Return of Gulags?

[Yugoslavian Socialist Federal Republics]

Hello guys!

So for a while, I had actually been thinking about this idea, and despite the title, no, I do not support Joseph Stalin, and yes, I am a Communist who thinks he is not a communist himself. But this idea is not directly communist. It's actually an idea that I had in my head...

Should Gulags return, but only for rapists, homophobes, and those who had commited severe crimes and continue this behaviour despite going to prison and going to rehabilitation courses?

Now, the reason why I haven't included drug users is because I support the idea of legalizing all drugs under a government controlled system (prevents cartels n all but that's another thread for another time). But I was thinking that gulags can return for these horrible people who just don't want to stop doing their crimes. To be honest, it keeps the more unattractive people out and it's really just not worth to rehabilitate them. I know it sounds inhumane, but if you think about it, these people themselves are inhumane filthy people and you know we don't wanna see these horrible types of people! So that's why a Gulag idea in a democratic system or any system can be a great idea for those who can definitely learn from their horrible act. Now, I know you're gonna say you don't trust your government and they will go Stalinist because of this idea, and arrest people for no reason. Now, I see where you are coming from, but think about it, there wouldn't be as much crime on the streets! The most fiercest criminals become hard labor workers for society. It's just simple. We don't wanna see these ugly people on the streets again, because if they just continue, what's the point of imprisoning them?

Alright, that's a good enough explanation... but I wanna know your opinion. Do you think they should return for these types of criminals or for a different reason or just not return at all? If you were apart of a gulag back in the Cold War Era, please do post and tell your opinion! I would love to actually see some opinions that lived in the Soviet Union or a (failed) communist state that had this sort of system.

[MERIZoC]

Oppression is bad, m'kay?

[New Aerios]

Oppression is bad, m'kay?

^

[Dinake]

Gulags are a good option for people who need to be isolated from society at large, but with modern reeducation techniques that number is declining.

[Shilya]

We consider specific people inhumane, so clearly the solution is to become inhumane ourselves?

Yeah, no. Also, keep your morality out of our laws. Even if we both dislike homophobes, it turns out not liking people for stupid reasons is not a crime and shouldn't be.

[USS Monitor]

Not when we have a labor surplus. It would take work out of the job market for people on the outside. We need to change the mentality that physical labor is a punishment or a sign of failure rather than an honorable way to earn your keep.

[Dejanic]

Oppression is bad, m'kay?

This.

This OP is basically saying the left should employ a system similar to what the American hard right supports, but unlike incarcerating drug users and black people, homophobes and racists should be incarcerated. All deserve rehabilitation, so I'd really rather not take a leaf out of the hard rights book, even if the intention is to punish people who aren't "politically correct".

Short answer. No.

[Benuty]

How about not?

Besides where would even place them in?

Alaska is too small, and Death Valley would be too inhumane.

[Blekksprutia]

No... that's a terrible idea... talk about sinking to the level of the perpetrators

[Esternial]

Rapists.
Homophobes.
Those who had committed severe crimes and continue this behaviour despite going to prison and going to rehabilitation courses.

Talk about odd one out.

[Liberty and Linguistics]

Honey, I'd rather see a return of Tyler Perry's god forsaken Madea series.

[Benuty]

Honey, I'd rather see a return of Tyler Perry's god forsaken Madea series.

Ironic since Madea features plenty of references to God.

[Benuty]

Rapists.
Homophobes.
Those who had committed severe crimes and continue this behaviour despite going to prison and going to rehabilitation courses.

Talk about odd one out.

Given the rate of recidivism in the U.S the third group would always be continuously refilled.

[Liberty and Linguistics]

Honey, I'd rather see a return of Tyler Perry's god forsaken Madea series.

Ironic since Madea features plenty of references to God.

Believe me, if the big man in the sky saw the Madea movies, he'd crucify himself.

[Palakistan]

Hmmmm, how about a no. And Homophobes being sent to a gulag? What?!?!! What is this, a dictatorship?

[Daburuetchi]

YES YES YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Daburuetchi]

Hmmmm, how about a no. And Homophobes being sent to a gulag? What?!?!! What is this, a dictatorship?

Class dictatorship not a personal dictatorship. As Mao Zedong said "We stand for active ideological struggle because it is the weapon for ensuring unity within the Party and the revolutionary organizations in the interest of our fight. Every Communist and revolutionary should take up this weapon.But liberalism rejects ideological struggle and stands for unprincipled peace, thus giving rise to a decadent, Philistine attitude and bringing about political degeneration in certain units and individuals in the Party and the revolutionary organizations."So yes reactionaries will be ruthlessly oppressed

[Mysterious Stranger 2]

Hello guys!

So for a while, I had actually been thinking about this idea, and despite the title, no, I do not support Joseph Stalin, and yes, I am a Communist who thinks he is not a communist himself. But this idea is not directly communist. It's actually an idea that I had in my head...

Should Gulags return, but only for rapists, homophobes, and those who had commited severe crimes and continue this behaviour despite going to prison and going to rehabilitation courses?

Now, the reason why I haven't included drug users is because I support the idea of legalizing all drugs under a government controlled system (prevents cartels n all but that's another thread for another time). But I was thinking that gulags can return for these horrible people who just don't want to stop doing their crimes. To be honest, it keeps the more unattractive people out and it's really just not worth to rehabilitate them. I know it sounds inhumane, but if you think about it, these people themselves are inhumane filthy people and you know we don't wanna see these horrible types of people! So that's why a Gulag idea in a democratic system or any system can be a great idea for those who can definitely learn from their horrible act. Now, I know you're gonna say you don't trust your government and they will go Stalinist because of this idea, and arrest people for no reason. Now, I see where you are coming from, but think about it, there wouldn't be as much crime on the streets! The most fiercest criminals become hard labor workers for society. It's just simple. We don't wanna see these ugly people on the streets again, because if they just continue, what's the point of imprisoning them?

Alright, that's a good enough explanation... but I wanna know your opinion. Do you think they should return for these types of criminals or for a different reason or just not return at all? If you were apart of a gulag back in the Cold War Era, please do post and tell your opinion! I would love to actually see some opinions that lived in the Soviet Union or a (failed) communist state that had this sort of system.

Shit, man.

[Liberty and Linguistics]

Hmmmm, how about a no. And Homophobes being sent to a gulag? What?!?!! What is this, a dictatorship?

If it's a dictatorship in which homophobes are rounded up and shipped to camps, one might call it a dicktatorship.

Ba dum tss.

[Infected Mushroom]

I partly support this idea, it would be appropriate punishment for a lot of the listed violent crimes.

However, I oppose its use against ''homophobes.'' That would be political discrimination.

[Palakistan]

I partly support this idea, it would be appropriate punishment for a lot of the listed violent crimes.

However, I oppose its use against ''homophobes.'' That would be political discrimination.

Yeah, that's my point. It's like saying you should he rounded up and sent to be tortured because you are scared of spiders.

[Daburuetchi]

As Lenin said "From the vulgar bourgeois standpoint the terms dictatorship and democracy are mutually exclusive. Failing to understand the theory of class struggle and accustomed to seeing in the political arena the petty squabbles of various bourgeois circles and coteries, the bourgeois conceives dictatorship to mean the annulment of all liberties." As soon as the real levers of power are in the hands of the proletariat only than does the bourgeoisie declare foul play. Bring on the gulags!!!!

[Palakistan]

Hmmmm, how about a no. And Homophobes being sent to a gulag? What?!?!! What is this, a dictatorship?

Class dictatorship not a personal dictatorship. As Mao Zedong said "We stand for active ideological struggle because it is the weapon for ensuring unity within the Party and the revolutionary organizations in the interest of our fight. Every Communist and revolutionary should take up this weapon.But liberalism rejects ideological struggle and stands for unprincipled peace, thus giving rise to a decadent, Philistine attitude and bringing about political degeneration in certain units and individuals in the Party and the revolutionary organizations."So yes reactionaries will be ruthlessly oppressed

What a bunch of malarkey.

[Palakistan]

As Lenin said "From the vulgar bourgeois standpoint the terms dictatorship and democracy are mutually exclusive. Failing to understand the theory of class struggle and accustomed to seeing in the political arena the petty squabbles of various bourgeois circles and coteries, the bourgeois conceives dictatorship to mean the annulment of all liberties." As soon as the real levers of power are in the hands of the proletariat only than does the bourgeoisie declare foul play. Bring on the gulags!!!!

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This whole class struggle thing sounds like the medieval ages. In a free market, you can be born poor and become rich. It doesn't matter what your born at, it matters what you do with your life.

[Daburuetchi]

Oh noes the spooky scary socialist are taking away mah freeze peach. The state a tool of class rules? Oh noes.