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Zrhajan
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Postby Zrhajan » Wed Nov 25, 2015 1:15 pm

New Visegrad wrote:
Zrhajan wrote:Well, the classmate I was discussing with had a different ridiculous idea, namely strapping two of the space shuttle crawlers together and affixing the Bismark on it. as ridiculous or more?

Is this a question you are seriously having trouble answering yourself?

I have my own opinion on what the answer is, I prefer knowing that other people agree, which people seem to.
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Postby New Visegrad » Wed Nov 25, 2015 1:23 pm

Zrhajan wrote:
New Visegrad wrote:Is this a question you are seriously having trouble answering yourself?

I have my own opinion on what the answer is, I prefer knowing that other people agree, which people seem to.

Whether this is stupid is decided by physics, not opinions. Physics says it's stupid.
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Postby Transvaal Vrystaat » Wed Nov 25, 2015 1:34 pm

Besides, why strap space shuttles to the Bismark when you can affix Saturn V's to an Iowa-class.

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Postby Zrhajan » Wed Nov 25, 2015 1:39 pm

Transvaal Vrystaat wrote:Besides, why strap space shuttles to the Bismark when you can affix Saturn V's to an Iowa-class.

It shall be known as Space Battleship Iowa

Not space shuttles, the things designed to carry space shuttles to the launchpad.
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Zrhajan wrote:I have my own opinion on what the answer is, I prefer knowing that other people agree, which people seem to.

Whether this is stupid is decided by physics, not opinions. Physics says it's stupid.

An excellent point.
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Purpelia
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Postby Purpelia » Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:22 pm

Hello everyone it's that time again! No, not that time.Image Seriously people. It's random question time.
In today's issue: Naming tanks.
What are your rules? Do your tank crews get to give unique names to their tanks? Are they strictly private or official and used in records? How are they allowed to if at all make their marks on the vehicle?



In the Purpelian army tank crews are expected to give their vehicle a personal name. This name can be virtually anything and is not censored or controlled in any way, shape or form. Once the name has been given the vehicle is from that point onward referred to in all administrative paperwork by said name. Historical tradition has it that in times of war or imminent war names can only be given to vehicles after they have seen combat. But now a days that is suspended. The name should be written either on the turret side or the gun.

OOC Note: In this the doctrine resembles the Soviet rules for naming tanks. Although they reserved naming for special vehicles and occasions.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Nov 25, 2015 4:31 pm

Ostensibly naming of tanks is controlled in the PSA. Really, it's down to a unit commander and some units are noted for lax tolerances.
Names painted on tanks, certainly, are not permitted to be obscene. Predictably, euphemisms often pass individual commanders' tolerances.

Per previous discussion, "Finger Trap" is a T-108 Tsar Davida battle tank somewhere.

As a question, was the naming of tanks a thing in the Soviet forces? Was it prohibited by regulation or simply just not done? Tanks were personalised in other manners, such as the Chechnya tank's skull. As we know from Allanea, painting of motifs on vehicles, mostly trucks, was common. Was this because they were not "forward" vehicles and it was figured no-one would care?
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Postby Purpelia » Wed Nov 25, 2015 4:40 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:As a question, was the naming of tanks a thing in the Soviet forces? Was it prohibited by regulation or simply just not done? Tanks were personalised in other manners, such as the Chechnya tank's skull. As we know from Allanea, painting of motifs on vehicles, mostly trucks, was common. Was this because they were not "forward" vehicles and it was figured no-one would care?

I only first heard of it from the article I linked to, so thats the complete sum of my knowledge of the subject.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Nov 25, 2015 4:49 pm

I did see it after I posted, but it deals with WWII. I imagine the later Soviet era may have changed.
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Postby Purpelia » Wed Nov 25, 2015 4:50 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:I did see it after I posted, but it deals with WWII. I imagine the later Soviet era may have changed.

I basically just decided that since that's my only source I am going to proclaim it a WWII era tradition that I kept going until today because why not. :D
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Korva
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Postby Korva » Wed Nov 25, 2015 4:51 pm

Korvan tankers on deployment and earning hazard pay can name their vehicles however they want, so long as text is kept to the barrel or turret side. In practice such decorations will be entirely covered by local foliage and camo netting.

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Postby EsToVnIa » Wed Nov 25, 2015 5:04 pm

Estovnian tankers are forbidden for defiling government property. If they're caught naming their tanks by painting names/symbols that aren't in the army handbook of allowable symbols, words, and phrases, then the cost to repaint the tank is deducted from the tank crew's total pay.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Nov 25, 2015 5:08 pm

Estovnia wrote:Estovnian tankers are forbidden for defiling government property. If they're caught naming their tanks by painting names/symbols that aren't in the army handbook of allowable symbols, words, and phrases, then the cost to repaint the tank is deducted from the tank crew's total pay.

Just put them on NJP and have them sandblast it, jeez.
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Fordorsia
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Postby Fordorsia » Wed Nov 25, 2015 5:13 pm

A tank can be named anything, and it would be in official records when the name is relevant (like when said tank does something notable or in pictures etc, but besides that the tanks are their official designations and nothing more.

The names of the two M43 Mobile Fortresses, one being the A1 model with the 200mm howitzer and the other being the A2 model with a 130mm gun, are called Apocalypse Rex and Big Iron. Everything these two do is notable and name-worthy because look at them.

Estovnia wrote:Estovnian tankers are forbidden for defiling government property. If they're caught naming their tanks by painting names/symbols that aren't in the army handbook of allowable symbols, words, and phrases, then the cost to repaint the tank is deducted from the tank crew's total pay.


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Transvaal Vrystaat
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Postby Transvaal Vrystaat » Wed Nov 25, 2015 5:17 pm

More like literally Purpellia.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Nov 25, 2015 5:33 pm

Transvaal Vrystaat wrote:More like literally Purpelia.

I half suspect it's the point.
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Postby Sevvania » Wed Nov 25, 2015 5:51 pm

Sevvanian tankers are permitted to name their vehicles (although I don't know much about military record-keeping, so I'm not sure if the names would be used "officially," but they would be used in communication with that particular tank). Small emblems, such as mascots or tallies, are also allowed.
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Radictistan
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Postby Radictistan » Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:00 pm

Naming vehicles reeks of espirit de corps and is therefore prohibited.

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Connori Pilgrims
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Postby Connori Pilgrims » Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:12 pm

The Connori Army doesn't mind naming or painting of its frontline combat vehicles - though anything that isn't official/regulation means they'd have to pay for their own paints.

Also, its close to the end now... new OP for next thread when?
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Postby EsToVnIa » Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:30 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Estovnia wrote:Estovnian tankers are forbidden for defiling government property. If they're caught naming their tanks by painting names/symbols that aren't in the army handbook of allowable symbols, words, and phrases, then the cost to repaint the tank is deducted from the tank crew's total pay.

Just put them on NJP and have them sandblast it, jeez.


that makes sense, therefore that is not done in estovnia
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Postby The Akasha Colony » Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:31 pm

Connori Pilgrims wrote:The Connori Army doesn't mind naming or painting of its frontline combat vehicles - though anything that isn't official/regulation means they'd have to pay for their own paints.

Also, its close to the end now... new OP for next thread when?


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Postby EsToVnIa » Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:33 pm

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Postby The Kievan People » Wed Nov 25, 2015 10:36 pm

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Postby New Vihenia » Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:03 am

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Postby Tangaliro » Thu Nov 26, 2015 5:42 am

What?
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