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The Qeiiam Star Cluster
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Postby The Qeiiam Star Cluster » Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:28 am

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The number of asylum-seekers and refugees to Germany will quadruple to a record 800,000 this year compared with last, twice as many as forecast in January, the government said on Wednesday.

A nation of under 100 million inhabitants, [...], now has to accept 800,000 new inhabitants in a year

I suggest you actually read your own source.

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Postby San Eulogio » Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:30 am

The Qeiiam Star Cluster wrote:
San Eulogio wrote:
A nation of under 100 million inhabitants, [...], now has to accept 800,000 new inhabitants in a year

I suggest you actually read your own source.

And, what's the big thing you are talking about?
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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:32 am

You now, there is alot of unnecessary words there, let me summarize it for you:

there are 800,000 people coming to Germany, think about it, these people are strange, they speak strange languages and eat strange things, and they all talk funny. Also, think of all the impurity that will enter our pure Deutschblüt! But I'm not racist or anything, racism is a crime, and crime is for immigrants.
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Postby San Eulogio » Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:34 am

The Qeiiam Star Cluster wrote:
San Eulogio wrote:And, what's the big thing you are talking about?

I'll give you a hint.
"We expect to receive 800,000 asylum requests this year" =/= "We have to accept 800,000 asylum requests this year".
See the difference?

EU countries won't be allowed to turn these immigrants, have you kept up with the EU as of late?
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Postby San Eulogio » Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:34 am

Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:You now, there is alot of unnecessary words there, let me summarize it for you:

there are 800,000 people coming to Germany, think about it, these people are strange, they speak strange languages and eat strange things, and they all talk funny. Also, think of all the impurity that will enter our pure Deutschblüt! But I'm not racist or anything, racism is a crime, and crime is for immigrants.

That's the joke ;-)
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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:36 am

San Eulogio wrote:
The Qeiiam Star Cluster wrote:I'll give you a hint.
"We expect to receive 800,000 asylum requests this year" =/= "We have to accept 800,000 asylum requests this year".
See the difference?

EU countries won't be allowed to turn these immigrants, have you kept up with the EU as of late?


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Postby Aelex » Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:38 am

San Eulogio wrote:EU countries won't be allowed to turn these immigrants, have you kept up with the EU as of late?

Ha! Don't worry for us, we will find a way to smuggle them in England or just send them back to Germany. Hey, they should be happy; with all this migrants, they might have a chance to reverse their birth rate!
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Postby The Qeiiam Star Cluster » Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:40 am

San Eulogio wrote:
The Qeiiam Star Cluster wrote:I'll give you a hint.
"We expect to receive 800,000 asylum requests this year" =/= "We have to accept 800,000 asylum requests this year".
See the difference?

EU countries won't be allowed to turn these immigrants, have you kept up with the EU as of late?

U wut m8? Source? Because it sounds like you misinterpreted the EU's policy like you misinterpreted this article.

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Postby San Eulogio » Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:42 am

The Qeiiam Star Cluster wrote:
San Eulogio wrote:EU countries won't be allowed to turn these immigrants, have you kept up with the EU as of late?

U wut m8? Source? Because it sounds like you misinterpreted the EU's policy like you misinterpreted this article.

Ehm, I fear you aren't up to date, ever looked around Europe? Do you know why Germany's immigrant camps are in the news as of late!? We cannot kick them all out. Even if the EU would allow that, we'd have to keep them in for a period of time.
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Postby The Qeiiam Star Cluster » Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:42 am

San Eulogio wrote:
The Qeiiam Star Cluster wrote:U wut m8? Source? Because it sounds like you misinterpreted the EU's policy like you misinterpreted this article.

Ehm, I fear you aren't up to date, ever looked around Europe? Do you know why Germany's immigrant camps are in the news as of late!? We cannot kick them all out. Even if the EU would allow that, we'd have to keep them in for a period of time.

No source then?

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Postby Ifreann » Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:44 am

San Eulogio wrote:
The Qeiiam Star Cluster wrote:U wut m8? Source? Because it sounds like you misinterpreted the EU's policy like you misinterpreted this article.

Ehm, I fear you aren't up to date, ever looked around Europe? Do you know why Germany's immigrant camps are in the news as of late!? We cannot kick them all out. Even if the EU would allow that, we'd have to keep them in for a period of time.

English isn't your first language, so maybe you don't appreciate the connotations behind referring to refugees and asylum seekers as immigrants. Or maybe you do and you're whistling to some dogs.
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Postby San Eulogio » Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:46 am

The Qeiiam Star Cluster wrote:
San Eulogio wrote:Ehm, I fear you aren't up to date, ever looked around Europe? Do you know why Germany's immigrant camps are in the news as of late!? We cannot kick them all out. Even if the EU would allow that, we'd have to keep them in for a period of time.

No source then?

http://www.europa-nu.nl/id/vh1aly4653wh ... atiebeleid
Source is in Dutch, I'll try to get an English one.
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Postby San Eulogio » Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:47 am

Ifreann wrote:
San Eulogio wrote:Ehm, I fear you aren't up to date, ever looked around Europe? Do you know why Germany's immigrant camps are in the news as of late!? We cannot kick them all out. Even if the EU would allow that, we'd have to keep them in for a period of time.

English isn't your first language, so maybe you don't appreciate the connotations behind referring to refugees and asylum seekers as immigrants. Or maybe you do and you're whistling to some dogs.

They remain immigrants: They want to migrate to Europe. You can ask any Syrian on Kos about that.
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Postby Rio Cana » Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:47 am

They had on the news Syrians and other immigrants entering Greece via the island of Kos. They interviewed a Syrian family in Kos and and they said they wanted to go to Germany.
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Postby San Eulogio » Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:48 am

The Qeiiam Star Cluster wrote:
San Eulogio wrote:http://www.europa-nu.nl/id/vh1aly4653wh ... atiebeleid
Source is in Dutch, I'll try to get an English one.

Quota = "You need to accept a certain number of refugees" =/= "You need to accept ALL refugees".

Where do you live? Do you actually know how it works here?
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:50 am

San Eulogio wrote:
Ifreann wrote:English isn't your first language, so maybe you don't appreciate the connotations behind referring to refugees and asylum seekers as immigrants. Or maybe you do and you're whistling to some dogs.

They remain immigrants: They want to migrate to Europe. You can ask any Syrian on Kos about that.

So you do understand the connotations. Gotcha.


Rio Cana wrote:They had on the news Syrians and other immigrants entering Greece via the island of Kos. They interviewed a Syrian family in Kos and and they said they wanted to go to Germany.

What's the problem?
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You've got a lonesome road to walk, and it ain't along the railroad track, and it ain't along the black-top tar you walked a hundred times before.
I'll tell you where the real road lies: between your ears, behind your eyes. That is the path to paradise, likewise the road to ruin.

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Postby The Qeiiam Star Cluster » Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:50 am

San Eulogio wrote:
The Qeiiam Star Cluster wrote:Quota = "You need to accept a certain number of refugees" =/= "You need to accept ALL refugees".

Where do you live? Do you actually know how it works here?

Do you actually read your own sources? Because that's already the second time you misinterpreted your own source.

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Postby Wolfmanne » Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:52 am

Good on Germany. They really need to shift the burden from Greece, Italy and Malta in this crisis.
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Postby San Eulogio » Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:53 am

The Qeiiam Star Cluster wrote:
San Eulogio wrote:Where do you live? Do you actually know how it works here?

Do you actually read your own sources? Because that's already the second time you misinterpreted your own source.

Dear God.

Okay, I'll explain it: Any refugee, immigrant or whatever has to be housed in Europe. And I mean ANY. There is one official quota up in the future for who has to house how many immigrants. HOWEVER: Europe still has to accept all these people into it's borders, and house them untill they can be sent back. Besides that, anyone officially classified as a war refugee has to stay here untill the conflict in their mother country has stopped. Also, although this is one source I'm not sure about, I've heard that refugees from dictatorships aren't allowed to be sent back.
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Postby San Eulogio » Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:55 am

Ifreann wrote:
San Eulogio wrote:They remain immigrants: They want to migrate to Europe. You can ask any Syrian on Kos about that.

So you do understand the connotations. Gotcha.


Rio Cana wrote:They had on the news Syrians and other immigrants entering Greece via the island of Kos. They interviewed a Syrian family in Kos and and they said they wanted to go to Germany.

What's the problem?

Ifreann, will you house these people then? I bet you got a pretty big house.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:00 am

San Eulogio wrote:
Ifreann wrote:So you do understand the connotations. Gotcha.



What's the problem?

Ifreann, will you house these people then? I bet you got a pretty big house.

I assure you, Germany is bigger than my house.
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You've got a lonesome road to walk, and it ain't along the railroad track, and it ain't along the black-top tar you walked a hundred times before.
I'll tell you where the real road lies: between your ears, behind your eyes. That is the path to paradise, likewise the road to ruin.

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Postby Laerod » Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:01 am

Wolfmanne wrote:Good on Germany. They really need to shift the burden from Greece, Italy and Malta in this crisis.

Arguably Germany is already doing its part. It's the UK in particular that's been sabotaging attempts to find solutions.

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