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What should Juldonia do with the uranium deposit in the Great Juldonian Forest?

Poll ended at Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:31 am

Juldonia builds a nuclear reactor over the forest.
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No votes
Juldonia ignores the idea of even building a nuclear reactor.
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50%
Juldonia builds the nuclear reactor in a small portion of the forest.
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50%
 
Total votes : 2

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Nuclear Power VS Our Safety: Decision

Postby Juldonia (Ancient) » Sat Jan 30, 2010 5:31 am

We have an issue here in Juldonia that we cannot decide on! Our current issue is a debate between having nulcear power and NO forest, having a forest and NO power, or having a small nuclear power source and a small forest. This is a problem because we wish to have our natural Emerald Foxes and don't want to risk having to kill them with pollution, explosions, war, etc... :unsure:

Here are my options:
A. Destroy the forest
B. Ignore the uranium deposit there
C. Build the nuclear reactor in a small portion of the forest

I can't decide or ignore this! :!:
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Postby Bears Armed » Sat Jan 30, 2010 6:42 am

I usually go for the compromise option, sacrificing part of the environment to boost the economy.
(This isn't about building nuclear power plants, just mining, after all... and, given the limited number of industries in the game-system, Mods have said before this that each of the named ones actually represents its whole wider category which means that you could "legitimately" RP the 'Uranium Mining' as being for something other than uranium anyway...)
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Postby Juldonia (Ancient) » Sat Jan 30, 2010 5:41 pm

The deciding is over.

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power

Postby Cynthia McKinney » Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:30 am

You don't need nuclear power. Use wind and solar energy.

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Postby Juldonia (Ancient) » Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:19 am

Cynthia McKinney wrote:You don't need nuclear power. Use wind and solar energy.


You are a little too late on that and you are right, building the reactor was a terrible idea! Now our national animal is closing to extinction and we cannot do a thing about it! We also have pretty much no freedom with the exception of whether or not to go nude. I am going to need some help here...

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issue

Postby Cynthia McKinney » Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:41 am

That same issue will come up again in the future so next time just change your choice to solar and wind power. What I do to keep my animal from becoming extinct is keep it in a protected sanctuary until its population goes up enough so its no longer an endangered species and then release it back into the wild. You can also protect your animal by banning hunting, selling your animal as food, and banning animal experimentation although banning hunting would hurt your civil rights and not selling your animal as food would hurt your economy. Don't allow deforestation either.

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freedom

Postby Cynthia McKinney » Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:52 am

Improving civil rights and personal freedom is easy. Protect freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, the right to privacy, and the right for people accused of a crime to a fair trial. Also protect the right to have an abortion and allow gay marriage and gay adoption. Support sex education and protect the right of the deceased not to have their remains disturbed. Don't allow the death penalty either. Basically protect human rights.

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Postby Flibbleites » Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:57 am

Cynthia McKinney wrote:That same issue will come up again in the future so next time just change your choice to solar and wind power.

Cynthia, the issue in question here doesn't have a solar & wind power potion, it's this one.
#023: Uranium Deposit Promises To Enrich @@NAME@@

The Issue
Prospecting company Nukes4U has uncovered a large uranium deposit in @@NAME@@'s south-west.

The Debate
1. "This is a terrific find!" claims Nukes4U CEO @@RANDOMNAME@@. "It will provide an enormous stimulus to our economy and create thousands of new jobs. It's win-win! All we need from the government is permission to bulldoze the rainforest that's on top of the deposit."

2. "You've got to be kidding," says Green politician @@RANDOMNAME@@. "This rainforest is thousands of years old! This country needs more environmental protection, not less. And to destroy the environment in order to mine uranium that then goes into nuclear bombs--well, that really sticks in my craw."

3. "There's no need for an either-or decision," says the government's Minister for Mining, Clear-Felling, and the Environment. "We can preserve most of the rainforest and allow mining of a small part. After all, think of all the good that the money from this uranium deposit can bring to @@NAME@@."

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Postby New Ziedrich » Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:25 pm

Juldonia wrote:
Cynthia McKinney wrote:You don't need nuclear power. Use wind and solar energy.


You are a little too late on that and you are right, building the reactor was a terrible idea! Now our national animal is closing to extinction and we cannot do a thing about it! We also have pretty much no freedom with the exception of whether or not to go nude. I am going to need some help here...


Nuclear power is the best power, and you can have nuclear power and a clean environment; plenty of nations do. Like Flibbleites mentioned, that issue is about mining, not building reactors. Choosing to mine so early is a surefire way to wreck your environment, but I'll tell you what'll help you fix it!

Watch for these issues:

Ballotonia wrote:#060: Supreme Court Nomination [Nuttylnd; ed:SalusaSecondus]

The Issue
The death of 108 year old Supreme Court Justice @@RANDOMNAME@@ has created an opening on the bench. Below are the possible nominees.

The Debate
1. @@RANDOMNAME@@, the Former CEO of @@NAME@@ Products, says "I have long sat by and watched our government vicously attack the big businesses in this country. The government has no right to control businesses and I will adopt that position in all of my judgements."

2. Reverend @@RANDOMNAME@@ is nominee #2. The Reverend says "I am sick and tired of the liberals in this country ruining our family values. Every day they assault our basic sense of decency. You must vote for me to keep our families safe. Think of the children!"

3. Gay Activist and former Senator @@RANDOMNAME@@ is nominee #3. "Our people aren't happy, we need more freedom, we need more civil rights. We must keep the government out of the bedroom. We must respect people's right to privacy and remember that personal relations are just that, personal."

4. Environmental Activist @@RANDOMNAME@@ argues, "Our government has been constantly violating Mother Earth and her rights, all our politicians talk about are civil rights, civil rights this, civil rights that, blah blah blah. We aren't important, what is important is the Earth!"

5. The last nominee is the retired Five Star General @@RANDOMNAME@@. "We are ridiculed throughout the international community for our low quality weaponry, our police and military numbers are not sufficient. Our military must be protected from both constitutional and civilian oversight. They should be given money, and a free hand."

6. Finally, a tomato flies by your head flung by an angry protester. "We want to elect our own judges! This is a democracy! More power to the people! We don't want a lapdog! Separation of Powers! Get the government out of the judicial system!" He chucks another tomato at you before security escorts him out of your private office.

Pick option 4 here.


quote="Ballotonia";p="771"]#097: Landfills Filling Up [Edolia; ed:Sirocco]

The Issue
After claims of two-headed @@ANIMAL@@s being seen near the numerous landfills of @@NAME@@, there have been calls for the government to act.

The Debate
1. "Look at that thing!" wails famous environmentalist @@RANDOMNAME@@, pointing at one of @@NAME@@'s largest dumps. "It's an eyesore, a pollutant, and a damn disgrace! What we need to do is get everyone recycling their waste! What we have left we can shoot into space in specially-made space shuttles and we'll never have to think about it again! Sure it'll be expensive, but considering the benefits to the great outdoors, I think we should consider it."

2. "Ah, the expense!" moans @@RANDOMNAME@@, government economist. "Do you have any idea what that would cost?! A much better way of dealing with this waste is to burn it and use the energy it produces to power @@NAME@@'s big cities. There may be a few side-effects on the environment, but with all the cheap power coming in who would care?"

3. "Oh come now," says @@RANDOMNAME@@, a nearby suburbanite. "There's no need to bring all the pollution into the cities! These dumps can get a whole lot bigger you know. Just keep piling the rubbish on and we can use them as tourist attractions or something. People will flock to see how high they can climb our artificial mountains! If we run out of space, just knock down a few forests. No one will notice."

4. "You're all missing the real solution," argues @@RANDOMNAME@@, president of the '@@NAME@@ First!' society. "Why should we bother building landfills at all? I'm sure that there are plenty of less-fortunate countries out there who would be more than happy to take our litter in return for some cash."


Pick option 1.


Do that repeatedly, and your envronment should come around. And the big nuclear power issue:

#069: Power Problems Need Bright Solution [Plumbumia; ed:Reploid Productions]

The Issue
The oldest power station in @@NAME@@ suffered a catastrophic failure last night, plunging a third of @@NAME@@'s national power supply grid into darkness. There is no debate that it needs to be replaced, but the question is with what?

The Debate
1. "The solution is clear," says environmental activist @@RANDOMNAME@@. "Wind turbines and solar power stations are the cleanest there are. We must switch power production to forms of renewable energy, that will never run out. The only minor problems are that wind farms will take up a great deal of space and of course we can't exactly rely on the weather. It isn't as though we control it. But think of how much healthier people will be without all that pollution!"

2. "Wind power? Solar collectors? Bah! Have you ever wondered when the least amount of strain is placed on the national grid? WHEN THE SUN IS SHINING!" exclaims Southern @@NAME@@ Electra official @@RANDOMNAME@@. "We need power under our control, and cheaply. Coal has been the cheapest and most abundant power source for ages. We don't need this airy fairy wind malarky when we have cheap and reliable power available for all. True, pollution will be a bit on the heavy side but I'm sure that's only a minor problem, with how well funded our health system is!"

3. "Now the way I see it is that it's either green, expensive, and sprawling; or compact, polluting and cheap. Wouldn't it be nice if we had the best of both worlds? Well, we can!" claims fission technician @@RANDOMNAME@@. "Nuclear power is reliable, clean, and although it isn't cheap, it won't break the bank. There is a risk of deadly meltdown, but this is relatively small, and the only people who could be against this are anti-nuclear protesters, but what do we care about those tree-hugging hippies?"

Pick option 3 for nuclear power, the best source of power. 8)


There are more environment issues, but this post's long enough as it is.
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uranium

Postby Cynthia McKinney » Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:03 am

On the uranium mining issue your only choices is to allow it which destroys the environment or not allow it which protects the rainforests thereby improving the environment and also increasing the tourism industry.

I think in this issue the uranium thats being mined is being used for nuclear weapons not for nuclear power as hinted at by the Green politician.

Its the issue called power problems need bright solutions where you choose between solar and wind power, coal, or nuclear power.

On the uranium mining issue option 2 is to eliminate uranium mining not ignore it.
Only by dismissing the issue would you be ignoring it.

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nuclear power

Postby Cynthia McKinney » Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:00 am

Nuclear power is the worst source of power not the best and it certainly isn't clean which is why environmentalists are protesting against nuclear power.

On the Supreme Court issue the environmentalist is an extremist nutcase who says we aren't important only the earth is. The environmental extremist also complains about politicians concern for civil rights which implies the environmental extremist is anti-humanity and wishes the human race became extinct so that it couldn't effect the environment. Choosing this option will improve the environment but will hurt civil rights and political freedom.

On the Supreme Court issue its best to choose either option 3 to improve civil rights or option 6 to improve political freedom by allowing the people to elect judges.

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Postby New Ziedrich » Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:51 pm

Cynthia McKinney wrote:Nuclear power is the worst source of power not the best and it certainly isn't clean which is why environmentalists are protesting against nuclear power.


Worse than coal? Also, a lot of environmentalists (not all, though) are warming up to nuclear power. Recent developments in technology have done a lot to address many people's concerns over nuclear power. It's pretty exciting stuff.
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"When you disarm the people, you commence to offend them and show that you distrust them either through cowardice or lack of confidence, and both of these opinions generate hatred."
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