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Who do you support, NSG?

AKP
18
10%
CHP
74
42%
MHP
19
11%
HDP
59
33%
Other(please specify)
7
4%
 
Total votes : 177

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Turkey Votes 2015(Parliamentary elections)

Postby Shrillland » Tue May 26, 2015 3:14 pm

Less than two weeks from today(May 26), Turks will be voting for all 550 seats of the Grand National Assembly on Sunday, June 7. Apart from the four major parties(which will be described), there are several smaller parties hoping to cross the 10% threshold needed to win seats. Let's meet the four major parties with information coming from Wiki.

Justice and Development Party(AKP)

This Conservative party that currently holds the majority in Parliament, and it's also the party of Turkey's current President, Recep Erdogan. Their parliamentary leader is Prime Minister Ahmet Davatoglu. Part of their platform includes changing the constitution to create a stronger presidential republic. They also plan to raise pensions, continue work on the Kanal Istanbul project, and expand the nation's high-speed rail system. They also want to give Turkey a more active role in regional affairs while continuing to push for EU membership. However, they have been criticised by many for eroding turkey's secular Islamic principles, which coukld be furthered by several of the party's proposed constitutional amendments in the New Turkey Contract. The AKP currently has 312 seats.

Republican People's Party(CHP)

This is the party of Ataturk, and is currently being led by Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu. It's a social democratic party that wants raise disability benefits and increase the monthly minimum wage to 1,500 Turkish Lira(roughly US$570) from the current 900 Lira. They also wish to grant pensioners large payouts on Eid al-Fitr and Eid al-Adha. They also want to abolish the "Taseron contract" which was implemented by the AKP and hires public workers on a temporary basis, and they plan to reduce inflation to 4% annually while reducing unemployment to 5%. They also plan to build a large city as a trade hub for the region by 2035. The CHP currently has 125 seats.

Nationalist Movement Party(MHP)

This far-right, Turkish nationalist party is led by Devlet Bahçeli. They wish to bring an end to the "solution process", which is the ongoing peace negotations between the Turkish Government and Kurdish separatist groups such as the PKK(Kurdistan' Workers Party). Unlike the AKP, they are a more secular party and wish to increase the monthly minimum wage to 1,400 lira. They also support amending the constitution, but they wish to keep references to "Turks" that the AKP wishes to remove. They also do not witsh for other ethnic minorities to be recognised by the constitution. In other matters, they wish to reduce compulsory schooling lengths to nine years from the current 12-year requirement, build a manufacturing-based economy, investiagte all individuals implicated in a 2013 corruption scandal, and instigate a strong international response to terrorist organisations such as IS. The NHP currently has 52 seats.

Peoples' Democratic Party(HDP)

This left-wing party is lead by Selahattin Demirtaş and Figen Yüksekdağ. It's the closest thing Turkey has to a Green Party, and was largely involved in the Gezi Park demonstrations of 2013. They're considered a social democratic party, and they're anti-nationalist. Their platform includes the creation of a Ministry of Women and making March 8-International Women's Day-a national holiday. They also plan to abolish the Presidency of Religious Affairs(the spiritual successor to the Ottoman Caliphs enshrined in the constitution) and the Council of Higher Education while making university tuition more affordable. They also favour opening the border with Armenia, instituting policies to end homophobia, and stopping investment in nuclear power while reducing the work week to 35 hours. In terms of constitutional change, they support a co-premiership system for parties with more than one leader(such as the HDP, which requires one man and one woman to lead them), and allow provincial governors to be elected rather than appointed as they are now. They also wish to raise the monthly minimum wage to 1,800 lira. The HDP currently has 29 seats.

32 other seats are either vacant or belong to independents and smaller parties.

So, NSG, who do you support?

Although I agree more with the HDP, I have to support the CHP this time around, if only to put a stop to Erdogan''s and Davatoglu's mad rush to destroying the secular state and muzzling the armed forces that have defended these principles.
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Postby Geilinor » Tue May 26, 2015 3:17 pm

I support the CHP, the AKP has far too many problems with cracking down on basic freedoms and has had a major corruption scandal.
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Postby Insaeldor » Tue May 26, 2015 3:18 pm

General supporter of CHP. The Grey Wolves while I agree with them on something's seem far to radical in nearly all aspects and the AKP are your typical authoritarian Conservative party with Islamist leanings.
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Postby The Eastern Antarctic State » Tue May 26, 2015 3:18 pm

Ataturk's Party sounds okay.
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Postby The Island of Quickscopers » Tue May 26, 2015 3:18 pm

My taste detects Anatolia Party.
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Postby Anollasia » Tue May 26, 2015 3:20 pm

I'd support CHP. It would be better if they had a stronger leader, but definitely better than AKP.

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Postby Shrillland » Tue May 26, 2015 3:22 pm



I think that's because many Turks agree with muzzling the army on principle of wanting to be a democracy, and also because they want to be in the EU, and only the AKP has actively pursued membership.
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Postby Anollasia » Tue May 26, 2015 3:23 pm

The Island of Quickscopers wrote:My taste detects Anatolia Party.


That also sounds like a good party, though they're still not that popular.



I heard AKP is losing votes though. They might win by minority vote only. Or something like that.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue May 26, 2015 3:23 pm


How the fuck does the AKP survive at all, much less retain its popularity?
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Postby Anollasia » Tue May 26, 2015 3:23 pm

Shrillland wrote:


I think that's because many Turks agree with muzzling the army on principle of wanting to be a democracy, and also because they want to be in the EU, and only the AKP has actively pursued membership.


Nobody really wants to be in the EU anymore. The government isn't even trying either.

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Postby Shrillland » Tue May 26, 2015 3:25 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:

How the fuck does the AKP survive at all, much less retain its popularity?


They're also the only really pro-business and free enterprise party. So they still manage to do well despite abolishing Turkey's pledge of allegiance to uphold Ataturk's principles.
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Postby Anollasia » Tue May 26, 2015 3:26 pm

Shrillland wrote:This far-left party is lead by Selahattin Demirtaş and Figen Yüksekdağ. It's the closest thing Turkey has to a Green Party,


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greens_Party_(Turkey)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greens_and ... the_Future

Actually, Turkey already has two Green parties, though they're not popular.

Edit: Actually, the first one merged with the second one, but still.
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Postby Anollasia » Tue May 26, 2015 3:26 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:How the fuck does the AKP survive at all, much less retain its popularity?


So they still manage to do well despite abolishing Turkey's pledge of allegiance to uphold Ataturk's principles.


When did they do that?

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Postby Shrillland » Tue May 26, 2015 3:28 pm

Anollasia wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
So they still manage to do well despite abolishing Turkey's pledge of allegiance to uphold Ataturk's principles.


When did they do that?


http://www.todayszaman.com/latest-news_turkey-puts-end-to-controversial-student-oath-headscarf-ban_328422.html

October 2013, the same time they allowed hijabs in public again.
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Postby MERIZoC » Tue May 26, 2015 3:36 pm

HDP seems cool.

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Postby Shrillland » Tue May 26, 2015 4:34 pm

Merizoc wrote:HDP seems cool.


Indeed it does, and I'd support it if it wasn't for the fact that it's the CHP that's needed at this particular juncture to stop the AKP.
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Postby Aalmark » Tue May 26, 2015 5:05 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:

How the fuck does the AKP survive at all, much less retain its popularity?


Turkey has shifted to the religious right in the last decade. The national attitude has seen a revival in religious fundamentalism and the like, and the country is embracing it's Middle Eastern, as opposed to Western, roots. This is concerning.

I support the CHP. I am not left wing, nor am I pro EU(especially for Turkey), yet it's Turkey's best bet. It's either them or the islamists and fundies, so I'll choose the secularists.
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Postby Aalmark » Tue May 26, 2015 5:06 pm

Merizoc wrote:HDP seems cool.


A vote for the HDP is a vote for Erdogan.
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Postby Osterreich-Bayern » Tue May 26, 2015 5:35 pm

Not an expert on Turkish politics but what based of the op I liked the AKP standings im confused on the CHP wants to increase the minimium wage by about 75% (prob fd up that math calculator to far) and lower the unemployment rate to 5% i do not know the current unemployment rate though
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Postby Aalmark » Tue May 26, 2015 5:37 pm

Osterreich-Bayern wrote:Not an expert on Turkish politics but what based of the op I liked the AKP standings im confused on the CHP wants to increase the minimium wage by about 75% (prob fd up that math calculator to far) and lower the unemployment rate to 5% i do not know the current unemployment rate though


Are you a fan of Islamic fundamentalism? If not, then say "fuck the AKP?" Are you a fan of mass corruption, nepotism, and authoritarianism? If not, then say "fuck the AKP."
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Postby Osterreich-Bayern » Tue May 26, 2015 5:45 pm

Aalmark wrote:
Osterreich-Bayern wrote:Not an expert on Turkish politics but what based of the op I liked the AKP standings im confused on the CHP wants to increase the minimium wage by about 75% (prob fd up that math calculator to far) and lower the unemployment rate to 5% i do not know the current unemployment rate though


Are you a fan of Islamic fundamentalism? If not, then say "fuck the AKP?" Are you a fan of mass corruption, nepotism, and authoritarianism? If not, then say "fuck the AKP."

My knowledge of Turkish politics is what was in the op as far as a fan of Islamic fundamentalism THATS a no neither to corruption nepotism and authoritarianism
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Postby Shrillland » Tue May 26, 2015 5:46 pm

Osterreich-Bayern wrote:Not an expert on Turkish politics but what based of the op I liked the AKP standings im confused on the CHP wants to increase the minimium wage by about 75% (prob fd up that math calculator to far) and lower the unemployment rate to 5% i do not know the current unemployment rate though


Well, up by 66%. As it stands, the monthly minimum wage equates to about $3.50 an hour and inflation is running pretty high. As for unemployment, the Turkish Statistics Institute says that it's currently at 11.2% as of the end of February(the latest time statistics cover).
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Postby Osterreich-Bayern » Tue May 26, 2015 5:46 pm

Aalmark wrote:
Osterreich-Bayern wrote:Not an expert on Turkish politics but what based of the op I liked the AKP standings im confused on the CHP wants to increase the minimium wage by about 75% (prob fd up that math calculator to far) and lower the unemployment rate to 5% i do not know the current unemployment rate though


Are you a fan of Islamic fundamentalism? If not, then say "fuck the AKP?" Are you a fan of mass corruption, nepotism, and authoritarianism? If not, then say "fuck the AKP."

Also ingnored the raise miniumum wage and lower unemployment claim
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