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Falklands, Malvinas, or Independence?

Falklands (UK)
20
17%
Malvinas (Being a part of Argentina)
68
57%
Independent (Neither)
32
27%
 
Total votes : 120

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Falklands or Malvinas? (And Anglo-Saxon Bias)

Postby The Northumbrian Republic » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:16 pm

Many of you may of remembered the Falklands referendum in 2013, where 99.2% of Falklanders Voted to say British and not be transferred to Argentinian control.
Recently the Argentinian government has been increasing its efforts to 'recover' the islands and that has sparked tensions.

Sources from old thread:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21750909
http://www.falklands.gov.fk/self-govern ... argentina/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... ister.html

Personally, I think the Falklands needs to be a neutral, independent country and not subjected to Anglo-Saxon remnant empire bias.

So, what do you think? Tell us in this thread!
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Postby The Alma Mater » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:18 pm

Does Argentina actually have any basis for its claims, aside from "we want" ?
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Postby Eurasian Diplomat Corps » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:21 pm

Ashworth-Attwater wrote:Here's your answer.


I love how only THREE people on the island wanted to be Argentinian. Seriously, at this point, just get on a boat and go where you belong.

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Postby Merala » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:21 pm

My mother language is Spanish, although I have an advanced dominion of English seemingly.

In Spanish, I refer to the isles as "Malvinas" although in English I call them "Falklands", chiefly due convenience (and the fact that an Argie won't get mad should he or she overhear me referring to the archipelago, and because I just got too used to knowing them as Malvinas, and it is hard to find an accurate translation of the term "Falklands").

However, Las Malvinas son Britanicas.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:21 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:Does Argentina actually have any basis for its claims, aside from "we want" ?

As far as I know they don't. Argentina's always going to be "gib clay" though, unfortunately.
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Postby Ashworth-Attwater » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:22 pm

Eurasian Diplomat Corps wrote:
Ashworth-Attwater wrote:Here's your answer.


I love how only THREE people on the island wanted to be Argentinian. Seriously, at this point, just get on a boat and go where you belong.


I suspect they're three friends who voted that away just to see how everybody else would react.
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Postby MERIZoC » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:23 pm

Eurasian Diplomat Corps wrote:
Ashworth-Attwater wrote:Here's your answer.


I love how only THREE people on the island wanted to be Argentinian. Seriously, at this point, just get on a boat and go where you belong.

Well now, that calls into question the legitimacy of it, now doesn't it? That's a result Kim Jung-Un would be proud of. :p

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Postby Filimons » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:27 pm

Eurasian Diplomat Corps wrote:I love how only THREE people on the island wanted to be Argentinian. Seriously, at this point, just get on a boat and go where you belong.

According to The Guardian, it is possible that at least one of the three who voted “no” did so out of desire for a second referendum on independence from the UK.
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Postby New Skaaneland » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:28 pm

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Postby Chartist Socialist Republics » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:28 pm

Self-determination. Soooo the Falklands.

Honestly we should stop giving the question credence by talking about it. It's so bloody silly to come to a conclusion other than that the one the people living in the islands have already come to.
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Postby Senkaku » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:30 pm

Ashworth-Attwater wrote:Here's your answer.

Wow. That's like North Korea poll levels except like actually fair and multiple choices on the ballot. :p
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:30 pm

Since the islanders have practiced self determination, and have expressed a desire to remain British, I call them the Falkland Islands.
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Postby Nipponretto » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:32 pm

As far as I'm concerned, Argentina's opinion on the matter has been null and void for ages.

The Falklanders themselves have made very clear their stance on all this, so that's exactly how it should continue to be.

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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:32 pm

Eurasian Diplomat Corps wrote:
Ashworth-Attwater wrote:Here's your answer.


I love how only THREE people on the island wanted to be Argentinian. Seriously, at this point, just get on a boat and go where you belong.

They don't necessarily want to be Argentinian. They might want to be independent of both the UK and Argentina. Or they may have voted no for a laugh in the hopes of being the only person to do so.
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:35 pm

The self-determination of the Falklanders should be respected. So long as they desire to remain British, that is what should happen.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:35 pm

Argenti...nah.
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Postby The Northumbrian Republic » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:36 pm

I think there might be anglo-saxon bias approaching. :rofl:
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:36 pm

The Northumbrian Republic wrote:I think there might be anglo-saxon bias approaching. :rofl:


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Postby Aelex » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:36 pm

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Postby Kouralia » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:39 pm

This thread is back? Well, the Falklands are British and are the Falklands.

This is the only logical answer, and the only moral one: any other is stupid.

Why?
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Postby Edward Richtofen » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:40 pm

I think we should just put a few worships between the islands and Argentina and tell them to swim it.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:40 pm

The islands belongs to the Empire.

The people on the islands want to stay with the Empire.

Argentina can't grab the place by force because the Royal Navy is much more powerful.

The Falklands = British

And let that be the end of it
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Postby Galloism » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:41 pm

Edward Richtofen wrote:I think we should just put a few worships between the islands and Argentina and tell them to swim it.

I don't think building floating churches is the answer here.
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Postby The balkens » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:41 pm

Kouralia wrote:This thread is back? Well, the Falklands are British and are the Falklands.

This is the only logical answer, and the only moral one: any other is stupid.

Why?


I thought it was for the glory of satan of course!

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