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Postby Nebalon » Sun Feb 08, 2015 4:34 pm

United Russian Soviet States wrote:They are doing an okay job. They do all they can to maintain the peace. Peace is almost impossible to maintain. The UN does their duty. I only have some problems with the UN. I don't like how they want to force children to go to school.


If peace is impossible to maintain, why waste money? Instead of wasting valuable time and resources delaying the inevitable, wars should be allowed to play out, victors will emerge, and wars will end. As much as world peace is a great idea, it's an idealistic one, and not one that's going to ever happen (and besides, war is good for the economy; arms trade). The UN has demonstrated that this is an impossible goal for decades, and it's just an abject failure in every way.
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Postby Esceen » Sun Feb 08, 2015 4:58 pm

Nebalon wrote:
United Russian Soviet States wrote:They are doing an okay job. They do all they can to maintain the peace. Peace is almost impossible to maintain. The UN does their duty. I only have some problems with the UN. I don't like how they want to force children to go to school.


If peace is impossible to maintain, why waste money? Instead of wasting valuable time and resources delaying the inevitable, wars should be allowed to play out, victors will emerge, and wars will end. As much as world peace is a great idea, it's an idealistic one, and not one that's going to ever happen (and besides, war is good for the economy; arms trade). The UN has demonstrated that this is an impossible goal for decades, and it's just an abject failure in every way.

Most technological advancements are made in war time anyway.

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Postby United Russian Soviet States » Sun Feb 08, 2015 8:24 pm

Nebalon wrote:
United Russian Soviet States wrote:They are doing an okay job. They do all they can to maintain the peace. Peace is almost impossible to maintain. The UN does their duty. I only have some problems with the UN. I don't like how they want to force children to go to school.


If peace is impossible to maintain, why waste money? Instead of wasting valuable time and resources delaying the inevitable, wars should be allowed to play out, victors will emerge, and wars will end. As much as world peace is a great idea, it's an idealistic one, and not one that's going to ever happen (and besides, war is good for the economy; arms trade). The UN has demonstrated that this is an impossible goal for decades, and it's just an abject failure in every way.

You can always try to maintain the peace.
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Postby Norstal » Sun Feb 08, 2015 8:25 pm

Nebalon wrote:
United Russian Soviet States wrote:They are doing an okay job. They do all they can to maintain the peace. Peace is almost impossible to maintain. The UN does their duty. I only have some problems with the UN. I don't like how they want to force children to go to school.


If peace is impossible to maintain, why waste money? Instead of wasting valuable time and resources delaying the inevitable, wars should be allowed to play out, victors will emerge, and wars will end. As much as world peace is a great idea, it's an idealistic one, and not one that's going to ever happen (and besides, war is good for the economy; arms trade). The UN has demonstrated that this is an impossible goal for decades, and it's just an abject failure in every way.

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Postby The Conez Imperium » Sun Feb 08, 2015 11:12 pm

Nebalon wrote:
United Russian Soviet States wrote:They are doing an okay job. They do all they can to maintain the peace. Peace is almost impossible to maintain. The UN does their duty. I only have some problems with the UN. I don't like how they want to force children to go to school.


If peace is impossible to maintain, why waste money? Instead of wasting valuable time and resources delaying the inevitable, wars should be allowed to play out, victors will emerge, and wars will end. As much as world peace is a great idea, it's an idealistic one, and not one that's going to ever happen (and besides, war is good for the economy; arms trade). The UN has demonstrated that this is an impossible goal for decades, and it's just an abject failure in every way.


Why bother with hospitals, I mean people are going to die anyway. There's no reason why we should be spending valuable money to help others.

Why bother giving birth, children are eventually going to die. There's no point wasting valuable time and effort to raise a child, only for you and it to die.

Also in some cases is not good for the economy. I find it rather ignorant to be able to say "Yeah I'm accept the death of Humans, but hey its good for the economy!"
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Postby Uawc » Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:53 am

Is the UN even funded enough to do a good job?
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Postby The Untied Federation of Russia » Mon Feb 09, 2015 4:55 pm

UAWC wrote:Is the UN even funded enough to do a good job?


Yes
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Postby Arcturus Novus » Mon Feb 09, 2015 4:58 pm

While I dislike the things that UN Peacekeepers are tasked with part of the time, I will say that the UN as a whole is doing a fairly decent job.
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Postby Gorbachevian USSR » Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:06 pm

The UN doesn't really do much besides hold meetings with other countries regarding their relations.

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Postby Ceyiastan » Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:09 pm

I like the U.N. but there's this one thing I hate about the U.N.

They are trying to police the world like America but it always fails if the U.N. will do something about ISIS and other Terrorist group we might have peace.

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Postby United Provinces of Swaziland » Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:16 pm

The UN is doing the most it can with the little real power it has; most of power is concentrated in the permanent members of the Security Council and they almost never reach a consensus instead choosing to use their almighty veto power as a weapon to cause even more inefficiency and irrelevance for the UN.
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Postby Scotabana » Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:16 pm

Ceyiastan wrote:I like the U.N. but there's this one thing I hate about the U.N.

They are trying to police the world like America but it always fails if the U.N. will do something about ISIS and other Terrorist group we might have peace.


I agree with you on the Middle East part the U.N. is really doing a bad job trying to stop terrorist from taking over.

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Postby Risottia » Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:26 pm

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Risottia wrote:Does this mean the whole world will have to pay for the Italian armed forces, thus easing my tax burden?

Hey Kremlinbot, calm down because NATO is the only organisation that acts in times where UN hides.

Dude, I pay the taxes supporting one of the NATO armies.Do you? And if you don't, why should your opinion, or your country's, matter about Nato? Pay for your own bloody army.
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Postby Scomagia » Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:46 pm

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Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:Well, the UNDHR is legally binding. The problem is not with the UN, but with national sovereignty as a whole. Countries can't be put on trial against their will, ...

That tantamounts to not being binding.
Take the ECHR instead: it's binding and the countries can and are put on trial against their will - if they refuse, they face expulsion from the CoE. The UN should do the same with the UNDHR, and institute an international Human Rights Court with powers to overrule any national ruling or law.

Follow this by removing the permanent Security Council members and I'd say we'd have a functional UN.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Mon Feb 09, 2015 6:33 pm

Relative to other organizations to the UN throughout history, yeah.

Overall, kinda.

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Risottia wrote:That tantamounts to not being binding.
Take the ECHR instead: it's binding and the countries can and are put on trial against their will - if they refuse, they face expulsion from the CoE. The UN should do the same with the UNDHR, and institute an international Human Rights Court with powers to overrule any national ruling or law.

Follow this by removing the permanent Security Council members and I'd say we'd have a functional UN.


On top of that, the SC's power needs to be reduced.
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Postby Norstal » Mon Feb 09, 2015 6:54 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Risottia wrote:That tantamounts to not being binding.
Take the ECHR instead: it's binding and the countries can and are put on trial against their will - if they refuse, they face expulsion from the CoE. The UN should do the same with the UNDHR, and institute an international Human Rights Court with powers to overrule any national ruling or law.

Follow this by removing the permanent Security Council members and I'd say we'd have a functional UN.

Tried that with the League of Nations.

Did not worked out as you can probably see.
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Postby New United States of Columbia » Mon Jul 27, 2015 1:32 pm

I say the U.S. should leave the U.N., The ICC, The IMF, and all other globalist agreements. The reason I say this is because they do not represent the U.S. and give equal representation to dictatorships. Also they are trying to become a global government and are infringing on our sovereign rights as humans, not protecting them.
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Postby The Foxes Swamp » Mon Jul 27, 2015 8:39 pm

not really but the best it can considering all things
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Postby Povinksi » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:24 am

The UN isn't a peace-keeping organization. It's a puppet for the global elite. France, China, Russia, the UK, and The US. It seeks to further powerful nations interests and only theirs. Don't believe me? Look at Somalia-
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Somalia was a set-up to make G5+1 look good. They don't tend to listen to smaller nations views. And you think they keep peace? Their not doing a very good job of that. :lol:
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Postby The Greater Lebanon » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:38 am

The UN is useless as it has China and Russia mixed with France, UK and the US in the security council. However it tried very hard for what little good it does such as aid, education ect..

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Postby Ashworth-Attwater » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:39 am

As much as it might hurt the feelings of a few left-wing neocons (yes, these types exist around here) who think the UN should have the same powers as the EU, yes, they're doing a good job.
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Postby Povinksi » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:47 am

The UN could be doing a good job of mantaining world peace, if it wasn't for the ''Security Council'' Other than that, they are doing a good job of maintaining somewhat good education standards.
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Postby Waideland » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:50 am

The UN can't do a good job because it has no powers outside of what the G8 says they have. Without those nations, the UN is just a bunch of tinpot dictators, enviro-communist money grabbers, and nazis, giving angry speeches about why jews, christians, and capitalists are evil and must be killed or controlled. If the EU and US withdrew from the UN right now, most of the remaining countries would just officially join Warsaw Pact II, and ISIS, and not a damn thing would be different tomorrow other than that fancy glass building in NYC becoming Donald Trump's newest condo.

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Postby CTALNH » Tue Jul 28, 2015 7:24 am

Depends what you mean good job.


Facilitating debate between states? Sure its doing a decent job.

Keeping the peace and promoting human right? Fuck no.
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Postby Omega America II » Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:58 am

No
They are doing a horrible job. Just look at the world today, they are doing a terrible job.
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