I'm gay, so my child must be as well.

[Christainville]

First off my source.
http://tablet.washingtonpost.com/top/im ... story.html

Now, here is a general description.

This mother, who happens to be gay, wants her child to be as well. Her daughter is 6, and in play her mothers try's to enforce a acceptance of gay relationships. For a example, when her daughter played with toys, using one as a mother, and one as a father; her mother enforced that there can be 2 dads, and 2 moms. In her own words, "Time will tell, but so far, it doesn’t look like my 6-year-old daughter is gay. In fact, she’s boy crazy. It seems early to me, but I’m trying to be supportive.". So, the child already has shown her more straight leanings in the mother eyes, and to the mother, its hurts. Her daughter is straight and not gay, but no matter the mother says she will be supportive.

My View

Forcing your child to be something because you are is bad, and that goes for both straight and gay viewpoints. 1st off, a 6 year old making a sexuality is dumb as it is, they want to play, have fun with friends; not decide who they love the most and be with 14 years from now. This mother will drive the girl insane because one day she will have to decide rather her love for her mother makes her do things, or her own desires may hurt her mom, who she loves. One thing I wish more gay sides would open up too, every child is built to love both sexes already. You can love a parents, which are male and female, or you love a brother or sister. We all have had relationships with people of both sexes in one way or another, so we need to stop forcing kids to accept something they already have.

Second, its bad when a parent has issues that their child is gay, but its no issue when you raise a child to be gay. Its not abusive to force your child to be something unless what you want is against the current political viewpoint of the time. Its sad how much of our private lives are controlled by public views.

My third and final point, a six year old already getting into dating........and then we talk about teen pregnancy. Already this mother has put her daughter in a spot she is too young for and doesn't understand. we have turned being playful and having friends, into already picking marriages and this will drive anyone mad.

So, tell me what you think. Is it good or bad, abusive-non abusive, crazy or just being a parent, that this mother wants her child to be gay, because she is, and bit by bit its tying to learn her child to that side, before the kid even knows what sexuality is?

[Iwassoclose]

The iron knee.

[New Stephania]

She's a very silly person and she's already quickly finding out what many straight parents are finding out: Being gay is not a choice.

Ultimately childhood is about investigating and learning, it's best not to hamper that process unless something is actually wrong.

[Seierus]

When else would she start going on about it? When she's teen, she'd probably just be too busy with Instagram (or whatever they will use then), and as an adult, I think she'd already decided on her sexuality.

[Laanvia]

What a bigot...

[Conserative Morality]

"Parents want their children to be like them, non-homophobes oppose heteronormativity, Pope is indeed Catholic"

[Christainville]

sorry about the title being spelled wrong, I just noticed the error.

[Val Halla]

I feel the same way about this as I would parents trying to force their child to be anything. Bad.

[The United Colonies of Earth]

First off my source.
http://tablet.washingtonpost.com/top/im ... story.html

Now, here is a general description.

This mother, who happens to be gay, wants her child to be as well. Her daughter is 6, and in play her mothers try's to enforce a acceptance of gay relationships. For a example, when her daughter played with toys, using one as a mother, and one as a father; her mother enforced that there can be 2 dads, and 2 moms. In her own words, "Time will tell, but so far, it doesn’t look like my 6-year-old daughter is gay. In fact, she’s boy crazy. It seems early to me, but I’m trying to be supportive.". So, the child already has shown her more straight leanings in the mother eyes, and to the mother, its hurts. Her daughter is straight and not gay, but no matter the mother says she will be supportive.

My View

Forcing your child to be something because you are is bad, and that goes for both straight and gay viewpoints. 1st off, a 6 year old making a sexuality is dumb as it is, they want to play, have fun with friends; not decide who they love the most and be with 14 years from now. This mother will drive the girl insane because one day she will have to decide rather her love for her mother makes her do things, or her own desires may hurt her mom, who she loves. One thing I wish more gay sides would open up too, every child is built to love both sexes already. You can love a parents, which are male and female, or you love a brother or sister. We all have had relationships with people of both sexes in one way or another, so we need to stop forcing kids to accept something they already have.

Second, its bad when a parent has issues that their child is gay, but its no issue when you raise a child to be gay. Its not abusive to force your child to be something unless what you want is against the current political viewpoint of the time. Its sad how much of our private lives are controlled by public views.

My third and final point, a six year old already getting into dating........and then we talk about teen pregnancy. Already this mother has put her daughter in a spot she is too young for and doesn't understand. we have turned being playful and having friends, into already picking marriages and this will drive anyone mad.

So, tell me what you think. Is it good or bad, abusive-non abusive, crazy or just being a parent, that this mother wants her child to be gay, because she is, and bit by bit its tying to learn her child to that side, before the kid even knows what sexuality is?

This is just reparative therapy for the...
oh wait. I read the article. She was saying, indirectly, that she wants her daughter to be herself and not be conditioned by societal pressure.

[Zalavk]

Homophobia will drag our planet back into times of hate, intolerance and suffering. Since the legalization of homosexuality in many western nations, people have accepted that equality for homosexuals is the best options.

[Christainville]

First off my source.
http://tablet.washingtonpost.com/top/im ... story.html

Now, here is a general description.

This mother, who happens to be gay, wants her child to be as well. Her daughter is 6, and in play her mothers try's to enforce a acceptance of gay relationships. For a example, when her daughter played with toys, using one as a mother, and one as a father; her mother enforced that there can be 2 dads, and 2 moms. In her own words, "Time will tell, but so far, it doesn’t look like my 6-year-old daughter is gay. In fact, she’s boy crazy. It seems early to me, but I’m trying to be supportive.". So, the child already has shown her more straight leanings in the mother eyes, and to the mother, its hurts. Her daughter is straight and not gay, but no matter the mother says she will be supportive.

My View

Forcing your child to be something because you are is bad, and that goes for both straight and gay viewpoints. 1st off, a 6 year old making a sexuality is dumb as it is, they want to play, have fun with friends; not decide who they love the most and be with 14 years from now. This mother will drive the girl insane because one day she will have to decide rather her love for her mother makes her do things, or her own desires may hurt her mom, who she loves. One thing I wish more gay sides would open up too, every child is built to love both sexes already. You can love a parents, which are male and female, or you love a brother or sister. We all have had relationships with people of both sexes in one way or another, so we need to stop forcing kids to accept something they already have.

Second, its bad when a parent has issues that their child is gay, but its no issue when you raise a child to be gay. Its not abusive to force your child to be something unless what you want is against the current political viewpoint of the time. Its sad how much of our private lives are controlled by public views.

My third and final point, a six year old already getting into dating........and then we talk about teen pregnancy. Already this mother has put her daughter in a spot she is too young for and doesn't understand. we have turned being playful and having friends, into already picking marriages and this will drive anyone mad.

So, tell me what you think. Is it good or bad, abusive-non abusive, crazy or just being a parent, that this mother wants her child to be gay, because she is, and bit by bit its tying to learn her child to that side, before the kid even knows what sexuality is?

This is just reparative therapy for the...
oh wait. I read the article. She was saying, indirectly, that she wants her daughter to be herself and not be conditioned by societal pressure.

she did say that, but it was overloaded with her being gay. I think she only said, she wanted her daughter to be happy and all to avoid more of a backlash then she already got.

[Christainville]

Homophobia will drag our planet back into times of hate, intolerance and suffering. Since the legalization of homosexuality in many western nations, people have accepted that equality for homosexuals is the best options.

to be honest, its the worst thing that happened. Now, private sexuality and relationships are a political topic, and politically controlled, so the war only started, because now people feel like they were forced to accept something they didn't even deal with. It should have been a public referendum in my book that way all get their voices heard, and all get a chance to come to the table. I am sure some would say the votes were fixed depending on the outcome, but its something the public is, and the public deals with, its always been gay people with us. I work with several daily and am good friends with them, and they hate all the gay rights support because it made their private lives and feelings political.

[New Strausberg]

This is bad, no matter what you shouldn't force anything on your child. let the child decided not to mention she's only 6.

[Stagnant Axon Terminal]

Am I the only one who felt that the article was more about the mother feeling unsure how to handle a hetero child and feeling awkward than it was about her actually wanting to make her daughter gay? I saw it as mostly like, "I just realized that I don't have these experiences and I am uncomfortable, where I wouldn't be if she were gay, so I wish she would be" and not so much "I want to turn my daughter into a raging roller-derby-lesbian."

[Digital Planets]

I’m gay.

That's nice.

And I want my kid to be gay, too.

No, you don't. You want your kid to be an asshole, just like you.

[Christainville]

Am I the only one who felt that the article was more about the mother feeling unsure how to handle a hetero child and feeling awkward than it was about her actually wanting to make her daughter gay? I saw it as mostly like, "I just realized that I don't have these experiences and I am uncomfortable, where I wouldn't be if she were gay, so I wish she would be" and not so much "I want to turn my daughter into a raging roller-derby-lesbian."

yes, I saw that, see it everyday. When its a hetero-parent to a gay child its called homophobia, unless the parent changes their whole life.

[New Stephania]

Am I the only one who felt that the article was more about the mother feeling unsure how to handle a hetero child and feeling awkward than it was about her actually wanting to make her daughter gay? I saw it as mostly like, "I just realized that I don't have these experiences and I am uncomfortable, where I wouldn't be if she were gay, so I wish she would be" and not so much "I want to turn my daughter into a raging roller-derby-lesbian."

As an LGBT person I feel it's more about a gay mother who takes her identity politics far too seriously. At the end of the article she says she'll support her daughter even if she turns out straight as if she's settling for it and it's not really good enough, many in the LGBT community would rightfully question this if the shoe were on the other foot.

[Christainville]

I’m gay.

That's nice.

And I want my kid to be gay, too.

No, you don't. You want your kid to be an asshole, just like you.

a bit rough in my eyes, but that could get the main point of it.

[Dakini]

I'm not sure what the OP is upset about, exactly. While this woman says she wishes her kid were gay, she's also adamant about accepting her if she's not.

Forcing your child to be something because you are is bad, and that goes for both straight and gay viewpoints. 1st off, a 6 year old making a sexuality is dumb as it is, they want to play, have fun with friends; not decide who they love the most and be with 14 years from now.

Small children definitely tend to have sexual orientations, even if they don't generally think about their crushes in a sexy way, they still form crushes. That's pretty normal.

This mother will drive the girl insane because one day she will have to decide rather her love for her mother makes her do things, or her own desires may hurt her mom, who she loves.

Except that her mother has repeatedly indicated that she will be happy for her kid either way.

One thing I wish more gay sides would open up too, every child is built to love both sexes already. You can love a parents, which are male and female, or you love a brother or sister. We all have had relationships with people of both sexes in one way or another, so we need to stop forcing kids to accept something they already have.

Loving your parents is different from romantically loving someone. I'm not sure if I have to explain this any more than that, but it totally is.

From what I understand, most people don't develop romantic crushes on members of both/all genders. Those who do are probably bi/pan.

Second, its bad when a parent has issues that their child is gay, but its no issue when you raise a child to be gay.

You can't raise a child to be gay. You can raise a child that isn't a bigot, but that's not the same.

Its not abusive to force your child to be something unless what you want is against the current political viewpoint of the time. Its sad how much of our private lives are controlled by public views.

What is this, I don't even.

My third and final point, a six year old already getting into dating........and then we talk about teen pregnancy. Already this mother has put her daughter in a spot she is too young for and doesn't understand. we have turned being playful and having friends, into already picking marriages and this will drive anyone mad.

Uh, I'm pretty sure that to six year olds, dating involves sitting together at recess and shit. Maybe some hand-holding (probably not). Nobody's getting pregnant from that.

So, tell me what you think. Is it good or bad, abusive-non abusive, crazy or just being a parent, that this mother wants her child to be gay, because she is, and bit by bit its tying to learn her child to that side, before the kid even knows what sexuality is?

I don't know what you mean by "trying to learn her child to that side". You can't teach a kid to be gay or straight or bi or anything like that. Sexual orientation just doesn't work that way.

From what she wrote in the article, there doesn't really seem to be much wrong with this woman's parenting style. You're just getting upset over... I don't know really.

[Estenia]

I just don't feel it proper. If you're a gay parent let the years flow and the child will have a sexuality, but most children with gay parents tend to be more straight.

[Stagnant Axon Terminal]

Am I the only one who felt that the article was more about the mother feeling unsure how to handle a hetero child and feeling awkward than it was about her actually wanting to make her daughter gay? I saw it as mostly like, "I just realized that I don't have these experiences and I am uncomfortable, where I wouldn't be if she were gay, so I wish she would be" and not so much "I want to turn my daughter into a raging roller-derby-lesbian."

yes, I saw that, see it everyday. When its a hetero-parent to a gay child its called homophobia, unless the parent changes their whole life.

No, it's fucking not. I'm talking about the mother being supportive but not having the experience or knowledge to understand what her daughter's mind is like or how to help her through life. Being uncomfortable isn't the same fucking thing as hatred or fear.

[New Stephania]

I'm not sure what the OP is upset about, exactly. While this woman says she wishes her kid were gay, she's also adamant about accepting her if she's not.

I don't presume to speak for the OP, but I think what stood out for them was the likelihood of this woman being labelled homophobic if it were the other way around.

[Dakini]

Am I the only one who felt that the article was more about the mother feeling unsure how to handle a hetero child and feeling awkward than it was about her actually wanting to make her daughter gay? I saw it as mostly like, "I just realized that I don't have these experiences and I am uncomfortable, where I wouldn't be if she were gay, so I wish she would be" and not so much "I want to turn my daughter into a raging roller-derby-lesbian."

No, that's pretty much what the article is. Someone's turning molehills into mountains.

[Dragvania]

Personally I'm offended by the nature of the treatment. Kids ARE humans and if you can't let them be free and develop into who they want you are no better than a crazy dictator trying to make a "Master race" minus all the genocide of course.

My brother has tried to make me a "Family man" for years but i grew to hate him because of it. I want to be ME not some copy if someone else or what someone else thinks is right for me. I personally think the mother is wrong here, she shouldn't control the development and as much as she may hate it her child might end up the exact opposite of her but does that really matter? I live in a sports loving family that watch movies, go to church, and play outside sports yet even with this influence i turned out to not care about sports at all, I like gaming and creating things and i am the first person in my family to seek a career in IT period. That's just who I am and I hate my brother for not accepting it.

In the end all these arguments are stupid. It should not take more than 2 minutes to understand that in forcing someone to do something you destroy the very freedom that let you be you! Can you really live like that, and after all your effort it usually backfires and (like me) can get the kid to resent you for it.

I can't speak for everyone but if my brother would just be happy for me being a programmer and not a sports fan, I would love him but he forces these stereo types on me ruining our relationship.

Life is short, just be you based on who YOU want to be because if you don't you are not really alive. You are just another trained pet or programmed computer!

[Stagnant Axon Terminal]

Am I the only one who felt that the article was more about the mother feeling unsure how to handle a hetero child and feeling awkward than it was about her actually wanting to make her daughter gay? I saw it as mostly like, "I just realized that I don't have these experiences and I am uncomfortable, where I wouldn't be if she were gay, so I wish she would be" and not so much "I want to turn my daughter into a raging roller-derby-lesbian."

No, that's pretty much what the article is. Someone's turning molehills into mountains.

Quick, everybody, scream "HETEROPHOBIA" or some related nonsense at the camera!