2015 UK Politics Megathread

[The Archregimancy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZIJNQU7lyU

This thread is the successor to the previous UK election thread.

The original thread can be found here:

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=317090&start=10925

It's the direct continuation of the previous thread, so feel free to continue discussion from that thread here.

Yes, I know the poll is imperfect; I hope Sinn Fein & SDLP supporters in particular will forgive me for placing them together; but there's only 10 poll options, and I had to compromise over the Northern Ireland options to a Manichaean republican/nationalist v. unionist/loyalist choice.


I would remind everyone of the following:

Don't worry, I'm keeping an eye on it - and I'll be up late on the 7th as well.

But a reminder here to everyone for the 7th and 8th....

NO GLOATING.

Celebrating your own party's success (which, let's face it, likely means SNP supporters) is absolutely fine. Writing something along the lines of 'this amazing unprecedented victory marks a new dawn for Scotland' is absolutely fine. Writing something along the lines of 'HA HA - fuck you you fucking English Tory losers' will find the moderation team coming down on you like the proverbial tonne of bricks. Likewise gloating over individual MPs losing their seats; even George Galloway.

I apologise to SNP voters if it looks like I'm singling you out with the above. I don't intend to - it's just simple recognition that you're likely the only people who'll have much to celebrate on the 8th. Everyone else will probably be nursing a massive psephological hangover.

we're still allowed to go "i'm really happy nick clegg lost his seat because this might shake up the lib dems politically and discourage them from doing anything like that ever again also he's shit" right? assuming he does. which unfortunately some people in the heat of the moment might shorten down to "YES!". it's not like nick clegg is posting here. (or is he...?)

I think "i'm really happy nick clegg lost his seat because this might shake up the lib dems politically and discourage them from doing anything like that ever again" would be entirely acceptable. That involves a reasoned argument over why you're happy that someone has lost a seat.

I would, however, caution people against describing any of the party leaders as "shit" if that party does badly or if said leader loses his/her seat.

Also, I am not Nick Clegg.

Or am I?

[Arglorand]

Also, I am not Nick Clegg.

Or am I?

Would actually explain a few things.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Also, I am not Nick Clegg.

Or am I?

*Gasp*

I knew it all along!

Still dont know if ill vote for anyone, think ill give it a skip this year.

[The Archregimancy]

Also, I am not Nick Clegg.

Or am I?

Would actually explain a few things.

Except that you like me rather better than you like Nick Clegg

Maybe.

[Arkolon]

Nice to be back.

[Arglorand]

Would actually explain a few things.

Except that you like me rather better than you like Nick Clegg

Maybe.

Hah, fair point.

[Die Volkstaat]

Let's Get Pumped!.

Anyways, I found this neat little BBC game some of you may like. Basically, it gives you a random election result, and you have to form a coalition. Kinda neat.

[Die Volkstaat]

Also, I am not Nick Clegg.

Or am I?

Would actually explain a few things.

Nick Clegg is an Orthodox Christian like Arch? What a twist!

[Kelinfort]

Did the old thread surpass 500 pages?

[The Jonathanian States]

Also, I am not Nick Clegg.

Or am I?

Would actually explain a few things.

It would actually be quite amusing to consider actual politically important people to dwell on NS.

Let's Get Pumped!.

Anyways, I found this neat little BBC game some of you may like. Basically, it gives you a random election result, and you have to form a coalition. Kinda neat.

Sounds quite fun.

[Die Volkstaat]

Did the old thread surpass 500 pages?

No, but I imagine it'd be clogged with posts these days. There was a Scottish independence referendum thread here that moved faster than an IRC.

[Appalatchia]

I think you're confusing opposition to multiculturalism with racism. Such a comparison is flawed. If you could explain why being opposed to the concept of distinct cultures living alongside each other is racist, I'd appreciate it.

I think this deserves a mention because it so perfectly captures why I am so vehemently opposed to UKIP and why I view their positions as racist. Opposing 'the concept of the distinct cultures living alongside each other' is a roundabout way of supporting one of two things.

Either 1. Segregation, you think that people who aren't 100% conformist to whatever your concept of "British" culture is should be forced to live in separate communities.

or

2. Fascism. You think those people should be removed entirely.

'Multiculturalism' is how all modern societies operate. It's how British society got to be how it is now and it is how it will be moving forward. That's just a plain fact. Ukippers use opposition to 'multiculturalism' as a gentle way of saying they hate . Farage himself said that people should be, and I quote, "afraid" if Romanians move into their neighbourhood. If that's not racism, if that's not stereotyping and hate mongering, I don't know what is.

[The Archregimancy]

Would actually explain a few things.

Nick Clegg is an Orthodox Christian like Arch? What a twist!

Clegg's grandmother "Kira von Engelhardt Freiin von Smolensk was a Russian baroness, and the granddaughter of Attorney-General of the Russian senate, Ignatiy Platonovich Zakrevsky".

So you never know...

This atheism thing might be a lark to conceal his true faith. After all, the Daily Mail is likely to prefer atheism over Russian Orthodoxy.

[The Archregimancy]

Did the old thread surpass 500 pages?

No - it was a pre-emptive strike since it's likely to pass 500 pages tonight or tomorrow.

[Arglorand]

Would actually explain a few things.

It would actually be quite amusing to consider actual politically important people to dwell on NS.

I could've sworn Dejanic is Blair or at least Alastair Campbell, so there's that.

[Alyakia]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqrHHOqhyYU

this video is posted in preparation for the election with a 100% neutral viewpoint

[The Huskar Social Union]

Let's Get Pumped!.

Anyways, I found this neat little BBC game some of you may like. Basically, it gives you a random election result, and you have to form a coalition. Kinda neat.

I got a coalition with Labour, SNP and SDLP.

Though i doubt the SNP would go into a coalition given the relationship between the two parties.

Other than that i dont really see how i could form one as them.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Arch, would you be able to politely ask people on the OP to only vote on the poll if they're actually British? That way we can form a good view of what NS' British population would do.

[MERIZoC]

Arch, would you be able to politely ask people on the OP to only vote on the poll if they're actually British? That way we can form a good view of what NS' British population would do.

Even if Arch were to ask that, it'd hardly be plausible.

[The Archregimancy]

Arch, would you be able to politely ask people on the OP to only vote on the poll if they're actually British? That way we can form a good view of what NS' British population would do.

Not practical, largely because it's unenforceable.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Arch, would you be able to politely ask people on the OP to only vote on the poll if they're actually British? That way we can form a good view of what NS' British population would do.

Even if Arch were to ask that, it'd hardly be plausible.

Yeah, not everyone is going to abide by that, very few will most likely.

[The Jonathanian States]

Arch, would you be able to politely ask people on the OP to only vote on the poll if they're actually British? That way we can form a good view of what NS' British population would do.

21% for UKIP and Plaid Cymru each... indeed seems somewhat off.

[Arglorand]

Let's Get Pumped!.

Anyways, I found this neat little BBC game some of you may like. Basically, it gives you a random election result, and you have to form a coalition. Kinda neat.

I got a coalition with Labour, SNP and SDLP.

Though i doubt the SNP would go into a coalition given the relationship between the two parties.

Other than that i dont really see how i could form one as them.

I got a coalition with Labour and SNP, but added Plaid and SDLP because otherwise it ain't fair.

[HYDRA-Russian Empire]

Conservatives for Life!

I am not sure why I vote for Conservatives. I just live in a place where everyone votes for conservatives. Vote for Conservatives! I don't want to pay Mansion Tax!

[The UK in Exile]

Arch, would you be able to politely ask people on the OP to only vote on the poll if they're actually British? That way we can form a good view of what NS' British population would do.

Who cares?

They're only slightly more representative than the Cabinet.