[MT] Pro-Gay Terrorists take over parts of Darlington County

[The New Sea Territory]

A warning to Burleson and Volkstrad: Your fruitless efforts to undermine one another accomplishes nothing but the grief and strife of a civilian population. If you both care about your own people (or civilians in general), you should not stand by, idly arguing with one another about OOC Communist doctrines.

I implore all to read this. Here are our terms for a TEMPORARY ceasefire. THIS REQUIRES THE PARTICIPATION OF ALL WHO ARE INVOLVED IN THIS CONFLICT.

HERE ARE OUR TERMS:

• If an agreement is reached that the USSR will harbor the International Court, you will release the prisoners into the custody of the USSR (governed not by the USSR but by international terms). If not, then further terms will be discussed.
• Nations will sign a doctrine of temporary ceasefire.
• A vote will ensue. All nations INVOLVED in the war shall vote on whether or not to accept the doctrine. INVOLVED is defined as having direct military impact upon the nation in question.
• Those who oppose will be noted, but if the doctrine is accepted, a permanent ceasefire will occur and we will discuss the close of the war. Those who then violate the rule of the majority (if a majority is met) are subject to the military intervention of signatories to the doctrine of ceasefire.

This does not apply to the NSTAI, as were are legally not a "nation". We will continue our operations in the area until all are liberated from state violence on Burleson's part, and LGBT individuals are given equal rights and fair treatment.

[Burleson 2]

A warning to Burleson and Volkstrad: Your fruitless efforts to undermine one another accomplishes nothing but the grief and strife of a civilian population. If you both care about your own people (or civilians in general), you should not stand by, idly arguing with one another about OOC Communist doctrines.

I implore all to read this. Here are our terms for a TEMPORARY ceasefire. THIS REQUIRES THE PARTICIPATION OF ALL WHO ARE INVOLVED IN THIS CONFLICT.

HERE ARE OUR TERMS:

• If an agreement is reached that the USSR will harbor the International Court, you will release the prisoners into the custody of the USSR (governed not by the USSR but by international terms). If not, then further terms will be discussed.
• Nations will sign a doctrine of temporary ceasefire.
• A vote will ensue. All nations INVOLVED in the war shall vote on whether or not to accept the doctrine. INVOLVED is defined as having direct military impact upon the nation in question.
• Those who oppose will be noted, but if the doctrine is accepted, a permanent ceasefire will occur and we will discuss the close of the war. Those who then violate the rule of the majority (if a majority is met) are subject to the military intervention of signatories to the doctrine of ceasefire.

This does not apply to the NSTAI, as were are legally not a "nation". We will continue our operations in the area until all are liberated from state violence on Burleson's part, and LGBT individuals are given equal rights and fair treatment.

Are you really stupid enough to have countless people, on your side and mine, killed over a few hundred people not being able to have sex... Either start applying logic to your military, or

get back on the short bus.

[The U S S R]

A warning to Burleson and Volkstrad: Your fruitless efforts to undermine one another accomplishes nothing but the grief and strife of a civilian population. If you both care about your own people (or civilians in general), you should not stand by, idly arguing with one another about OOC Communist doctrines.

I implore all to read this. Here are our terms for a TEMPORARY ceasefire. THIS REQUIRES THE PARTICIPATION OF ALL WHO ARE INVOLVED IN THIS CONFLICT.

HERE ARE OUR TERMS:

• If an agreement is reached that the USSR will harbor the International Court, you will release the prisoners into the custody of the USSR (governed not by the USSR but by international terms). If not, then further terms will be discussed.
• Nations will sign a doctrine of temporary ceasefire.
• A vote will ensue. All nations INVOLVED in the war shall vote on whether or not to accept the doctrine. INVOLVED is defined as having direct military impact upon the nation in question.
• Those who oppose will be noted, but if the doctrine is accepted, a permanent ceasefire will occur and we will discuss the close of the war. Those who then violate the rule of the majority (if a majority is met) are subject to the military intervention of signatories to the doctrine of ceasefire.

This does not apply to the NSTAI, as were are legally not a "nation". We will continue our operations in the area until all are liberated from state violence on Burleson's part, and LGBT individuals are given equal rights and fair treatment.

Nation, as in NATION-STATES--the name of this political simulator--is used in broad terms. Perhaps I should have specified ACCOUNT involved.

Please, try again.

AND: If you refuse to comply with that statement, then you will provide us with your mother country's doctrine of warfare, since, seemingly, a territory should not have the right to invade another without violating the laws of not only the international rules of warfare, but also the terms of the mother country.

We wish to speak to the mother nation on its position of war. If not, then you will also be tried in a separate account, for unlawful involvement in warfare.

Are you really stupid enough to have countless people, on your side and mine, killed over a few hundred people not being able to have sex... Either start applying logic to your military, or get back on the short bus.

We once again intervene as a neutral arbitrator. Your fighting words are not covered under this treaty. If YOU incite violence against YOURSELF, then we will not be a signatory any longer.

[Assorted Sucrose-Based Lifeforms]

I'm not writing a book here. And I should just kick you out for all your godmodding, nitpicking, and general being annoying.

OOC: Point it out to me, when did I godmod? When did I call your losses? When did I dictate your actions? When did I not give you a chance to react to my attacks? Because I can give examples of each for you.
As for nitpicking, if you're not RPing fairly, and you're not being consistent or realistic, whilst expecting 100% consistency and realism from everyone else, then I'm going to call you out on it, and on top of that, I'm going to call you out when you flat out refuse to mention your forces once they are attacked, ignoring the attack, and pretending as if it never happened.
And generally being annoying? We disagree about homosexuals, and I'm calling you out when you're not RPing to the same standard to which you hold others, that's about all the annoyance I'm attempting to cause.

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Are you really stupid enough to have countless people, on your side and mine, killed over a few hundred people not being able to have sex... Either start applying logic to your military, or

get back on the short bus.

Lol@flamebait
Just tagging posts, don't mind me.

[Communist Volkstrad]

Volkstrad's decision to participate hinges upon the decisions of Serrian and the NST.

Your decision is paired with that of ALL participating nations who WILLINGLY deployed MILITARY personnel into Burlesonian JURISDICTION.


I cannot stress this enough: The term "involved," per my proposal, means ALL participating nations who WILLINGLY deployed MILITARY personnel into Burlesonian JURISDICTION.

We may choose not to participate in the ceasefire, and continue to attack. Simple as that.
Our decision to even participate in the talks hinges upon the decision of our allies.

[The New Sea Territory]

This does not apply to the NSTAI, as were are legally not a "nation". We will continue our operations in the area until all are liberated from state violence on Burleson's part, and LGBT individuals are given equal rights and fair treatment.

Are you really stupid enough to have countless people, on your side and mine, killed over a few hundred people not being able to have sex... Either start applying logic to your military, or get back on the short bus.

The sovereignty of the individual is the cornerstone of freedom, and freedom is central to a civil society. Your violations of individual autonomy are detrimental to liberty in your region, and the NSTAI, along with our affiliated allies, are dedicated to the dismantling and destruction of systems, nations or entities that wish to continue to operate in a primitive way.

[The U S S R]

Your decision is paired with that of ALL participating nations who WILLINGLY deployed MILITARY personnel into Burlesonian JURISDICTION.


I cannot stress this enough: The term "involved," per my proposal, means ALL participating nations who WILLINGLY deployed MILITARY personnel into Burlesonian JURISDICTION.

We may choose not to participate in the ceasefire, and continue to attack. Simple as that.
Our decision to even participate in the talks hinges upon the decision of our allies.

That post was not necessarily directed towards you (at least, the second half of it); I was just throwing that out there because it was the most relevant post upon which I could tack that statement.

[Burleson 2]

I'm not writing a book here. And I should just kick you out for all your godmodding, nitpicking, and general being annoying.

Point it out to me, when did I godmod? When did I call your losses? When did I dictate your actions? When did I not give you a chance to react to my attacks? Because I can give examples of each for you.
As for nitpicking, if you're not RPing fairly, and you're not being consistent or realistic, whilst expecting 100% consistency and realism from everyone else, then I'm going to call you out on it, and on top of that, I'm going to call you out when you flat out refuse to mention your forces once they are attacked, ignoring the attack, and pretending as if it never happened.
And generally being annoying? We disagree about homosexuals, and I'm calling you out when you're not RPing to the same standard to which you hold others, that's about all the annoyance I'm attempting to cause.

You dictated the fate of the airfields. They were dirt strips surrounded by tents. That stuff doesn't simply get destroyed beyond use.
You expected to give you every last possible detail about the attacks. And have you ever considered that I don't have the time to determine casualties of every last attack?

[The U S S R]

Any further discussion of peace talks should be conducted in the peace thread...

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=325185&p=22945494#p22945494

[Assorted Sucrose-Based Lifeforms]

You dictated the fate of the airfields. They were dirt strips surrounded by tents. That stuff doesn't simply get destroyed beyond use.
You expected to give you every last possible detail about the attacks. And have you ever considered that I don't have the time to determine casualties of every last attack?

If you'd read the IC section of my post, you'd see that I fired the missiles, then waited for you to respond.
YOU were the one who posted that the 'dirt strips' had been hit, but that they could be repaired quickly.
I responded by saying that if they had been hit, they would still be out of action for a while whilst you filled the craters in and flattened the dirt out again, and that you probably wouldn't be able to operate fast jets from 'dirt strips' anyway.
I also said that tents alone would not support 22 000 troops.

Additionally, if I can post once when I mobilise my forces, and once when they arrive at the target to perform the action, then it gives people the chance to do something about it, and you can at least post that much too.
In fact, I post the source of my air patrols and scrambed interceptors each time, stating whether or not they came from my taskforce, my island bases, or my mainland, so that you at least have some idea of whether or not they will be operating within the vicinity of your land or whether they will be operating far out at sea.
And for the counter-carrier missile launch, I even made an intermediate post between the launch and arrival, describing the window of opportunity that your carriers would have to take down my missiles so that I was completely certain that you had not one, but two opportunities to counter the missiles.

As for determining the casualties, well yes, you should. Otherwise you're just ignoring an attack on your forces and refusing to call your own losses, which is yet again, another form of godmodding.
I'm not sure you've responded to a single one of my attacks besides the four Meteor cruise missiles launched at your runways.

[Burleson 2]

You dictated the fate of the airfields. They were dirt strips surrounded by tents. That stuff doesn't simply get destroyed beyond use.
You expected to give you every last possible detail about the attacks. And have you ever considered that I don't have the time to determine casualties of every last attack?

If you'd read the IC section of my post, you'd see that I fired the missiles, then waited for you to respond.
YOU were the one who posted that the 'dirt strips' had been hit, but that they could be repaired quickly.
I responded by saying that if they had been hit, they would still be out of action for a while whilst you filled the craters in and flattened the dirt out again, and that you probably wouldn't be able to operate fast jets from 'dirt strips' anyway.
I also said that tents alone would not support 22 000 troops.

Additionally, if I can post once when I mobilise my forces, and once when they arrive at the target to perform the action, then it gives people the chance to do something about it, and you can at least post that much too.
In fact, I post the source of my air patrols and scrambed interceptors each time, stating whether or not they came from my taskforce, my island bases, or my mainland.
And for the counter-carrier missile launch, I even made an intermediate post between the launch and arrival, describing the window of opportunity that your carriers would have to take down my missiles so that I was completely certain that you had not one, but two opportunities to counter the missiles.

Who said anything about launching fast jets from dirt strips? Do you know what an aircraft carrier is? If you don't like it, you can leave.

[Assorted Sucrose-Based Lifeforms]

Who said anything about launching fast jets from dirt strips? Do you know what an aircraft carrier is? If you don't like it, you can leave.

Lol@flamey
Yes, I know what an aircraft carrier is, you however seemed to have forgotten that yours exist between when you first mentioned the three of them and just now.
You'll note that the missiles were launched in response to you sending a lolhueg fighter/bomber formation to Serrian, under the assumption that the 'airfields', as you called them at the time, were more than just dirt strips.
This was before you retconned in that the island was only a month settled and that your 'airbases' were actually just 'dirt strips with tents'.
This will be a prime example of the value of stating where your fighters are flying out from, because if you had, then there wouldn't have been any fighters in the area for me to fire my LAAMs at, and I wouldn't have fired my Meteors at the 'dirt strips' which you had been describing as 'airbases'.

[Burleson 2]

Who said anything about launching fast jets from dirt strips? Do you know what an aircraft carrier is? If you don't like it, you can leave.

Lol@flamey
Yes, I know what an aircraft carrier is, you however seemed to have forgotten that yours exist between when you first mentioned the three of them and just now.
You'll note that the missiles were launched in response to you sending a lolhueg fighter/bomber formation to Serrian, under the assumption that the 'airfields', as you called them at the time, were more than just dirt strips.
This was before you retconned in that the island was only a month settled and that your 'airbases' were actually just 'dirt strips with tents'.
This will be a prime example of the value of stating where your fighters are flying out from, because if you had, then there wouldn't have been any fighters in the area for me to fire my LAAMs at, and I wouldn't have fired my Meteors at the 'dirt strips' which you had been describing as 'airbases'.

Get out.

[Glamour]

Who said anything about launching fast jets from dirt strips? Do you know what an aircraft carrier is? If you don't like it, you can leave.

OOC: You are supposed to be either at war, which you haven't been doing effectively, or negotiating, which you are only slightly better at doing. The result is that your nation is militarily weak and unable to compromise for a ceasefire to take permanent effect. You refuse to hold trial in two non WA nations who offered to host, because they disagree with you. Well, sorry, but most people do, and if you don't like it or can't handle it, then you shouldn't have made an RP thread that was so contentious. Telling people to leave the thread is pointless. I am guessing that unless something changes you will be totally annihilated. And unlike a lot of parties, I only want you to hold a trial and move on, not to be razed to the ground. It could be done very quickly. But not a trial with me hosting, because it would be impossible to orchestrate with you. You even fail to respond to a genuine theological argument complete with Bible quotes about how your view is totally not Christ like.

[Burleson 2]

Who said anything about launching fast jets from dirt strips? Do you know what an aircraft carrier is? If you don't like it, you can leave.

OOC: You are supposed to be either at war, which you haven't been doing effectively, or negotiating, which you are only slightly better at doing. The result is that your nation is militarily weak and unable to compromise for a ceasefire to take permanent effect. You refuse to hold trial in two non WA nations who offered to host, because they disagree with you. Well, sorry, but most people do, and if you don't like it or can't handle it, then you shouldn't have made an RP thread that was so contentious. Telling people to leave the thread is pointless. I am guessing that unless something changes you will be totally annihilated. And unlike a lot of parties, I only want you to hold a trial and move on, not to be razed to the ground. It could be done very quickly. But not a trial with me hosting, because it would be impossible to orchestrate with you. You even fail to respond to a genuine theological argument complete with Bible quotes about how your view is totally not Christ like.

Having a theological argument here could be called threadjacking, which would lead to nothing but the mods getting their panties in a twist. And no, i didn't refuse to hold the trial there because I disagree with them. I refused because they weren't neutral.

[Glamour]

Militarily Glamour was neutral but as has been stated we redact our offer so now you have no host country and the USSR has already told you that unless you find one you cannot hold a trial and in that instance this TEMPORARY ceasefire will collapse.

OOC: You are also the one who based the whole thing around theology, it was done IC to attempt to get you to change your stance before war erupted, but you ignored it and hey. War erupted. And you continue to ignore, and I guarantee you it will erupt again. You have to do the compromising because you are the one under international nuclear attack.

[Burleson 2]

Militarily Glamour was neutral but as has been stated we redact our offer so now you have no host country and the USSR has already told you that unless you find one you cannot hold a trial and in that instance this TEMPORARY ceasefire will collapse.

OOC: You are also the one who based the whole thing around theology, it was done IC to attempt to get you to change your stance before war erupted, but you ignored it and hey. War erupted. And you continue to ignore, and I guarantee you it will erupt again. You have to do the compromising because you are the one under international nuclear attack.

Heres a recap of what happened just in case you need one. A bunch of gays took over land, Burleson launched a military operation to eliminate the terrorists and liberate the territory, a bunch of other nations caused a world war over an unrelated issue.

[The New Sea Territory]

Outside the Cash Federal Prison

Four NSTAI-affiliated anarchists quickly snuck through the bushes surrounding the prison. One carried a package, which contained a large, homemade explosive. He and one other bolted out of the bush, running towards the wall when the guards weren't looking. The other two waited there, armed.

The two reached the wall and immediately began to arm the bomb. Once the timer had been set, the looked up and waited for the guard to turn around again, and ran back to the bush. Their two comrades then fired at the guards, and a few seconds later, the large explosive detonated. (The execution of the prisoners would start in 15 min, correct)?

[The New Sea Territory]

Militarily Glamour was neutral but as has been stated we redact our offer so now you have no host country and the USSR has already told you that unless you find one you cannot hold a trial and in that instance this TEMPORARY ceasefire will collapse.

OOC: You are also the one who based the whole thing around theology, it was done IC to attempt to get you to change your stance before war erupted, but you ignored it and hey. War erupted. And you continue to ignore, and I guarantee you it will erupt again. You have to do the compromising because you are the one under international nuclear attack.

Heres a recap of what happened just in case you need one. A bunch of gays took over land, Burleson launched a military operation to eliminate the terrorists and liberate the territory, a bunch of other nations caused a world war over an unrelated issue.

Yes, you started the war. You criminalized homosexuality to begin with, making this an issue.

[Glamour]

Militarily Glamour was neutral but as has been stated we redact our offer so now you have no host country and the USSR has already told you that unless you find one you cannot hold a trial and in that instance this TEMPORARY ceasefire will collapse.

OOC: You are also the one who based the whole thing around theology, it was done IC to attempt to get you to change your stance before war erupted, but you ignored it and hey. War erupted. And you continue to ignore, and I guarantee you it will erupt again. You have to do the compromising because you are the one under international nuclear attack.

Heres a recap of what happened just in case you need one. A bunch of gays took over land, Burleson launched a military operation to eliminate the terrorists and liberate the territory, a bunch of other nations caused a world war over an unrelated issue.

But the Sexual Morality Act of 2014 is not unrelated to the DGLF, it is the reason they exist and the punishment of them by death is why they use violent means of protest. Glamour should be heeded regarding this given her completely pacifistic society, the happiness of her citizens, and so on meaning that nothing like this would ever be passed, there would never be any retaliation and thus no war. It is Burleson's fault.

[Burleson 2]

Outside the Cash Federal Prison

Four NSTAI-affiliated anarchists quickly snuck through the bushes surrounding the prison. One carried a package, which contained a large, homemade explosive. He and one other bolted out of the bush, running towards the wall when the guards weren't looking. The other two waited there, armed.

The two reached the wall and immediately began to arm the bomb. Once the timer had been set, the looked up and waited for the guard to turn around again, and ran back to the bush. Their two comrades then fired at the guards, and a few seconds later, the large explosive detonated. (The execution of the prisoners would start in 15 min, correct)?

The execution o the prisoners was scheduled for 3 minutes ago but has been delayed for another 24 hours. Also, the Cash Federal prison has been decommissioned for 6 years. Do you really think that we would reveal the location of such a high value target?

[Burleson 2]

Heres a recap of what happened just in case you need one. A bunch of gays took over land, Burleson launched a military operation to eliminate the terrorists and liberate the territory, a bunch of other nations caused a world war over an unrelated issue.

Yes, you started the war. You criminalized homosexuality to begin with, making this an issue.

War is not a reasonable response to such a petty issue. We don't go to war with nations that ban guns, beer, or NASCAR.

[The New Sea Territory]

Outside the Cash Federal Prison

Four NSTAI-affiliated anarchists quickly snuck through the bushes surrounding the prison. One carried a package, which contained a large, homemade explosive. He and one other bolted out of the bush, running towards the wall when the guards weren't looking. The other two waited there, armed.

The two reached the wall and immediately began to arm the bomb. Once the timer had been set, the looked up and waited for the guard to turn around again, and ran back to the bush. Their two comrades then fired at the guards, and a few seconds later, the large explosive detonated. (The execution of the prisoners would start in 15 min, correct)?

The execution o the prisoners was scheduled for 3 minutes ago but has been delayed for another 24 hours. Also, the Cash Federal prison has been decommissioned for 6 years. Do you really think that we would reveal the location of such a high value target?

What the fuck? You just said a few posts ago that's where they were held. Two pages doesn't equal six years.

[The New Sea Territory]

Yes, you started the war. You criminalized homosexuality to begin with, making this an issue.

War is not a reasonable response to such a petty issue. We don't go to war with nations that ban guns, beer, or NASCAR.

This isn't a petty issue, and we do go to war with nations that ban guns, beer and NASCAR...along with all other statist entities.

[Assorted Sucrose-Based Lifeforms]

It's the final post now, doodle-doo-doo, doodle-do-do-do . . .

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FROM: The Reigning Monarch of The Eternal Empire of Assorted Sucrose-Based Lifeforms
TO: Serrian& Glamour
ENCRYPTION: Heavy

It is with great reluctance that I must end the SBAF participation in a war declared on me by Burleson 2, and return my forces from Magnolian waters. It seems that with some people, it is just not worth the effort of trying to RP fairly, as they will decline to reciprocate the favour, and become enraged when called out for it. However, this need not be such a sad occasion; for you see, since the first threat of WMD usage against my people, my civilians, the Oracle satellites of my Orbital Branch have been observing various goings on within Burleson 2. Over the past eventful days, we have tracked the Burlesonian president slinking to their lair in Fox Hill County, we have monitored the Burlesonian powerplants responsible for enriching the materials required for their nuclear weapons, and we have observed the remaining Burlesonian WMDs being prepared for both launch and storage as the situation changed. Taranis-class satellites have been moved into position, ready to strike through the president's hardened bunker as well as at least two of the WMD locations, however, we never saw fit to order them to fire, as Burleson 2 never really made any direct hostile actions against us, choosing instead to threaten and berate us. Though now that we must depart from this conflict, we feel that it is only fair to reveal the co-ordinates of each of the aforementioned targets to you, our allies, to do with as you wish. Oh, and as a parting gift, we've given you the launch controls for the 3 Taranis satellites in position, as well as some of our MAPCIS ICBMs. You may argue amongst yourselves for whoever gets the Taranis controls, however, you each get control of 10 MAPCIS ICBMs. And by the way, each of those ICBMs has 14 individually-targetable warheads, so have fun.

Signed: