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MSTO Thread (OOC, CLOSED)

Postby Miklania » Sun Oct 25, 2015 4:33 pm

This is the official OOC thread for the MSTO, a group of allies in the Western part of The Western Isles.
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This thread is for the revival of the MSTO in The Western Isles. The new membership will consist of Miklania, Muunilenst, Polar Svalbard, Doppler, and Franco-Albion.

Overview:
The Mesder Sea Treaty Organization (MSTO), will be an intergovernmental military alliance based on the Mesder Sea Treaty. The organization will constitute a system of collective defence whereby its member states agree to mutual defense in response to an attack by any external party. MSTO's headquarters will be located in Franco-Albion. The MSTO will be formed in response to the increasing threat of Communist Imperialism in The Western Isles. The nations of the Western area of the region will seek to band together to defend themselves, others, and to promote peace and prosperity throughout the region.

Structure:
MSTO will be governed by the MSTO Council, composed of representatives of all member states. The representatives will normally be ambassadors, but may be foreign minister, defense ministers, of heads of government. The Council will be headed by a Secretary General. The MSTO Council may shift authority to a single Supreme Allied Commander, if they deem it necessary (e.g. large scale war).
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Postby Franco-Albion » Sun Oct 25, 2015 5:26 pm

I'm sitting here, ready to post my news article.
Shall I still wait for Muun, or can I go ahead now?
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Postby Muunilenst » Sun Oct 25, 2015 5:47 pm

Wait for me. I will have it up soon.

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Postby Franco-Albion » Sun Oct 25, 2015 5:48 pm

Muunilenst wrote:Wait for me. I will have it up soon.

Sure thing, thanks bud. Just wanted to post it tonight before I head off for a kip. :)
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Postby Muunilenst » Sun Oct 25, 2015 5:53 pm

Franco-Albion wrote:
Muunilenst wrote:Wait for me. I will have it up soon.

Sure thing, thanks bud. Just wanted to post it tonight before I head off for a kip. :)

Then its best you post now then, because I am going to take a while. Im grinding gears to publish my military factbook right now

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Postby Polar Svalbard » Tue Oct 27, 2015 2:05 pm

Heyo
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Postby Franco-Albion » Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:45 am

This is most troubling:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=337003&p=26463805#p26457654

Eurania has declared itself a Communist nation. This may be the MSTO's first trial.
How to respond? Obviously I don't want to go gun-ho and charge-in, all in the name of Democracy.
If we're too quick to pull the trigger, we'll get a reputation of a warmongering community.

So, I propose that MSTO members initiate a first wave of sanctions, targeted at Euranian VIPs linked to the regime.
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=337003&p=26463805#p2646380
Secondly, I propose that MSTO members also offer amnesty to any remnants of the Euranian democratic system.
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Postby Miklania » Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:03 pm

Lets not get ahead of ourselves. First we need to establish the MSTO.
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Postby Muunilenst » Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:04 pm

Checking in.

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Postby Franco-Albion » Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:06 pm

Ditto, checking in.
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Postby Muunilenst » Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:08 pm

So what shall we discuss.

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Postby Miklania » Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:10 pm

Well, it looks like Polar and Doppy are AWOL, so we will have to vote on the charter later. First order of business then, shall be to discuss how we are going to run the MSTO, and what some of our main policies should be.
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Postby Franco-Albion » Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:11 pm

Depends if the MSTO is going to be a purely military affair, or involving political and/or economic interests too.
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Postby Miklania » Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:17 pm

Franco-Albion wrote:Depends if the MSTO is going to be a purely military affair, or involving political and/or economic interests too.

I envision it as a military endeavor, but with other parts of foreign policy mixed in. That is kind of required, as military foreign policy and other foreign policies go hand in hand, but I do not think that we need to worry too much about that. Most efforts would probably revolve around defense deals.

We should also promote humanitarian missions during peacetime.
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Mikey arguing ~ Kamieniec Podolski

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Postby Muunilenst » Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:19 pm

Miklania wrote:
Franco-Albion wrote:Depends if the MSTO is going to be a purely military affair, or involving political and/or economic interests too.

I envision it as a military endeavor, but with other parts of foreign policy mixed in. That is kind of required, as military foreign policy and other foreign policies go hand in hand, but I do not think that we need to worry too much about that. Most efforts would probably revolve around defense deals.

We should also promote humanitarian missions during peacetime.

Yea I would like it to be just a military alliance as well.

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Postby Franco-Albion » Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:20 pm

Miklania wrote:
Franco-Albion wrote:Depends if the MSTO is going to be a purely military affair, or involving political and/or economic interests too.

I envision it as a military endeavor, but with other parts of foreign policy mixed in. That is kind of required, as military foreign policy and other foreign policies go hand in hand, but I do not think that we need to worry too much about that. Most efforts would probably revolve around defense deals.

We should also promote humanitarian missions during peacetime.

Aye, so definately NATO style affair, rather than EUFOR.
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Postby Muunilenst » Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:20 pm

Franco-Albion wrote:
Miklania wrote:I envision it as a military endeavor, but with other parts of foreign policy mixed in. That is kind of required, as military foreign policy and other foreign policies go hand in hand, but I do not think that we need to worry too much about that. Most efforts would probably revolve around defense deals.

We should also promote humanitarian missions during peacetime.

Aye, so definately NATO style affair, rather than EUFOR.

Indeed that is exactly what I want.

Kind if like if one is attacked, its an attack on all of us.

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Postby Miklania » Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:21 pm

Franco-Albion wrote:
Miklania wrote:I envision it as a military endeavor, but with other parts of foreign policy mixed in. That is kind of required, as military foreign policy and other foreign policies go hand in hand, but I do not think that we need to worry too much about that. Most efforts would probably revolve around defense deals.

We should also promote humanitarian missions during peacetime.

Aye, so definately NATO style affair, rather than EUFOR.

Yes.
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Mikey arguing ~ Kamieniec Podolski

I can just imagine Miklania pulling out a rabbit and beating a duck with it then grabbing the dead duck by the neck and beating a goose to death with it. All while shouting what their logical fallacies are and telling them their militaries are inferior to his. ~ Alesini

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Postby Polar Svalbard » Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:23 pm

Yeah NATO would be a much better base line
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Postby Franco-Albion » Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:24 pm

Miklania wrote:
Franco-Albion wrote:Aye, so definately NATO style affair, rather than EUFOR.

Yes.

In which case, as a starting point, we'll need to each have a Rapid Reaction Force that can be deployed regionally/internationally within 48hrs (preferably 24hrs) and each member will also need to contribute to standing operational bases, such as the one suggested in the TGs.
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Postby Miklania » Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:25 pm

Polar Svalbard wrote:Yeah NATO would be a much better base line

Ah, Polar you've made it. Shall we discuss the charter? Do we all just want to use the original MSTO charter, modified in the OP?

If so, say Aye. If not, say Nay.
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Mikey arguing ~ Kamieniec Podolski

I can just imagine Miklania pulling out a rabbit and beating a duck with it then grabbing the dead duck by the neck and beating a goose to death with it. All while shouting what their logical fallacies are and telling them their militaries are inferior to his. ~ Alesini

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Postby Muunilenst » Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:27 pm

Franco-Albion wrote:
Miklania wrote:Yes.

In which case, as a starting point, we'll need to each have a Rapid Reaction Force that can be deployed regionally/internationally within 48hrs (preferably 24hrs) and each member will also need to contribute to standing operational bases, such as the one suggested in the TGs.

Sounds like a good idea. I Can use my lone island base

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Postby Miklania » Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:27 pm

I vote Aye.
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Mikey arguing ~ Kamieniec Podolski

I can just imagine Miklania pulling out a rabbit and beating a duck with it then grabbing the dead duck by the neck and beating a goose to death with it. All while shouting what their logical fallacies are and telling them their militaries are inferior to his. ~ Alesini

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Postby Franco-Albion » Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:30 pm

Ayes To The Left ... (yes from me)
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