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Postby Ogonhal » Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:35 pm

So why in the United States is pornography legal, but prostitution illegal? Prostitution is defined as "the act of engaging in sexual activity in exchange for money or goods." Don't Porn stars do this? They have sex with another person(s) in exchange for money. Home videos are different.
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Postby North Wiedna » Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:36 pm

Ogonhal wrote:So why in the United States is pornography legal, but prostitution illegal? Prostitution is defined as "the act of engaging in sexual activity in exchange for money or goods." Don't Porn stars do this? They have sex with another person(s) in exchange for money. Home videos are different.

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Postby Jenrak » Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:36 pm

Ogonhal wrote:So why in the United States is pornography legal, but prostitution illegal? Prostitution is defined as "the act of engaging in sexual activity in exchange for money or goods." Don't Porn stars do this? They have sex with another person(s) in exchange for money. Home videos are different.


If I can recall, solicitation of prostitution is illegal.

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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:38 pm

nope.

Prostitution=/=porn

Prostitution is when you pay someone to have sex with you.

Porn is when you pay two people to have sex with each other so you can film it (and sell it to people, usually).
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:38 pm

I recall a discussion on this. Somebody was debating the legality of paying two prostitutes to have sex with each other.
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Postby Schwabenreich » Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:40 pm

It does seem rather silly, but would the same rule apply to countries with different laws, say a porno imported from a country which had not the same restrictions on payed sex. That seems like a lawful justification for porn in itself.
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Postby Barzan » Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:41 pm

Lackadaisical2 wrote:nope.

Prostitution=/=porn

Prostitution is when you pay someone to have sex with you.

Porn is when you pay two people to have sex with each other so you can film it (and sell it to people, usually).

Aaaaaand I don't see why it should matter either way. It's still exchanging money for sex. What if you, as director, decided that you should be in the film? Is it no longer criminal? What if you create an elaborate scheme whereby you get to "star" in a film that someone else "produces", yet you secretly back?
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Postby Linux and the X » Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:42 pm

The legal justification is that porn actors are paid not for having sex, but for acting. It just happens that a lot of their acting involves sex.
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Postby Des-Bal » Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:42 pm

They aren't accepting money for preforming the action they are accepting money for it to be videotaped and distributed. Thats the kind of technicallity that builds the economy.
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Postby Barzan » Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:44 pm

Linux and the X wrote:The legal justification is that porn actors are paid not for having sex, but for acting. It just happens that a lot of their acting involves sex.

So if I were unfortunate enough to live in the US and I just so happened to pay for a female to "act" on tape with me, would that be illegal?
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Postby Tkdkidsx2 » Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:44 pm

Linux and the X wrote:The legal justification is that porn actors are paid not for having sex, but for acting. It just happens that a lot of their acting involves sex.



Yep. What's funny is when pornstars become "legitimate actors".
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Postby Zbruia » Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:45 pm

actually Porn is technically illegal to transport, its just the government just doesn't care anymore. The issue really is a weird one though

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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:45 pm

Barzan wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:nope.

Prostitution=/=porn

Prostitution is when you pay someone to have sex with you.

Porn is when you pay two people to have sex with each other so you can film it (and sell it to people, usually).

Aaaaaand I don't see why it should matter either way. It's still exchanging money for sex. What if you, as director, decided that you should be in the film? Is it no longer criminal? What if you create an elaborate scheme whereby you get to "star" in a film that someone else "produces", yet you secretly back?

I agree, its a silly distinction.
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Postby Barzan » Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:47 pm

Tkdkidsx2 wrote:
Linux and the X wrote:The legal justification is that porn actors are paid not for having sex, but for acting. It just happens that a lot of their acting involves sex.



Yep. What's funny is when pornstars become "legitimate actors".

Actors they shall never be, especially of the legitimate type. I refer to them as "porn performers", as by the time they're "stars", they are already dried out and nasty to look at. There are girls turning 18 every few seconds all over the world, and those fake ugly pretentious dried-up hobags that pass for "pornstars" in the US are nothing more than commodities.
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Postby Gravonia » Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:47 pm

Is prostitution illegal? In Britain prostitution is legal but poncing (i.e. Making money from the proceeds of prostitution isn't. Does it work differently in the US?
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Postby Antilon » Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:49 pm

fapping =/= fucking

That is all.

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Postby Barzan » Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:50 pm

Antilon wrote:fapping =/= fucking

That is all.

Orly? Aren't you banging yourself when you fap? Isn't that the whole point to when someone says "fuck yourself"?
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Postby Gravonia » Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:54 pm

Antilon wrote:fapping =/= fucking

That is all.
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Postby Antilon » Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:55 pm

Barzan wrote:
Antilon wrote:fapping =/= fucking

That is all.

Orly? Aren't you banging yourself when you fap? Isn't that the whole point to when someone says "fuck yourself"?


I believe that comment is translated as "Go make a clone of yourself and commit incest."

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Postby Lord-General Drache » Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:55 pm

Ogonhal wrote:So why in the United States is pornography legal, but prostitution illegal? Prostitution is defined as "the act of engaging in sexual activity in exchange for money or goods." Don't Porn stars do this? They have sex with another person(s) in exchange for money. Home videos are different.


Damn it, man. We had this thread perhaps 2 weeks ago.
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Postby Gravonia » Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:55 pm

Antilon wrote:fapping =/= fucking

That is all.



???

Now I love porn and fapping.

But it's not the same as fucking.
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Postby Blitzkrenia » Sun Jan 24, 2010 5:01 pm

Gravonia wrote:
Antilon wrote:fapping =/= fucking

That is all.



???

Now I love porn and fapping.

But it's not the same as fucking.

Eh... =/= means "not equal to".
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Postby Barzan » Sun Jan 24, 2010 5:01 pm

What it really boils down to is the absence of a multi-billion dollar lobby in favour of prostitution. Otherwise I'm sure there'd be legal loopholes for it as well.
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Postby Des-Bal » Sun Jan 24, 2010 5:02 pm

Gravonia wrote:Is prostitution illegal? In Britain prostitution is legal but poncing (i.e. Making money from the proceeds of prostitution isn't. Does it work differently in the US?

I think Pimping is the term for american Poncing but its completely illegal. Except in Nevada alot of things deemed morally wrong are okay in Nevada, it's God's blindspot.
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