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Postby Petrolheadia » Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:51 am

Welcome! One of the moderators suggested that I should start a thread about cars in general and I saw a similar one on the BeamNG forums. This is a thread where you can say anything about cars: love them, hate them, say which ones you own, which you want, what have you seen a person doing with a car... anything car related.

I'll start (knowing that it would evolve into something else):
In the last 10 years SUVs have been steadily replaced by crossovers. In my opinion this is a step back for motoring. Yes, not many people took SUVs offroad, but at least they had the ability to do it. In the crossovers they don't. We also shouldn't forget about the fact that crossovers have less interior space than similarily-sized SUVs. In my opinion ditching SUVs for crossovers was a step back for motoring.
A lot of time has passed, and my beliefs are reconsidered. I no longer see crossovers as a bad idea.

Instead, now I think they are the next step in car evolution, after the wagons and shooting brakes.

First, the interior shape. In a modern car, the roofline lays low, leaving quite little headroom, compared to the car's size. However, in a crossover, the roofline can be high, allowing for a comfortable interior.

Second, the suspension. Cars have stiff suspensions nowadays, because the scribblers have made us believe that is the best thing. It is not. You are more likely to make use of good damping than high lateral Gs. However, a crossover can (and usually does) get away with a soft suspension.

Third, a crossover is more practical. It combines the high roof of a wagon with a higher seating position (easier to get into), bigger windows (better visibility) and a larger tailgate (easier to load large stuff).

So, I no longer believe crossovers are a bad idea. In fact, they are the best thing nowadays.

PS: Please don't make posts that comprise only of stuff like "My favourite car is x" or "I like car x"!
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Postby Wallenburg » Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:53 am

I prefer almost any other form of land transportation to cars.
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Postby Galloism » Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:56 am

Wallenburg wrote:I prefer almost any other form of land transportation to cars.

Rickshaw pulled by an Donald Trump with a functioning bullhorn glued to his lips?
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Postby Keyboard Warriors » Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:00 am

Petrolheadia wrote:Welcome! One of the moderators suggested that I should start a thread about cars in general and I saw a similar one on the BeamNG forums. This is a thread where you can say anything about cars: love them, hate them, say which ones you own, which you want, what have you seen a person doing with a car... anything car related.

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In the last 10 years SUVs have been steadily replaced by crossovers. In my opinion this is a step back for motoring. Yes, not many people took SUVs offroad, but at least they had the ability to do it. In the crossovers they don't. We also shouldn't forget about the fact that crossovers have less interior space than similarily-sized SUVs. In my opinion ditching SUVs for crossovers was a step back for motoring.

I don't see what's bad about people choosing not to pay for something they don't need, whether that's room or the ability to drive offroad.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:03 am

I approach cars in a very utilitarian way. They take from point A to point B and back. I don't love them or hate them. It's just a vehicle to get me places.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:03 am

Keyboard Warriors wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:Welcome! One of the moderators suggested that I should start a thread about cars in general and I saw a similar one on the BeamNG forums. This is a thread where you can say anything about cars: love them, hate them, say which ones you own, which you want, what have you seen a person doing with a car... anything car related.

I'll start (knowing that it would evolve into something else):
In the last 10 years SUVs have been steadily replaced by crossovers. In my opinion this is a step back for motoring. Yes, not many people took SUVs offroad, but at least they had the ability to do it. In the crossovers they don't. We also shouldn't forget about the fact that crossovers have less interior space than similarily-sized SUVs. In my opinion ditching SUVs for crossovers was a step back for motoring.

I don't see what's bad about people choosing not to pay for something they don't need, whether that's room or the ability to drive offroad.


But they don't pay less for a crossover.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:05 am

Wallenburg wrote:I prefer almost any other form of land transportation to cars.


Why? And would you prefer a man walking with you on his back at about 1 mph and doing a tomoe nage on you randomly?
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Postby Zadiner » Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:08 am

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Postby USS Monitor » Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:09 am

I just recently got my driver's license and am about to buy my first car. I didn't bother for a long time because I was living in the city, but where I am now, it's just too difficult to get around by public transportation, and my job is too far away to commute by bike in the winter.

I'm not sure what kind of car I am going to get. Depends what I can find that does not cost a lot.
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Postby USS Monitor » Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:10 am

Galloism wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:I prefer almost any other form of land transportation to cars.

Rickshaw pulled by an Donald Trump with a functioning bullhorn glued to his lips?


I want that! :lol:
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Postby Galloism » Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:10 am

USS Monitor wrote:I just recently got my driver's license and am about to buy my first car. I didn't bother for a long time because I was living in the city, but where I am now, it's just too difficult to get around by public transportation, and my job is too far away to commute by bike in the winter.

I'm not sure what kind of car I am going to get. Depends what I can find that does not cost a lot.

Probably need something with a lot of towing capacity.
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Postby USS Monitor » Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:14 am

Galloism wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:I just recently got my driver's license and am about to buy my first car. I didn't bother for a long time because I was living in the city, but where I am now, it's just too difficult to get around by public transportation, and my job is too far away to commute by bike in the winter.

I'm not sure what kind of car I am going to get. Depends what I can find that does not cost a lot.

Probably need something with a lot of towing capacity.


I am glad you guys like my Monitor shtick, but sometimes I am not talking about that. This did make me laugh, though.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:19 am

USS Monitor wrote:
Galloism wrote:Probably need something with a lot of towing capacity.


I am glad you guys like my Monitor shtick, but sometimes I am not talking about that. This did make me laugh, though.


Cheap, lots of towing capacity? A 15+ year old heavy duty diesel truck.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:20 am

Petrolheadia wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
I am glad you guys like my Monitor shtick, but sometimes I am not talking about that. This did make me laugh, though.


Cheap, lots of towing capacity? A 15+ year old heavy duty diesel truck.


You want her to bleed money with the fuel cost?
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Postby Petrolheadia » Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:22 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:
Cheap, lots of towing capacity? A 15+ year old heavy duty diesel truck.


You want her to bleed money with the fuel cost?


There wasn't anything about fuel cost, but the car needed a lot of towing capacity.
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Postby Galloism » Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:24 am

Petrolheadia wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
You want her to bleed money with the fuel cost?


There wasn't anything about fuel cost, but the car needed a lot of towing capacity.

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Postby Gim » Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:28 am

USS Monitor wrote:I just recently got my driver's license and am about to buy my first car. I didn't bother for a long time because I was living in the city, but where I am now, it's just too difficult to get around by public transportation, and my job is too far away to commute by bike in the winter.

I'm not sure what kind of car I am going to get. Depends what I can find that does not cost a lot.


I personally find Toyota Corolla easy to drive. Also, they are quite cheap.
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Postby USS Monitor » Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:33 am

Petrolheadia wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
I am glad you guys like my Monitor shtick, but sometimes I am not talking about that. This did make me laugh, though.


Cheap, lots of towing capacity? A 15+ year old heavy duty diesel truck.


I think I saw a pick-up truck for $2,000 or $3,000 at one of the used car lots/repair shops in my neighborhood, but I am not actually looking for a truck. The towing capacity is a joke about how I post as the USS Monitor, a Civil War ironclad which weighed around 1000 tons. I would actually prefer a smaller vehicle that would be easier to maneuver on narrow streets and easier to park. New England has a lot of awkward narrow streets.
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Postby Gim » Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:38 am

USS Monitor wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:
Cheap, lots of towing capacity? A 15+ year old heavy duty diesel truck.


I think I saw a pick-up truck for $2,000 or $3,000 at one of the used car lots/repair shops in my neighborhood, but I am not actually looking for a truck. The towing capacity is a joke about how I post as the USS Monitor, a Civil War ironclad which weighed around 1000 tons. I would actually prefer a smaller vehicle that would be easier to maneuver on narrow streets and easier to park. New England has a lot of awkward narrow streets.


However, I heard that driving license tests are quite easier than those of other areas. You have a test for five minutes, testing you on stopping at a stop sign, and left and right turns only. :p
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Postby Gim » Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:48 am

Shamhnan Insir wrote:Currently have a little 1litre Vauxhall corsa.
When I was in the Kalahari I did work out plans to steal the 1984 Toyota landcruiser they had on the farm and drive it all the way back home, simply because it was awesome. It sounded like a tank, drove over/through most things, and had more pulling power than a damn tractor....god I miss that truck....


Wow. I don't even know what that is. Honestly, the only Toyota truck I know is Tundra. :p
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Postby USS Monitor » Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:50 am

Gim wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:I just recently got my driver's license and am about to buy my first car. I didn't bother for a long time because I was living in the city, but where I am now, it's just too difficult to get around by public transportation, and my job is too far away to commute by bike in the winter.

I'm not sure what kind of car I am going to get. Depends what I can find that does not cost a lot.


I personally find Toyota Corolla easy to drive. Also, they are quite cheap.


Something like that would be OK. It depends on what the used car lots in my neighborhood have available. Since I don't already have a vehicle, and there are a few used car lots in walking distance, I am planning to just go to one of those.
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Postby USS Monitor » Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:51 am

Gim wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
I think I saw a pick-up truck for $2,000 or $3,000 at one of the used car lots/repair shops in my neighborhood, but I am not actually looking for a truck. The towing capacity is a joke about how I post as the USS Monitor, a Civil War ironclad which weighed around 1000 tons. I would actually prefer a smaller vehicle that would be easier to maneuver on narrow streets and easier to park. New England has a lot of awkward narrow streets.


However, I heard that driving license tests are quite easier than those of other areas. You have a test for five minutes, testing you on stopping at a stop sign, and left and right turns only. :p


It is a short test, but it does have parallel park and a three point turn.
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Postby Gim » Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:53 am

USS Monitor wrote:
Gim wrote:
However, I heard that driving license tests are quite easier than those of other areas. You have a test for five minutes, testing you on stopping at a stop sign, and left and right turns only. :p


It is a short test, but it does have parallel park and a three point turn.


Yeah, I heard, but my friend didn't have any of those at all. Man, when I took the road test, I had to parallel park, do the hill test, do the three-point turn, and do reverse parking. :p
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