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Postby Xsyne » Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:59 pm

http://www.kvoa.com/global/story.asp?s=10526106

Two of three people arrested in a southern Arizona home invasion that left a little girl and her father dead had connections to a Washington state anti-illegal immigration group that conducts border watch activities in Arizona.

Jason Eugene Bush, 34, Shawna Forde, 41, and Albert Robert Gaxiola, 42, have been charged with two counts each of first-degree murder and other charges, said Sheriff Clarence Dupnik of Pima County, Ariz.

The trio are alleged to have dressed as law enforcement officers and forced their way into a home about 10 miles north of the Mexican border in rural Arivaca on May 30, wounding a woman and fatally shooting her husband and their 9-year-old daughter.

Their motive was financial, Dupnik said.

"The husband who was murdered has a history of being involved in narcotics and there was an anticipation that there would be a considerable amount of cash at this location as well as the possibility of drugs," Dupnik said.

Forde is the leader of Minutemen American Defense, a small border watch group, and Bush goes by the nickname "Gunny" and is its operations director, according to the group's Web site.

She is from Everett, Wash., has recently been living in Arizona and was once associated with the better known and larger Minuteman Civil Defense Corps.

A statement attributed to officers of Forde's group and posted on its Web site on Saturday extended condolences to the victims' families and said the group doesn't condone such acts and will cooperate with law enforcement.

"This is not what Minutemen do," said member Chuck Stonex, who responded to an e-mail from The Associated Press sent through the Web site. "Minutemen observe, document and report. This is nothing more than a cold-hearted criminal act, and that is all we want to say."

The assailants planned to leave no one alive, Dupnik said at a press conference in Tucson on Friday. He said Forde was the ringleader.

"This was a planned home invasion where the plan was to kill all the people inside this trailer so there would be no witnesses," Dupnik said. "To just kill a 9-year-old girl because she might be a potential witness to me is just one of the most despicable acts that I have heard of."

Dupnik said Forde continued working through Friday to raise a large amount of money to make her anti-illegal immigrant operation more sophisticated.

Forde denied involvement as she was led from sheriff's headquarters.

"No, I did not do it," she said. "I had nothing to do with it."

Gaxiola also denied involvement; Bush was arrested at a Kingman, Ariz., hospital where he was being treated for a leg wound he allegedly received when the woman who survived the attack managed to get a gun and fire back.

Killed were 9-year-old Brisenia Flores and her 29-year-old father, Raul Junior Flores. The name of the wounded woman who survived the attack hasn't been released.

Forde is well known in the anti-illegal immigration community, said Brian Levin, director of the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at California State University-San Bernardino.

"She's someone who even within the anti-immigration movement has been labeled as unstable," Levin said. "She was basically forced out of another anti-immigrant group, the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, and then founded her own organization."

Stonex, of Alamagordo, N.M., said he met Forde while on an Arizona border watch operation last fall, and liked her despite her reputation in the Minutemen community.

"I know she's always had sort of a checkered past but I take people for what I see and not what I hear," the 57-year-old said.

She recruited him to start a new chapter in New Mexico, but was secretive about her group or its members.

Stonex said he didn't know how to recruit for a chapter and never did.

He said Forde called him on the day of the attack while he was visiting Arizona and asked him to bring bandages to an Arivaca home because Bush had been wounded.

Stonex said it appeared Bush had a relatively minor gunshot wound, which he treated.

He said Forde and Bush told him Bush been wounded by a smuggler who shot at him while the group were patrolling the desert.

Stonex said he didn't suspect that might not be the case until was contacted by a deputy on Saturday about their alleged involvement in the crime.


"Minutemen" refer to a number of armed vigilante groups who patrol the U.S.-Mexico border. They've been accused of murdering immigrants near the border, and have been labeled hate groups by just about everyone who keeps a list of hate groups. Interestingly enough, the DHS warned about anti-immigration violence in that much maligned report.
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Postby Yootopia » Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:59 pm

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Postby Scarsaw » Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:03 pm

How tragic, but what can be expected when civilians decide to take the law into their own hands without proper training and foolish ideals. I think the Minuteman project should be shut down by the government, not simply because of this incident, but because we do not need vigilantes running around 'protecting' the Mexico/US boarder.
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Postby Hammurab » Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:05 pm

Holy crap....how shuffled does your deck have to be when you're considered too "unstable" for the usual minutemen groups, and they toss you out...
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Postby Naughty Bits » Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:05 pm

Xsyne wrote:http://www.kvoa.com/global/story.asp?s=10526106

Two of three people arrested in a southern Arizona home invasion that left a little girl and her father dead had connections to a Washington state anti-illegal immigration group that conducts border watch activities in Arizona.

Jason Eugene Bush, 34, Shawna Forde, 41, and Albert Robert Gaxiola, 42, have been charged with two counts each of first-degree murder and other charges, said Sheriff Clarence Dupnik of Pima County, Ariz.

The trio are alleged to have dressed as law enforcement officers and forced their way into a home about 10 miles north of the Mexican border in rural Arivaca on May 30, wounding a woman and fatally shooting her husband and their 9-year-old daughter.

Their motive was financial, Dupnik said.

"The husband who was murdered has a history of being involved in narcotics and there was an anticipation that there would be a considerable amount of cash at this location as well as the possibility of drugs," Dupnik said.

Forde is the leader of Minutemen American Defense, a small border watch group, and Bush goes by the nickname "Gunny" and is its operations director, according to the group's Web site.

She is from Everett, Wash., has recently been living in Arizona and was once associated with the better known and larger Minuteman Civil Defense Corps.

A statement attributed to officers of Forde's group and posted on its Web site on Saturday extended condolences to the victims' families and said the group doesn't condone such acts and will cooperate with law enforcement.

"This is not what Minutemen do," said member Chuck Stonex, who responded to an e-mail from The Associated Press sent through the Web site. "Minutemen observe, document and report. This is nothing more than a cold-hearted criminal act, and that is all we want to say."

The assailants planned to leave no one alive, Dupnik said at a press conference in Tucson on Friday. He said Forde was the ringleader.

"This was a planned home invasion where the plan was to kill all the people inside this trailer so there would be no witnesses," Dupnik said. "To just kill a 9-year-old girl because she might be a potential witness to me is just one of the most despicable acts that I have heard of."

Dupnik said Forde continued working through Friday to raise a large amount of money to make her anti-illegal immigrant operation more sophisticated.

Forde denied involvement as she was led from sheriff's headquarters.

"No, I did not do it," she said. "I had nothing to do with it."

Gaxiola also denied involvement; Bush was arrested at a Kingman, Ariz., hospital where he was being treated for a leg wound he allegedly received when the woman who survived the attack managed to get a gun and fire back.

Killed were 9-year-old Brisenia Flores and her 29-year-old father, Raul Junior Flores. The name of the wounded woman who survived the attack hasn't been released.

Forde is well known in the anti-illegal immigration community, said Brian Levin, director of the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at California State University-San Bernardino.

"She's someone who even within the anti-immigration movement has been labeled as unstable," Levin said. "She was basically forced out of another anti-immigrant group, the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, and then founded her own organization."

Stonex, of Alamagordo, N.M., said he met Forde while on an Arizona border watch operation last fall, and liked her despite her reputation in the Minutemen community.

"I know she's always had sort of a checkered past but I take people for what I see and not what I hear," the 57-year-old said.

She recruited him to start a new chapter in New Mexico, but was secretive about her group or its members.

Stonex said he didn't know how to recruit for a chapter and never did.

He said Forde called him on the day of the attack while he was visiting Arizona and asked him to bring bandages to an Arivaca home because Bush had been wounded.

Stonex said it appeared Bush had a relatively minor gunshot wound, which he treated.

He said Forde and Bush told him Bush been wounded by a smuggler who shot at him while the group were patrolling the desert.

Stonex said he didn't suspect that might not be the case until was contacted by a deputy on Saturday about their alleged involvement in the crime.


"Minutemen" refer to a number of armed vigilante groups who patrol the U.S.-Mexico border. They've been accused of murdering immigrants near the border, and have been labeled hate groups by just about everyone who keeps a list of hate groups. Interestingly enough, the DHS warned about anti-immigration violence in that much maligned report.

Bolding mine.

Sounds like the Minutemen didn't want anything to do with her and she went off on her own.

Condolences to the victim's families... :(

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Postby Naughty Bits » Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:05 pm

Hammurab wrote:Holy crap....how shuffled does your deck have to be when you're considered too "unstable" for the usual minutemen groups, and they toss you out...

she's playing with all 52 cards.

unfortunately they're all jokers.

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Postby Maineiacs » Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:06 pm

Watch these vigilantes (translation: criminals) becomes heroes and an anti-government rallying point. >:(
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Postby Galloism » Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:07 pm

Hammurab wrote:Holy crap....how shuffled does your deck have to be when you're considered too "unstable" for the usual minutemen groups, and they toss you out...

QFT
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Postby Maurepas » Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:09 pm

Is it weird that the OP made me think of this?
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Postby Velkya » Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:09 pm

unfortunately they're all jokers.


That'd have to be a fun game of poker, eh?
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Maurepas wrote:Is it weird that the OP made me think of this?
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No. Not weird at all. Very apropos.
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Postby Naughty Bits » Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:10 pm

Velkya wrote:
unfortunately they're all jokers.


That'd have to be a fun game of poker, eh?

yep..

the Hoyle's Rules card is wild. :lol:

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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:10 pm

Galloism wrote:
Hammurab wrote:Holy crap....how shuffled does your deck have to be when you're considered too "unstable" for the usual minutemen groups, and they toss you out...

QFT

I was reading The Taking of Pelham One Two Three last night and one of the subway highjackers was described as a guy who'd been fired by the Mafia for being too violent. This reminds me of that.
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Maurepas wrote:Is it weird that the OP made me think of this?
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Postby Ferrous Oxide » Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:12 pm

So basically, this has nothing to do to with the Minutemen, and you just wanted an excuse to trash them?

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Postby Naughty Bits » Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:14 pm

Farnhamia wrote:I was reading The Taking of Pelham One Two Three last night and one of the subway highjackers was described as a guy who'd been fired by the Mafia for being too violent. This reminds me of that.

I watched the original last night... I remember that line being in there somewhere...

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Postby Brogavia » Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:17 pm

Ferrous Oxide wrote:So basically, this has nothing to do to with the Minutemen, and you just wanted an excuse to trash them?


Pretty much ya.
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Postby Hammurab » Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:20 pm

This wouldn't have happened with Agent Graves was in still in charge.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:20 pm

Naughty Bits wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:I was reading The Taking of Pelham One Two Three last night and one of the subway highjackers was described as a guy who'd been fired by the Mafia for being too violent. This reminds me of that.

I watched the original last night... I remember that line being in there somewhere...

I watched it, too, which is what prompted me to dig the book out.
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Postby The_pantless_hero » Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:21 pm

Yeah, no one saw this coming :roll:
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Postby Xsyne » Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:24 pm

Ferrous Oxide wrote:So basically, this has nothing to do to with the Minutemen, and you just wanted an excuse to trash them?

Read the article. Specifically the bit where it says she's the leader of one of the groups known as the Minutemen.
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Ferrous Oxide wrote:So basically, this has nothing to do to with the Minutemen, and you just wanted an excuse to trash them?

Sounds about right to me.
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Postby Naughty Bits » Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:25 pm

Xsyne wrote:
Ferrous Oxide wrote:So basically, this has nothing to do to with the Minutemen, and you just wanted an excuse to trash them?

Read the article. Specifically the bit where it says she's the leader of one of the groups known as the Minutemen.

read the bolded part of my first post.

She was kicked out of the Minutemen group and went off on her own and formed her OWN ORGANIZATION. ;)
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Postby The Romulan Republic » Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:34 pm

Maineiacs wrote:Watch these vigilantes (translation: criminals) becomes heroes and an anti-government rallying point. >:(


Yeah, they'll be heroic patriots being arrested by the Socialist tyranny of Obama for "defending America" or something, mark my words. >:(
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:40 pm

The Romulan Republic wrote:
Maineiacs wrote:Watch these vigilantes (translation: criminals) becomes heroes and an anti-government rallying point. >:(


Yeah, they'll be heroic patriots being arrested by the Socialist tyranny of Obama for "defending America" or something, mark my words. >:(

Defending us? "The trio are alleged to have dressed as law enforcement officers and forced their way into a home about 10 miles north of the Mexican border in rural Arivaca on May 30, wounding a woman and fatally shooting her husband and their 9-year-old daughter." In order steal money from a drug-dealer. Patriots, uh huh.
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