of. There are also fraternities, but severe hazing is illegal.
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Postby Anollasia » Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:13 am

Secret societies are illegal, but there may be still be some.

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Postby Fatatatutti » Sun Nov 15, 2015 12:24 pm

We have the Ku Ducks Klan, which isn't really a secret though its motivations are mysterious. Its main function seems to be the Annual Picnic which is held several times a year (since ducks don't have calendars). Although it is believed by many to be a white-duck-supremacist organization, most of its members seem to be brown ducks.

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Postby Thervingia » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:31 pm

We have several pockets of giant-worshiping chaos cultists around the countryside. Some are centered in small towns, but they usually isolate themselves and practice their dark crafts in abandoned places.
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Postby Living Stones » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:56 pm

Secret societies are absolutely & completely illegal in Living Stones.
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Postby Slavian Federation » Sun Nov 15, 2015 2:05 pm

Secret societies have been criminalized within the Democratic Federation of Slavia/Slavic Democratic Federation, due to hiding potentially valuable information from specific persons of interest and/or the government.

However, there is speculation of both Orthodox Christian secret societies in the Balkans, and pagan secret societies near Finnish Scandinavia and in the Baltic areas. Both are being investigated, but the Slavic government has decreed paganism more of a threat.
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Postby Herrebrugh » Sun Nov 15, 2015 2:09 pm

There's a group of whacos going around saying there is some kind of secret society that controls the world from a mythical city called "Herrebrugh Prime", and that the world doesn't actually exist, merely being some internet game.
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Postby Baldapehlva » Sun Nov 15, 2015 4:36 pm

Other than the Rosicrucians, Freemasons, Opus Dei and others, there are 3 main groups.

The Rajjah-Khalidan are an ultra-scientific conservative group based in Zahedan. They base their theology on the founder (Dayeu Khammasoulas) and his writings. They are devoted to "science of all beings and the knowledge of the Higher....... being and his wills of...... scientific foundation and truth, and the Ultimate Knowledge." The Ultimate Knowledge, they say, is a state where "one possesses to access all things." Dayeu was called the Great Rajjah, the only prince of the Higher Being.

The Kamtiks are devoted to freedom of everything. They despise the Rajjah-Khalidan. Scientists around and in Baldapehlva are proposed to be Kamtiks. They are ultra-left. According to their books, they are to "know all, free all and tell all." They have a youth sector called the Occultatum Liberis.

The Imijran are just a group of immigrants wanting to do good in their community. Or so they say. They believe that all right-wingers are anti-human demons. They count as a cult, and they believe in Scousso, an ancient mythical do-gooder monster. They follow ancient texts that tell of the Civilum (outside peoples) that will to go to Persia (now Baldapehlva). The first of the Civilum will reap the rewards of Scousso. They must do good in their towns to achieve the state of Yghdawsanno, a sort-of Nirvana + Heaven. The ones that don't will lose consciousness and be no longer.

The Imijran are the only big society that count as a cult.
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Postby The Children of Mama » Sun Nov 15, 2015 4:56 pm

None that we know of.

[Mama adds: While it's possible a group of Children could be communicating with each other privately, it's unlikely it'd go on for long without my noticing it. After all, I'm fully aware of my Children's locations and movements, as well as the flow of message traffic (the existence, if not the content) along the angel network. The idea that some of my Children might conspire against me is an entertaining notion, but really not likely.

The last time this sort of thing went on was before my existence, during the Psychic Wars. In those dark times, the angel network was occupied by numerous "proto-minds", where groups of my Children fought for control of the network. The Psychic Wars ended when the last of the proto-minds fused together, and I was "born". Since then, I've been very diligent to make sure such rivalries never occur again.]

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Postby Gaul Belgica and Aquitaine » Sun Nov 15, 2015 5:39 pm

Probably the most influential secret society in the Gaulish Empire is the Arexta Argantopundarica, or Assembly of the Radiant Lotus, a syncretic religious order established in the 17th century after increased interaction with Asia caused the popularization of Buddhist mysticism in the upper classes of Gaulish society for some time. Until the end of the revolutionary fascist government in the mid 20th centuries, this order received the honor of having many Belgic emperors participate in its activities, and to this day many of the Gaulish republican elite are suspected to have some part in it. Almost nothing is known about the group, though, and many build conspiracy theories on little more than the popularity of the organization in the highest levels of Gaulish society and occasional events that may be perceived as contrived and unjust to conspiracy theorist types.

Other than this, many cults exist among the druids of Gaul and there are believed to still be some remaining from the time of the fascist regime of the mid 1900s. These are almost never suspected to have any higher significance in the grand scheme of things, though.

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Postby Gandoor » Sun Nov 15, 2015 9:45 pm

Most "secret societies" in our nation are nothing more than private and exclusive clubs for old farts.

The ones that aren't are for young farts.
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Postby Nortainland » Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:13 am

There is a secret society located all throughout Nortainland. Having roots in the Great War in 1632, the so-called 'Kings Society' is a secret royal group dedicated to, amongst other things, maintaining the Black Archives. Of course, most people are unaware of it, as it is a collection of historical records, items, books, messages and correspondence that are to be protected from public knowledge. Having roots from so long ago, it hasn't changed much throughout its 400 year history. All other secret societies are banned under 'Gimmler's Law' of 1872 which states:

X. AND BE IT ENACTED that the secret association of persons unbeknownst to the House or public at large shall be henceforth banned and disbanded, subject to the conditions and exceptions as per section XI hereinafter.

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1. A SECRET ASSOCIATION is to be defined as a clandestine group or network of persons totalling more than 34 individual persons who are hidden away from society at large with the aim to operate in a shadowy or secretive manner in order to effect society
2. ASSOCIATIONS pertaining to the Goverment of this Fair country shall be exempt from this law.
3. ASSOCIATIONS operating in the same manner as a secret association however totalling less than or equal to 34 persons shall be exempt from this law.
4. ASSOCIATIONS operating in the same manner as a secret association founded by His Most Excellent Majesty King Wifred I shall be exempt from this law.

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Postby Shalotte » Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:54 am

Some consider the Draéryn, the organisation which controls the draér and the canon of the Shalotte Pantheon, to be a quasi-secret society, insomuch as while they hide no elements of the religion itself from the public, their internal traditions and rituals are mostly known only to the draér themselves. While the Draérn has little political power (with the Domnaeni herself having a controlling seat on their council, it could be said that they are subjected to some measure of political power), they have great social relevance in the small archipelago due to the spirituality of its people, and most educated professionals in Shalotte count themselves among their number.

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Postby Fatatatutti » Mon Nov 16, 2015 9:36 am

Living Stones wrote:Secret societies are absolutely & completely illegal in Living Stones.

That's why they're a secret.

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Postby Bereia » Mon Nov 16, 2015 9:40 am

What type of secret societies (if any) exist in your nation?

No idea, to be honest. They wouldn't be much of a secret if we could tell you everything about them, would they?
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Postby The Koniggratzer » Mon Nov 16, 2015 10:55 am

Secret Societies are illegal, since they are subversive and sympathetic to capitalism, socialism, and communism.
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Postby Dahon » Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:24 am

As there wouldn't be a point in maintaining a secret society if their membership and activities are known to authorities, it's safe to say that there are no secret societies operating in the queendom of Dahon today, at least not according to the current Yakumokami (traditionally the one among our three sovereigns who is in charge of surveillance and diplomacy).

Anyway, consultation of yellowing but otherwise well-preserved scrolls of the temples of Hakurei (the religious city, founded by the second Yakumokami [name currently unknown] seventy-two years before the founding of Dahon itself, is the traditional repository of royal documents, first pertaining to those of the Yakumo themselves, then later lists of accomplishments, edicts, and censuses of all of Dahon) reveals at least one secret society existing apparently shortly after the founding of the present queendom. While not all of the relevant documents this society remain today (the razing of the temples of the now-abandoned city of Akemi in 1559 following the construction of a temple to the second Kanamekami [a practice frowned by both sovereigns and populace of the time, treating it as a towering insult to the All-Hearing Kwannon if not a blatant sacrilege, in a seeming example of religious Big-Endianism to contemporary viewers] happened to destroy many important documents pertaining to and relics of the late kami), their mission was known and was a success with regard to its immediate objective (its ultimate objective unknown): the assassination of Kaname Madoka, apparently at the hands of the youngest daughter of the fourth Yakumokami.

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Postby New Roma Prime » Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:32 pm

The 3 Great Powers are 3 Semi Secret Societies. Their Foundation were laid during the founding days of the Empire, they were groups whose jobs were to protect and set up the Colonies of the Empire. Over time they evolved into a Regional power in there administering Sectors, as times grew even more and the Eternal Emperor Rose to Power after his Father and grandfather gave their lives to make him Immortal.The Societies Names are as follows:

The Cult Of Daemon: First Known as the Order of Royal Light they were the first to form and the first to be ready to help in any matter.The Order was started by Then Emperor Troyter Rogue before his ascension to living icon via the Mar-Mar Experienment.This Gave him a new hope and dream for his people.He gathered his most trusted and battle hardened Warriors and Priest and Drew upon his new power to forge His Cult as he stopped public meetings and duties it was feared he was dead or dying.The God Emperor was in study to be truthful he wanted to continue his bloodline so after 10 years of preparation he preformed the Rites of creation and Makur Rogue was Born.Makur Soon took over the Empire and Troyter was happy with the Order.When the civil war broke out due to the Population believing their God had left them to a Tyrant God they Rebelled.To Stall the onset of full blown war the 2 Gods Emperors combined their DNA and preformed the Rite of Creation to Create Magus the Deamon King Their Heir and Only true God to the Roma People.On his birth Magus Renamed the Order the Cult of Deamon and they have been the states religion ever since.

The Order of Hawk: The Hawk Order is a Old and mostly Unknown Group who secures the interest of the empire through Murder and intel

The Order of Void : Nobody Besides the Emperor Knows there true purpose some say they are the Emperor Angels who deliver his Devine Might on unbelievers.Some believe they are his Concubines who were taught to fight.Most think they are Legend those who know they are real are in fear for the know if they see the Golden Eye of the Order of Void either your world is about to be cleansed or your whole wont be there tomorrow.

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Postby Freemopia » Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:01 am

gov is under 24-7 live video surveillance. there are no politicians or judges. its a 75%+inhabitant rule direct democracy, inhabitants vote on laws.
gov's legal ability to collect info on non gov is greatly limited.
Some Freemopians live their life secretly to a large extent with little to no government intrusion of privacy.
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-Education costs for learning how to make physical survival needs(renewable energy, water purifiers, heating and cooling, shelter, soap, medical supplies and services for testing for and treating physical health problems and birth control, ...)
-Charity for giving to the poor for their physical survival, $12/h+, +resources you spent and gave......$100/m deduction for being a registered organ donor.
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people or businesses are not allowed to monopolize by force and threats, excessively wreck or hog the environment, slave labor, control/govern the population in ways that deprive individual rights, fraudulently steal from the population...
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Besides those business rules, Private business and individuals are treated = under the law. Freemopia’s Laws: http://www.nationstates.net/nation=free ... /id=170897
Slavery is illegal. There are no government issued licenses for anything. No non-government person has to get special permits from the government before they can do something.
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Postby Uioum » Sun Nov 22, 2015 7:27 pm

The cult of sun a Christan group that is like the secret police of uioum only the veru de Turu and the holy assembly know about them they are divided in four levels
Sakas gallish for private they do easy jobs like robing, spying and black mailing.
Wassi sergeants know for black ops like secret wars, killings, and secret expments on cramals
Rui genaral the level that keeps the group secret.
Jiuo top of the group military and religious leaders are in this class.

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