Political renovation in Southern Europe: Spain.

[Valencian State]

After the controversial Greek elections, possible extrapolations have been raised with Spain, Portugal or Italy. Can a party like Syryiza win in Spain? Is Podemos a party like Syriza? - look the idiology os both parties. This year or next year, Mariano Rajoy would call for elections, and two new parties: Podemos (left) and Ciudadanos (center-left) are growning up, making farther and farther the possibility of returning to a bipartisan model.

Well, in this post I want to know your opinion and I encourage you to vote the party who believe that represents you - just for fun.

I add a brief dossier with the most important parties and their ideology. And I warn you that Spain is not Greece, we have more parties.

PP - VOX - UPN

PP - Partido Popular (Popular Party): Right Center, conservative liberalism, economic liberalism, social conservatism, Christian democracy, monarchism, Christian humanism, Europeanism, Spanish nationalism.

Vox: Right, conservative liberalism, economic liberalism, social conservatism, Europeanism, monarchism, Spanish nationalism.

UPN - Unión del Pueblo Navarro (Navarra People's Union): Center Right, conservatism, Christian democracy, foralism, navarrism.

PSOE

Partido Socialista Obrero Español (Spanish Socialist Workers Party): Center Left, liberalism, social democracy, secularism, federalism, third way, Europeanism.

UPyD

Unión, Progreso y Democracia (Union, Progrees and Democracy): Center, liberalism, social liberalism, secularism, reformism, centrism, constitutionalism, European federalism, transversalism, Spanish patriotism, Spanish nationalism.

C's

C's - Ciudadanos (Citizens): Center Left, liberalism, social liberalism, secularism, autonomism, constitutionalism, European federalism, antinationalism.

EQUO - Compromís

Equo: Left, ecologism liberalism, federalism.

(Inside Compromís Coalition) BLOC Nacionalista Valencià (Nationalist Valencian Block): BLOC: valencianism, progressive, left, ecosocialism.

(Inside Compromís Coalition) IdPV - Iniciativa del Poble Valencià (Valencian People Iniciative): Left, ecosocialism, valencianism.

(Inside Compromís Coalition) EV - Els Verds (the Greens): Left, liberalism, ecologism valencianism.

Podemos

Podemos (Yes we can): egalitarianism, participatory democracy, left, republicanism. Defined as a citizens assembly.

IU - EUiA

IU and EUiA - Izquierda Unida y Esquerra Unida i Alternativa (United Left and United Left and Alternative): Eurocomunism, socialism, republicanism.

IAb - Izquierda Abierta (Opened Left): Social Democracy, anti-capitalism, ecosocialism. (Integrated into United Left)

PCE - Partido Comunista de España (Spanish Communist Party): Eurocomunismo, revisionism, anti-capitalism. (Integrated into United Left)

PCC - Partits Comunistes de Catalunya (Catalonian Communist Parties): Communism, Marxism-Leninism, Catalan. (Integrated into EUiA)

Independentist/Regionalists left parties → ERC, BILDU, CUP, Amaiur, BNG, ICV, PRC, PA...

CUP: Far left, anti-capitalist, socialism, participatory democracy, feminism, Euroscepticism, Catalan independence, pancatalanism.

BNG, ERC, CHA, and Aralar: Left, nationalism, republicanism, socialism.

BILDU: Left-wing nationalism, socialism, independence, sovereignism, Basque nationalism.

Amaiur: Left-wing nationalism, socialism, independence, sovereignism, Basque nationalism.

ICV: Eco-socialism, republicanism, catalanism.

PRC: Centro, reformism, regionalism, cultural cantabrism, Spanish patriotism.

PA: Social Democracy, Republicanism, andalucism.

Independentists/Regionalists right parties → FAC, PNV, CiU, Coalición Canaria...

PNV: center-conservatism, economic liberalism, Christian democracy, reformism, sovereignism, Basque nationalism.

CiU: center-right neo-Christian democracy, the Catalan independence, Catalan nationalism.

CC: Centro, monarchism, canary nationalism.

FAC: Conservatism, Asturian Regional

[Quintium]

Many parts of Spain aren't actually Spanish. I'm all for Basque, Catalonian, and possibly Galician and Asturian regionalist and nationalist parties. In any case, being Dutch, I hope there's no Syriza-like party in Spain with any chance of coming to power, because we'd be losing even more money if that happened. I'm genuinely terrified of what the European Commission and the European Central Bank are going to do if Spain and Greece both start trying to retroactively change the terms of the enormous money and guarantees given to them by us.

[Baltenstein]

Podemos, venceremos!

[NeoColumbia]

Hopfully, so that can screw everything up like SYRIZA is going to to make way for the True voices of the nation like the Golden Dawn.

[Mike the Progressive]

We need to carpet bomb Spain until democracy there flourishes again.

And send the unemployed to Obama's FEMA Freedom Camps where they'll work and be free!

[Saiwania]

Is there a Golden Dawn equivalent for Spain? I need a party that is fascist or at least Francoist.

[Securitan]

I can't believe people are voting for Bolivian style communism.

[Martean]

Is there a Golden Dawn equivalent for Spain? I need a party that is fascist or at least Francoist.

Eh... No

Far-right in Spain is completely irrelevant.

And maybe, that's the best thing.

And maybe that maybe shouldn't be there.

[The Lotophagi]

Hopfully, so that can screw everything up like SYRIZA is going to to make way for the True voices of the nation like the Golden Dawn.

Parties like Podemos are an an awful lot more popular than any of the rightist parties in Spain. I'd say that gives them the right to call themselves 'the voice of the people' or some such jazz, not some jumped-up bunch of football hooligans.

I can't believe people are voting for Bolivian style communism.

People in Bolivia voted for 'Bolivian-style communism'. Why is it so surprising that it would happen elsewhere?

[Insaeldor]

It's sad that in many of these nations hit hardest my the global recession of 2008 have to have really only two fairly radical choices in elections. I'd happily vote for more parties like C's in Spain, Potima in Greece, Liberal Democrats in the UK, and the Democratic Movement in France but they aren't leadership parties. In some states the far-left have shown an aptitude for leadership positions while in others the far-right seem to have the answer to lackluster leadership.

I don't think (or know) that Spain is quite the same situation as Greece but I can definetly see Podemos winning a fair number of seats in the next election but I still think the PP/PSOE statues quo will still stand by the end of this upcoming election cycle.

[NeoColumbia]

Is there a Golden Dawn equivalent for Spain? I need a party that is fascist or at least Francoist.

Well there are cetainly a great many sympathizers but their is a great amount of division and lack of Organization,

Francoism itself is not much of an improvment, Francos Greatest accomplishment was keeping spain from falling in to Anarchy or to Communism, other than that he wasn't exactly a great leader.

A Revived Falange movement would be heartwarming but the remnants of the movement are divided and small, parially because some are to worried about be associate with the "EBUL NAZI" to actually take a stand on anything, but hopfully with Nationalism and Fascist movements rising in europe this will change.

If your Spanish make an effort to promote it, Great movements don't fall out of the sky they grow from the Ground up within the people.

also
Jose Antonio > Francisco Franco
Falangism>Francoism

[MERIZoC]

Well, given the almost obscene rate at which Podemos has grown in just a year, as well as inspiration that comes from the Syriza victory, I can definitely see them gaining a lot of power.

[Sebastianbourg]

I dunno. Normally, my relatives would vote for the PSOE but I might go for UPyD; I'm a fervent monarchist so Podemos doesn't really fit my criteria.

[Securitan]

I dunno. Normally, my relatives would vote for the PSOE but I might go for UPyD; I'm a fervent monarchist so Podemos doesn't really fit my criteria.

PSOE ruined Spain with wasted funds. UPyD would be better at least.

[Martean]

And now... time for FACTS.

First of all, When will the next Spanish general election be held?
-> It is projected to be during November-December of this year.
And... how are the parties polling?
-> Well, if you think Syriza's rise was 'quick' and 'sudden', I think you shouldn't look at this graph:

Yes, Syriza-like Podemos is polling over the conservatives is most polls, indeed, the only reason why they are not topping that graph it's because some conservative newspapers have been issuing some polls recently that put Podemos well below the average, yet, the trend is clear, in less than a year Podemos could win the general elections

Which parties are suffering more from the 'Podemos effect'?
-> According to polls, Podemos is gaining votes mainly from the Socialist Party, but also from the communist-dominated United Left, and from the social-liberals of UPyD. It has also mobilized many chronic abstentioners and people that voted the conservatives after having voted the Socialists (swing voters)

[Martean]

I dunno. Normally, my relatives would vote for the PSOE but I might go for UPyD; I'm a fervent monarchist so Podemos doesn't really fit my criteria.

Which constituency is yours?

[Geilinor]

I don't know, none of the choices appeal to me. UPyD seems interesting, but they aren't popular.

[Calimera II]

And now... time for FACTS.

First of all, When will the next Spanish general election be held?
-> It is projected to be during November-December of this year.
And... how are the parties polling?
-> Well, if you think Syriza's rise was 'quick' and 'sudden', I think you shouldn't look at this graph:

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Yes, Syriza-like Podemos is polling over the conservatives is most polls, indeed, the only reason why they are not topping that graph it's because some conservative newspapers have been issuing some polls recently that put Podemos well below the average, yet, the trend is clear, in less than a year Podemos could win the general elections

Which parties are suffering more from the 'Podemos effect'?
-> According to polls, Podemos is gaining votes mainly from the Socialist Party, but also from the communist-dominated United Left, and from the social-liberals of UPyD. It has also mobilized many chronic abstentioners and people that voted the conservatives after having voted the Socialists (swing voters)

Oh this is exiting.

[NeoColumbia]

I don't know, none of the choices appeal to me. UPyD seems interesting, but they aren't popular.

Isn't that more of a reason to support them?

[Sebastianbourg]

I dunno. Normally, my relatives would vote for the PSOE but I might go for UPyD; I'm a fervent monarchist so Podemos doesn't really fit my criteria.

Which constituency is yours?

Guipúzcoa or Donostia-San Sebastián to be precise.

[Sebastianbourg]

I don't know, none of the choices appeal to me. UPyD seems interesting, but they aren't popular.

Unfortunately.

[Securitan]

I don't know, none of the choices appeal to me. UPyD seems interesting, but they aren't popular.

Unfortunately.

If we go with Podemos, we go to shit.

[Martean]

Which constituency is yours?

Guipúzcoa or Donostia-San Sebastián to be precise.

You know UPyD it's not going to get a single seat there, you should probably vote PSOE.

Unfortunately.

If we go with Podemos, we go to shit.

Because we are so well-off right now

[Geilinor]

Guipúzcoa or Donostia-San Sebastián to be precise.

You know UPyD it's not going to get a single seat there, you should probably vote PSOE.

If we go with Podemos, we go to shit.

Because we are so well-off right now

PSOE screwed up big time.

[Calimera II]

Unfortunately.

If we go with Podemos, we go to shit.

You already 'went to shit': http://www.20minutos.es/noticia/2274416 ... il/unicef/